Stickling Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 I hear alot about using pork rind trailers. WHat exactly is pork rind? a scent on a trailer or actual pig made into trailers? ??? How effective are they Quote
thewayweball02 Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 They are jig trailers made from actual pork. The pork has a better action than plastic in cold water. A Jig & Pig is said to be one of the best baits for big bass. Hope this helps Quote
Stickling Posted January 2, 2005 Author Posted January 2, 2005 oh, thanks. that explains alot. What are some companys taht make these? Quote
thewayweball02 Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 The only one that I'm aware of is Uncle Josh, I'm sure there are other companies though. Bass PRo Shops carry them if you wanna take a look. www.basspro.com Quote
D.Taylor Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Super Pork is the only way to fly www.superpork.com Quote
Mike H. Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 https://bassresource.com/cgi-bin/bass_fish/YaBB.pl?board=bass_equip;action=display;num=1103049049 A post I made about the exact same thing Some good info in it! Though I could use some more info on how to keep it from drying out once I get some... : Quote
D.Taylor Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Mike we used to use a product called a Pork Saver or Pig Saver. It is a soft case, that Velcros over your bait and rod with a sponge padding inside. Just Put your pig saver in the water get it good and wet. Then take and hook your jig to your rod. Now wrap the Pig Saver around the rod and jig. This product should keep your pork wet the rest of the day. When you are done fishing remove the pork and throw it back in the jar. Quote
SENKOSAM Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Concerning taste or scent, Dr. Jones, a phd fish biologist working at Berkley, maintains that fish cannot taste or smell oil or fat. Water soluble scents and protein based solutions are the only substances bass can detect. If that is the case, bass might only hold on to pork for the same reason they hold soft plastics longer - softness. Some anglers believe that salt is also an attractant, but bass aren't deer and don't have the brain power to expect salt in their usual forage, the same way they don't expect earthworms to swim. Plastic trailers have been as popular as pork for warm season jigging and account for many a big bass taken on a jig & trailer. Uncle Josh has been around years and is sold just about everywhere fishing tackle is sold, but it's a pain to use and unusable when it dries out. Given the supersoftness and texture of salted plastics, it seems plastics will dominate from here on as jig and spinnerbait trailers. The new Bass Pro catalog has some new designs that offer a different profile to a jig and in smaller sizes than those usually attached. Small jigs and trailers for pressured water, seem to be growing in poularity across the country, though I still throw a 1/2 oz. jig with large chunk plastic or a #1 black pork frog, much of the time. Sam Quote
Chris Posted January 2, 2005 Posted January 2, 2005 Concerning taste or scent, Dr. Jones, a phd fish biologist working at Berkley, maintains that fish cannot taste or smell oil or fat. Water soluble scents and protein based solutions are the only substances bass can detect. Define Protein? From what I recall Protein comes from meat. Pork chunks make up fat, skin and meat. Fish view salt in the same way as blood and reaffirms that the offering is real when taken into the fish's mouth. I would agree that fish cannot smell oil or fat but fish can see something oily and is viewed as a slime coat and baitfish have a natural discharge that is similar to fat dispersing in the water. Quote
SENKOSAM Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 The spin about fish being attracted to and liking the taste of salt (blood origin or otherwise), began with Gene Larew adding it to hot plastic, patenting the process and advertising the myth. Anymore, the only thing salt is good for is adding weight to soft plastics, like Senkos. Attractants and flavor are hotly contested subjects and one of personal belief. Many posts on many message boards have gone back and forth without resolution, the same as for matching-the-hatch. It's only an opinion, but I think pork (or any trailer) adds something to a lure's profile and action. The soft materials of skirt and trailer, cause a bass's mouth to clench for a longer period. I would like to believe that a bass can taste the difference between a once-living trailer and a piece of plastic, but a majority of anglers have switched to plastic, indicating it's success. Sam Quote
Nick Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 Pork works! I really like the Super Pork brand. Uncle Josh stuff in inconsistent. Many pieces of it are just too thick to have much movement. Talk about scents and proteins forever, but pork gets the job done in cold (sub 55 degree waters) better than plastic for me. Every bass I catch with pork rind has that satisfied look of a pig fed bass! Quote
Mike H. Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 Where can I buy Super Pork? I've visited their website, and see the "mail order's welcome", but no price? Mike Quote
Nick_Barr Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 Strike king has some only place you can get em is at strikeking.com Quote
Chris Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 My fish tend to smile after they had a mouth full of pork and they lick their lips after they nail one of my plastic trailers too. ;D I think everyone uses what they like and most will stand by their choice and some will fight tooth and nail just because they feel so strongly about what they use. I think it just boils down to what works for you. Dang i miss fishing ;D Quote
SENKOSAM Posted January 3, 2005 Posted January 3, 2005 Quote I think it just boils down to what works for you. You got that right! 3/4 of the fun of fishing is believing in something, the rest is just plain common sense like keeping the hook sharp, using good line and a proper drag setting. Who really knows what a bass is tuned in to perceive? Science has whittled it down a little and dispelled some myths but not others. It can never explain why fish will bite one lure for hours, better than any other, and then turn off to it forever. It can't explain why crappie turn away from craw scent, but not anise. It hasn't explained why a bass's markings are sharp in clear water, but pale and silvery in pea soup. Maybe salt is a universal taste for all animals with brains and forage animals do exude trails such as urine and hormone releases. In any case, it's a grand ol' mystery that has us all wishing and waiting for more. (unless I get out on the ice. ) Sam Quote
Stickling Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 are pork trailers good for swimming jig? Quote
SENKOSAM Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Quote are pork trailers good for swimming jig? Stickling, you betcha! When I first started using the J & P, I wasn't convinced that something so ugly and unrealistic could catch a bass. One day (at midday), I decided to give one a try. I cast a black and blue jig with #11 black pork frog, into about 3' and let it sit on bottom. I hadn't gotten a hit on it in 2 hours and started casting a grub with another rod. Having forgotten about the jig, I started moving the boat with the trolling motor and heard the rod behind me being pulled overboard. Crap! must be snagged on a rock, except the rock began to move sideways!! A small bass would not let go! That was my initiation to jig and pork and I caught 5 more bass that day on the same bait. One thing I noticed on closer look, was that when I swam the bait, the delta shaped tails fluttered super fast, finesse-like, and the skirt did the same with rod twitches. I figured that the action might be good for tree stumps and vertical cover in shallow water, worked as fast as you would a jig and grub or spinnerbait. Ambush time, big time!! Considering the fact that a spinnerbait is nothing more than a jig with and overhead blade, I figured, "why not add a pork chunk on the back of a spinnerbait and run it in the same areas and in the pads". An all-white rig using a #11 or #1 frog, caught my largest bass for the next few years when used in the fall and late spring. (I used a #4 or #5 willow leaf blade to get a maximum visual.) I also followed Bill Dance's advice and cut 1/4 of the fat off the chunk. For the fluttering action, the chunk must be rigged in the down position and the skirt should not extend more than 1/4" past the hook bend; trailer hooks may be used to insure a hook-up. Sam Quote
Naturalselector Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Senko great detail, I cant wait to give it a try. I've been reading about the jig and pig for a while now. Quote
Stickling Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 i wanna try one. I heard the yare mighty deadly. but i dont have much experiance in jigs or spinnerbaits. wut time of year do you use a jig n pig trying to swim it? Quote
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