Marten's dead fish

[Dockhead]

Anyone know what happened with Aaron Marten's in that first post season tourney?

I believe he had 4 dead at weigh-in, but I never heard if they knew why. He was putting ice in the well first thing in the a.m., right after he caught his first fish. I thought he said something about the ice, something to the effect of he should not have put ice in the well.

I always thought bagged ice like that was detrimental, but can't remember why. Something chemical wise in the ice I think was what I heard.

I take frozen bottles of water myself. Don't know how much it helps, but it isn't too much trouble to throw them in the well once in awhile so what the hey. I just make sure to take them out when I run so they don't beat up the fish.

Anyway, just wondering what was up.

[SoFlaBassAddict]

His livewell stopped working from what I remember.  I don't think he could get the water circulating or anything.  Really stunk for him.

[bmadd]

I think I heard that he put too much ice in his wells. His well temperature was about 20 degrees cooler than the lake level and that shocked the fish.

[Chris W]

I think I heard that he put too much ice in his wells. His well temperature was about 20 degrees cooler than the lake level and that shocked the fish.

That and he never put fresh water in the livewells, even after adding the ice you have to change the water out every 3 or 4 hours and add more ice.

[gar-tracker]

Also bagged ice can have trace amounts of chlorine.

I freeze 2 gallon milk jugs filled with water solid, one for each well. I have pretty good luck in the Florida heat during the summer this way.

[Matt Fly]

Most pros use an addititive in their livewells, those addititives have chemicals that remove the chrolrine from tap water naturally.

     Check our Sure Life products and read whats out there, the pros know, thats for sure.

[bmadd]

I think I heard that he put too much ice in his wells. His well temperature was about 20 degrees cooler than the lake level and that shocked the fish.

That and he never put fresh water in the livewells, even after adding the ice you have to change the water out every 3 or 4 hours and add more ice.

Not with additives and a good recirculator

[zero]

martens just got PWNED

[Gatorbassman]

I think I heard that he put too much ice in his wells. His well temperature was about 20 degrees cooler than the lake level and that shocked the fish.

That and he never put fresh water in the livewells, even after adding the ice you have to change the water out every 3 or 4 hours and add more ice.

I give several seminars every year on how to keep fish alive in your livewell. Especially during the Summer months.

First of all never fill your livewell near the boat ramp or launch site. Wait till you get to your first stop. Then fill it up, treat it, and get it cooled down to below 75 degrees. Then maintain that cool. (I have a 54qt cooler that I fill with ice before a summer tournament. It takes up alot of space but my fish are alive at the end of the day.) If you've ever been diving in the summer time you will notice that the deeper you go the cooler the water gets. If you catch a fish as shallow as 12 feet and put it in livewell water that is the temperature of the water comes through your intake you will shock the fish and cause excessive stress.

I always recommend you use Sure Life Labs' Catch and Release formula along with enough ice to keep your water temp below 70 degrees and aerate the water, at most you should only have to change the water out once during the day. Catch and Release is full of beneficial additives that result in a fish that will live well after it is released.

I just wish boat companies would start insulating their livewells.

All treatment chemicals are not the same. If you use Rejuvenade you run the risk of over stressing your fish.... Ever notice how many fish are up-side-down in the weigh-in tank at FLW weigh-ins. They will tell you it's because those fish were caught deep but that's not the truth. Those fish are on there way to the end of their life. Rejuvenade has chemicals in it that cause the fish to be excited. People think that's a sign that the fish are alive and healthy, but the truth is that the fish isn't excited... it's stressed. You can tell this by lifting a gill plate and examining the color of the gills. A healthy fish will have bright red gills and an over stressed fish will have pale pink gills. Every fish that I've ever seen come out of Rejuvenade water has had pink gills. The fish may not die at the weigh-in but it will die in the next day or two after release.

I wish all Tournament anglers, pros included, would open their minds as I have and educate themselves on the right way to treat the fish that they are taking to weigh-in.

[Mike 12345]

martens just got PWNED

untrue.

Martens had some excellent limits, but had fish care problems.

[burleytog]

Also bagged ice can have trace amounts of chlorine.

Any 'trace' amount of free chlorine present in ice would be oxidized fairly quickly by organic material present in the lake water.

I haven't used ice in the livewell in my last three tournaments.  Other than one gut-hooked fishing dying (was dead when I put him in the well), all fish have done very well.  I had one spend about 8 hours in the well on Saturday.  Lake surface temp was 82-84*, every fish was as lively at the end of the day as when I put them in.  The water is just so hot right now there's no way I can carry enough ice to keep the livewell cooled.

I haven't seen the entire show detailing Martens' problems, but the portion that I have watched showed him catching a fish and dumping an entire bag of ice on top of it.  That's just too much ice.  Take any cold blooded animal and instantly change their body temperature by that much and there's a good chance you're going to kill them. 

[Dockhead]

martens just got PWNED

What does PWNED mean?

[SPEEDBEAD.]

martens just got PWNED

What does PWNED mean?

Owned.

It's dumb, trust me.   ;D

[pudmunk]

He probably gave the fish too many high fives and it OFF'd itself

[pantherdev]

Is this forum becoming an extension of the immaturity of facebook "kids"?  "PWNED" and "OFFed".  Speak English so I know and understand what I am reading.  I am too old to start learning a new language. :-/. 

[Grey Wolf]

Is this forum becoming an extension of the immaturity of facebook "kids"? "PWNED" and "OFFed". Speak English so I know and understand what I am reading. I am too old to start learning a new language. :-/.

Got a few young ones here that escaped from the "Peanut Gallery."

You do remember the peanut gallery don't you ?

[pantherdev]

I think so???  Loved it back then, but so much wiser now.

[farmpond1]

martens just got PWNED

What does PWNED mean?

Owned.

What does "Owned" mean?

[WanderLust]

martens just got PWNED

What does PWNED mean?

Owned.

What does "Owned" mean?

http://www.*/define.php?term=owned

Indeed I am older however given my nephews it was necessary to learn some new terms especially when kicking their tail at Madden or other console game.

[GLADES]

For extra piece of mind, I keep 2 battery operated live well aerators with fresh batteries in my storage box.

They are cheap, and good insurance.

[CPT Scrap]

If I may interject, I know this was a few posts ago, but I use rejuvenade for all my tournaments. Once caught, I'll check on my fish every 2 hours or so. When I get ready to weigh them, I will give them a once over, and most of the time, their gill plates are bright red. There are one or two incidents a year where they have the pink gill plates, but that is usually because they were hooked deep. Keep in mind my experiences are limited to the Kansas-Texas area and east towards Kentucky.

I haven't done the background check on the products to compare chemicals, but it seems that what it really boils down to is companies saying they have the better brand. I don't mean to offend anyone who works for these companies, I know there are quite a few guys from the industry on here. This is just my two cents. If someone does have the comparisons of chemicals for the big name live well additives, I would enjoy reviewing it. Just send a pm., or point me to the right thread. Thanks, and tight lines!

[SeanW]

Martens live wells quit working. Here in California we have 6 hr tournaments in the summer, from june 15th to sept 15th. Its greatly reduced fish care problems as we are off the water by 1pm. Kinda sucks from an angler stand point, but its better for the fish

I use Catch and Release. That said Id hope that if Rejuvinade was harmful it would not be on the market. Its in my partners boat and Ive never seen our fish with pink gills.