Tournaments during the spawn

[Glenn]

Ok, so take a deep breath, relax,  and listen to me this time....

The study you read does indeed confirm taking ONE bass off a bed pretty means means the end of those eggs.  That's it.  There's nothing in your article that says anything about it harming the fishery overall - not even in mass quantities. 

That said, many anglers taking fish off beds still isn't enough to overcome nature.  If that were the case, than most bass lakes with heavy tournament pressure would have been depleted years ago. Fact is, they'd need to take out thousands of beds - thousands every week - in order to do any harm.  Truth is, there's a heck of a lot more beds and spawning areas than most anglers realize.

Your assumptions have no basis, other than your own hypothesis...a guess...based upon what you believe to be a logical assumption.  Unfortunately, it's simply not true.  But it does point out that you need to read up on a lot more information about fishery management to fully understand what I'm saying.

Please, please, please, stop jumping to conclusions that a whole fishery will be harmed based upon your one article and your unproven guesses.  Or, shall I say, your guesses have already been proven invalid by previous studies.

I'm so glad biologists make the regulations, rather than laymen.  They focus on facts, not assumptions.

And let's make this really clear, in this instance, I'm not stating my opion. I'm stating fact.  So it's pointless to argue with me.  Bone up on your reading if you don't believe me.  I fact, I encourage it.  The more myths that are debunked, the better off all anglers will be.

Here's a start:  http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/about.html#fish

btw - I'm done here.  If you still refuse to believe me, please do more research.  I can't fight emotions with facts.  That's why you can't argue with members of PETA. 

[Jacob Robinson]

There are plenty of tournaments during the post spawn. I have tournaments up until October! I only have 2 during the spawn!

[SkeetyCCTX]

Ok, so take a deep breath, relax, and listen to me this time....

The study you read does indeed confirm taking ONE bass off a bed pretty means means the end of those eggs. That's it. There's nothing in your article that says anything about it harming the fishery overall - not even in mass quantities.

That said, many anglers taking fish off beds still isn't enough to overcome nature. If that were the case, than most bass lakes with heavy tournament pressure would have been depleted years ago. Fact is, they'd need to take out thousands of beds - thousands every week - in order to do any harm. Truth is, there's a heck of a lot more beds and spawning areas than most anglers realize.

Your assumptions have no basis, other than your own hypothesis...a guess...based upon what you believe to be a logical assumption. Unfortunately, it's simply not true. But it does point out that you need to read up on a lot more information about fishery management to fully understand what I'm saying.

Please, please, please, stop jumping to conclusions that a whole fishery will be harmed based upon your one article and your unproven guesses. Or, shall I say, your guesses have already been proven invalid by previous studies.

I'm so glad biologists make the regulations, rather than laymen. They focus on facts, not assumptions.

And let's make this really clear, in this instance, I'm not stating my opion. I'm stating fact. So it's pointless to argue with me. Bone up on your reading if you don't believe me. I fact, I encourage it. The more myths that are debunked, the better off all anglers will be.

Here's a start: http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/about.html#fish

btw - I'm done here. If you still refuse to believe me, please do more research. I can't fight emotions with facts. That's why you can't argue with members of PETA.

Wow!!   I think that you are the one that is getting a little carried away here.  You are completly distorting my words and you have taken my statements way out of context!

Please relax and let me clarify myself as you have misunderstood me by a mile!

First off, I clearly stated that I LOVE FISHING DURING THE SPAWN, and this includes bed fishing.  It is a blast!  In no way would I ever stop fishing during this time, and in no way would I advocate any such notion for the general public.

2nd, in no way do I think that fishing during the spawn, or bed fishing; is completely devastating to lakes or bass as a species.  The point that i was trying to make is that THERE IS AN EFFECT!  I dont need to point to studies, charts, or other references cause its just common sense.  If a bed is left unprotected it is subject to predation.  And, if "WE" are the reason that the bed is left unprotected than you can not count on nature to make up for this.  We have to take that responsibility.

Thats all Im stating!  Im not against it, I dont discourage it, I dont think it is the root of all evil!  Im just saying that it does have consequences, however small or big! 

I just think that we need to be responsible while we interact and participate in outdoor sports such as fishing so that our negitive impacts are minimized!  Especially during a time of year when fish are trying to reproduce.

Just an opinion, dont get worked up! Im not mad, just trying to get you to open your eyes a little bit!

[J Francho]

The point that i was trying to make is that THERE IS AN EFFECT!

So does me tinkling in Lake Ontario, but there is virtually NO IMPACT to the fishery.  Try to keep things in perspective here.

It is you with your eyes wide shut.  You're basically saying that what is OK for you to do, is not OK for others.

[Tin]

First off, I clearly stated that I LOVE FISHING DURING THE SPAWN, and this includes bed fishing. It is a blast! In no way would I ever stop fishing during this time,

2nd, in no way do I think that fishing during the spawn, or bed fishing; is completely devastating to lakes or bass as a species. The point that i was trying to make is that THERE IS AN EFFECT! dont need to point to studies, charts, or other references cause its just common sense. If a bed is left unprotected it is subject to predation. And, if "WE" are the reason that the bed is left unprotected than you can not count on nature to make up for this. We have to take that responsibility.

So you know you are causing an issue but continue to and won't stop? Well I guess this goes along with the rest of what you are saying. LOL

And you don't need studies, charts, or other references? Well seeing as though we are having a discussion not based of any evidence, I will say that fishing during the spawn helps fisheries, just because it does.

[RichF]

Come on guys. I didn't start this topic to discuss the effects fishing the spawn has on a fishery. I was just voicing my opinion about the apparent ease of catching bass during the spawn and how it seems as though (to me), more often than not, the majority of pro tournaments occur during this time.

[Glenn]

So called "common sense" doesn't stand up to proven science and research. If one isn't willing to look into the research, then there's no need to continue this discussion.

I think we're done here.