Busy ramp...your thoughts?

[Guest hydrillagorilla]

The most chapping part about P.W.C. users are they have not paid their dues...what I mean by that is they have not paid for what they are using....... As sportsmen we pay millions maybe billions of dollars to state agencies through various means.

[mac7373]

sykofish

mac7373, sounds like you used to fish Hagg lake. That place is a zoo most times.

I have fished Haag Lake a few times when I lived in Forrest Grove for two years and when I lived in Beaverton for 8 months.  Caught some nice smallmouth out of there.  If I am not mistaken I think the state record smallmouth was caught there the year before I moved up there or the year I moved there...I think 2000 or 2001?  I lived up there while my wife was a grad student at Pacific University from 2001-2004.  Yep...It was a mad house most of the time.  I was actually referring to Cooper Creek Reservoir down in Douglas County though. I used to live close enough to Cooper Creek that I could here the boats and jet skies like they were in my back yard sometimes.

Fished the Columbia a couple times too but I was in way over my head fishing that river without someone who new it really well.  Fished a tournament in the Columbia with a guy who grew up there, and we...or rather I did allot better that time.  Great smallmouth water.

Also fished Tenmile Lakes a few times...placed 2nd in the 2000 Bassin' for Bucks there and won big fish as well.  Fished Siltcoos, Tahkenitch, Dorena (day and night tournaments), Loon Lake (another madhouse at the ramps), and fished a couple of tournaments at Shasta in north Cali.  Being from Oklahoma, fishing up there was a lot different and a trial and error kinda deal for a while...but I made some good friends and learned some great lessons that helped diversify my fishing approach.

I saw from your profile you live in Warren, that's Derek Anderson country (Scappoose), you must be a Beaver?...I don't know if you get down south much but if your ever down by Azalea in Douglas County give Galesville Reservoir a try if you haven't already.  There are some monster largemouth in there...they have been predicting for the last five years that the next state record would come from there...nobody can seem to land her though.  I watched some (several) fish on the beds there back in 2001 and again in 2003 that were easily heavy 11's or light 12's.  I left them alone though...I won't mess with bedding fish unless there is money at stake.  

Anyway...nice talkin at ya.  Later.  

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

unfortunately, I own 3 boats and 2 jetski's. Sorry I don't qualify to be treated like a human being. I treat others like I wish to be treated and I am very quick on the ramp. I've spent plenty of time helping and educating folks on the ramps also.

The fact that I also enjoy P.W.C. shouldn't make me a target for unsolicited violence.

I also fish. SO what now?? Do we just armwrestle? Treat people on an individual basis. If I approach the ramp next weekend at 60 in my Ranger, should the guy I swamp beat the ***** out of the next guy that comes along with a bass boat??

[Bassin101]

As in anything else, its usually 20% of the people that cause 80% of the problems.

Cheers,

GO SUN DEVILS!!!!!!!

[mac7373]

You know I made the comment earlier that I thought recreational boaters and jet skiers were more likely to be slow on the ramp than most of the bass fisherman I have seen or know and then I thought that was too of a generalized comment...but now that I think about it more, there might actually be some truth to that.  I think it might have something to do with the fact that...I would assume that there is a huge alcohol consumption difference in your different types of boaters?  I can't remember, if it's ever happened that I have ever drank alcohol while bass fishing on a public lake.  But...I sure have drank my fair share of bear and whatnot while skiing or out on the jet ski though.  You know it actually could play a part in the whole thing.  

[squid]

I have seen lots of slow ppl unload and load their boats....my favorite time was when we were in line to unload and this older cpl was ahead of us.  When it got to their turn, he put her in the boat, dropped it in the water, left his truck right there, went to start the boat, took a long time to get it started.  Left the boat in the launch side and went to park his truck.  Didn't even move it out of the way so others could unload.  Well he didn't even move the boat when it stalled out, so we had to wait for him to again get the motor started.  We must have had 15 boats lined up and ready by the time they went on their way to enjoy the water and the rays.  We were all just laughing out of disbelief of what just happend for over 30 minutes.  What made it even more humorous was that just about all of us asked to help and he turned us all down.  Must have been in their late 70's early 80's...cute cpl though...lol

Just remember to try and keep it on the lighter side depending on the situation....lol ;D

[Bassin101]

Mac I'm sure that does have an affect.

In Arizona you only need to be 12 yr old to drive a PWC.  That probably contributes as well.

I just want them to be careful so they do not get hurt or hurt someone else.  And its easy to get hurt around the docks and landings. 8)

GO DEVILS!!!!

[Guest hydrillagorilla]

Good point Low Budget-

Lets thumb wrestle

[Hot n Tot]

You guys should be at some of our local lakes during the spring crappie spawn.  This past spring I witnessed a guy back his trailer into another guy's boat.  The ramp was pretty full and the guy had left his boat sitting on the ramp while he went to park his truck.  There isn't anywhere to pull your boat over to the side at this ramp, but the ramp is wide enough to launch 6 boats at one time so this is a common practice there.  While this guy was parking his truck, the other guy came flying back down the ramp and ran all over the his boat.  He had to see the other guys boat because lights on the front and rear of the boat were turned on.  We could clearly see it from where we were sitting.  He got out to see what he had hit then got back in his truck and left the ramp.  He probably went to launch at another ramp that's close by so he wouldn't have to answer for his actions.  The boat owner returned to find the side of his boat dented in.  We told him what had happened, but the guy who did it was long gone.  It was before daylight, and we were sitting in our boat a good ways from the ramp waiting for first light so we couldn't get the guys tag number.  All of this happened because some guy was probably worried someone might get to his fishing hole before him.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

Just a point

* I have never consumed alchohol and operated my jetskis.  Nor has anyone I've ever let ride one

* more than 1 of my fishing partners drink regularly while bass fishing although I sustain, I do indulge in the occasional bone.(yea, sue me)

*All this said, I also can load both skis just as quickly as it takes to load my 21'.  There is a system to unloading/loading ANY vehicle.   Having a system for your personal task and executing it are far more important in my opinion than the actual type of craft being moved.  A guy w/ a kayak on his roof can be more of a hassle than a bass boat if hes an absolute moron, and vise versa.

[gc]

My brother told me a funny story. Near his house by the lake (in New Zealand) there's a small ramp. One day he went down there and someone had launched their boat and just left their car and trailer right there, figuring, I guess, that was the most convenient car park right there. Everyone else had to just drive around the lake to the other boat ramp. Now thats inconsiderate, or probably just plain dumb. Maybe he got towed in the end, don't know.

[Landis76]

Kind of a funny story related:

I was fishing by myself the other day and when I pulled up to the dock, there were about 4 "privileged" college kids getting read to load their fairly new and very nice ski/wakeboard Tige boat on the trailer. One of the guys noticed I was by myself and tying up and he was nice enough to ask if I need help. I politely said, "Neh, I do this all the time." He seemed shocked and said that he wouldn't be able to do that himself as I walked off to grab the pick-up. Long story short, I was loaded and pulling away to drive home before those 4 guys even got their boat on the trailer.

I also pride myself in my launch and load times. Not many faster than me.

[abelfisher]

Hey Alandis, are you married yet?

[Landis76]

September 4th man.

And to tie this in to the subject, she is awesome in backing a trailer. She's used to pulling a 30ft goose neck horse trailer.

[sykofish]

[quote author=mac7373

I saw from your profile you live in Warren, that's Derek Anderson country (Scappoose), you must be a Beaver?

[mac7373]

Low_Budget_Hookers

I totally agree with you.  But you know how some people get when they start drinking...they like to stand around and run their lip, show off and make sure that everyone had the opportunity to see them act a fool.  I was always told beer and stuff was "liquid courage"...but I think it has evolved to become "instant ego".  You get guys up on the boat ramp with chicks in the boat with them and they've got their ego and their buzz going...they have to make sure everyone sees them.  Then on the other hand...like you or someone said earlier, "some people just don't know any better".

sykofish

My wife and I both graduated from U of O, but we have no loyalty to the school as far as being a supporter of the Ducks.  Its obvious where my loyalties lye by looking at my posts. I was born and raised to love OU, circumstances just didn't work in my favor to where I could go there instead.  Had Duck's season tickets though and when I wasn't watching on TV or flying down here to Oklahoma to see a game I was at the Ducks games.  Went to all the Civil War games from 99'-04', those are flat out crazy.  People in other parts of the country don't realize what a heated and competitive rivalry it is.  My wife has kind of a weird college background...she was a Pre-Veterinary Medicine Major at Oregon State for two years, then transferred to U of O and Majored in Human Physiology/Exercise and Movement Science.  I didn't meet many while I was there who had attended both schools like that. But she is a die-hard Sooner fan.    Just incase you might ask yourself how this okie ended up out there.  My wife was born and raised in Roseburg. After we both got out of the Army, I got out in 97'and she got out in 99'. We decided to go out there so she could be close to her family for a while.  Oh well...later.