Super User T-rig Posted November 29, 2008 Super User Posted November 29, 2008 A guy is selling this swimbait but doesn't know what brand it is. Anyone know this bait? Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted November 29, 2008 Super User Posted November 29, 2008 Chinese Knockoff Crap-Hudd Quote
LooksLikeSinbad Posted November 29, 2008 Posted November 29, 2008 4Bizz - Can you inform the guys how you can identify a cheap knock off? It might help save some forum members from wasting their money. Quote
Super User Micro Posted November 29, 2008 Super User Posted November 29, 2008 Isn't it obvious? Quote
VolFan Posted November 29, 2008 Posted November 29, 2008 Now that's funny, I don't care who you are... ;D ;D Quote
Stringjam Posted November 29, 2008 Posted November 29, 2008 A triple split ring? Can't say I've seen that before.. :-? Quote
Mattlures Posted November 30, 2008 Posted November 30, 2008 That mold was the original bass harraser by reaction stike. They had those baits at Icast a few years ago. Ken Chaumant from Stanley jigs saw the bait and told them they were violating his patent. so Reaction strike changed the tail to thier current bait. The factories in China retain ownership of the molds even though the customers designed them. Sooo that particular mold is still in the same factory in China and now the factory has found a new customer to sell those baits. The bait itself was never weighted properly. It is extremley heavy for its size. It sinks WAY to fast and would likely get snagged very easily. I feel that even at a very low price the bait is a bad buy. However if you literaly wanted a bait to fish at 50+ ft then this bait could be usefull. I dont like the colors but I am not sure how much color maters at that depth. SOOOOOO ther is the history of the bait and basicaly the long version of what Fourbizz said Quote
Super User T-rig Posted November 30, 2008 Author Super User Posted November 30, 2008 Thanks Matt! Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted December 1, 2008 Super User Posted December 1, 2008 So what makes the Chinese baits so ineffective..I don't fish swimbaits, not much need for them where I am from but was just wondering. Quote
Mattlures Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 Chinese baits are not bad because they are made in China. They are usualy bad because they are bought or producded for companies over here in the states who have little idea how to properly design and test baits. Most of the baits produced in China are knock offs of baits made here. Joe blow will take a bait that is hot and send it to China to be copied. The Chinese do a good job copying but without properly understanding the dynamics of the bait, They almost always fall short. Joe blow doesnt understand the dynamics either(if he did he could design his own bait) so he is happy with "his" product becuase it looks close enough and the unknowing public is buying them because they are trying to save a buck. In the end the customer looses becuase the bait does not perform like the original. Now the bait in question? Why does it suck compared to a real Hudd? Wellllllll first like I said its WAY too heavy. Second the colors are not natural. Third the plastic is to hard so the bait doesnt swim as good. The eyes dont look as good. The detail is not as good but its close. It boils down to this. You could buy 3 or 4 of these baits and get a bait that has very few aplications were it could actulay catch fish and chances are you would NEVER get bit OR you could buy 1 Hudd and get a bait that is balanced properly, has a nice natural action, realistic eyes, and is a proven fish catcher. In the end the original is a MUCH better value. Quote
Super User T-rig Posted December 1, 2008 Author Super User Posted December 1, 2008 I don't fish swimbaits, not much need for them where I am from but was just wondering. There always is a need to fish swimbaits. Bass don't get bigger then 8lbs. around here and they are very rare. Even 2-3lb. fish will hit 8" swimbaits. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 1, 2008 Super User Posted December 1, 2008 I have yet to see any lure from China worth a dam? Man can they ever knock off anything made though! Allen Quote
Super User T-rig Posted December 1, 2008 Author Super User Posted December 1, 2008 I have yet to see any lure from China worth a dam? Where do you think River2Sea lures are made? Quote
Mattlures Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 A ton of baits are made in China. Most fishing gear is made there. Baits, rods reels, line, etc. It doesnt have to say "Made in China" on it. That is just to get it through customs. If your products are packaged later in the USA then they dont say China on them. Some companies will order unpainted baits and paint them here and then package them. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted December 2, 2008 Super User Posted December 2, 2008 I have yet to see any lure from China worth a dam? Where do you think River2Sea lures are made? And with the exception of the Bottom Walker, THEY SUCK!!! LOL I attribute the Bottom Walker to a blind pig finding an acorn once in awhile ;D Quote
Super User T-rig Posted December 2, 2008 Author Super User Posted December 2, 2008 A ton of baits are made in China. That's true, even Spro baits are made in China. Quote
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