Why KVD?

[bmadd]

I will say the only thing I believe Ike is better at is marketing.

You obviously haven't seen the sexy shad thread  :

[Grey Wolf]

KVD makes better decisions on the water then anybody else , that's why he's  at the top.

[Tin]

I will say the only thing I believe Ike is better at is marketing.

You obviously haven't seen the sexy shad thread :

Wow, didn't think of that, you got it. KVD promotes by winning where as Ike is more the talker.

[Flukeman]

Easy boys, I should have known you would take it the wrong way. Not bragging, but I have met both guys several times, my Jr. Bassmaster Club has worked with the pro's every time they have been to Oneida whether at registration, eating dinner with them, being in a parade with them, having them stay at friends homes and cottages, as a marshall and spent 12 hours on the water as a camera guy with Ike. I've been very lucky to have conversations with most of the pro's. Now don't go thinking we are friends or something, I've just been lucky to get to ask questions about the business of fishing.

I like Ike as a person, all though I'm not into the showman stuff. I have I found him to be a great guy and has a ton of neat projects going on. I think he has the drive to be successful at everything he tries, and he is a GREAT fisherman.

That said I do not believe he looks at the records or the business of fishing the same way KVD does. That is all I am saying.

In my OPINION Ike has a different outlook on the business of Bass fishing, its not a bad thing

[Glenn]

That's fair.  Thanks for clarifying.

[SirSnookalot]

If your focus is spread out over many things its not possible to be the best at one thing. That's been proven through out all sports through out history.

This statement is so ludicrous it makes my hair hurt ! I know we have many golfers on BR, ever hear of Jack Nicklaus? At the present time probably the greatest ever to play. Not only was he dominant at play but had many business enterprises, course design, apparel, clubs, charities and most important he was a family man always there for his kids. He would leave a tournament after play on Friday to see his kids play football, then fly back Saturday morning to resume play. Greg Norman, clothes, design, wine and yachts, and Tiger Woods ( before personal problems) charities and commercials.

I'm sure top athletes figures in other sports can make similar claims.

[KYbass1276]

Wow Flukeman, never have I heard such bold statements from somebody who has never even met them!

I have - several times - and have been friends with Ike for over 11 years. Been fishing with him several times in fact. I'm not bragging, just letting you know that I know him quite well. And I can tell you wholeheartedly that you're way off base about Ike.

If you don't like him, which it sounds like you don't, that's fine. Knock yourself out. But please refrain from making blanket statements and assumptions about somebody you've never met.

Not taking away from KVD or anything but I remember hearing somewhere a couple of years ago that ike's and Kvd thought process about fishing are very close to one another.   I wish I could find it but Kvd when asked who most on the trail does he think comes close to his style and his mind set in fishing was, Kvd's answer was without a pause was IKE.

Give Ike a little more time to dail in and I think we will see more good things to come from him.  Not that we haven't already

[Flukeman]

I hope your hair doesn't hurt too bad Jack Nicklaus was most dominate from the 60's through 1976 (14 of his 18 majors), his golf course design started in the 90's I thought. Greg Norman was dominant from the 80's to 1993, clothing started in 92. Tiger practically unstoppable until the last couple of years when others started closing the gap. Year that foundation started 2007.

Your name on clubs is no different than your name on fishing rods.

Shooting commercials is a lot different than traveling around country and shooting half hour shows at our countries major cities. Most of the shows you see KVD on are old shows cut into new shows. Although I did see one the other day with a 5 minute slot of him fishing what I beleive was the new swimming soft jerkbait type baits.

[SirSnookalot]

Nicklaus first course was designed in 1970 and continued while on regular tour then more so once he was on the senior tour.

http://www.amazon.com/Nicklaus-Design-Course-Strategy-Architecture/dp/B0002RQ1WC

Tiger Woods foundation was founded in 1996

http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?partner=justgivews&ein=06-1468499

True Gregg Norman clothing was founded in 1992 as he was at the top of his game then, still being a major force ( 149 of his 331 weeks as the world's #1 player were after 1994 ) while building his business empire.

http://www.shark.com/sharkwatch/biography/weeks_no_1.php

I'm only saying there have been some that have been able to focus both in their sport as well as outside activities and be successful.

[preach4bass]

BR has turned into fact check central the past few weeks. ;D

[cart7t]

I suspect that we're seeing the Tiger Woods effect in so far as KVD in bass fishing.

Kevin shows up for a tournament and 80% of the competition has already accepted the fact they're fishing for 2nd place at best. And that's before anyone's made a single cast.

By day 2 of the tournament there's maybe a handful left that think they can win and even they suffer from self doubt to the point they're one cast away from a complete meltdown.

KVD, much like Tiger is possibly the best to have ever played in his sport. Unfortunately there is nobody there with the balls to flex their muscles and take it to him. Tiger probably wouldn't have won as many majors had a guy like Nicklaus been around to give him competition. KVD needs someone like a Roland Martin, Larry Nixon or a Rick Clunn in their primes to do the same. The new breed golfers/anglers are too soft. Tiger or Kevin have already psyched most of them out without even having to work very hard for it. Somebody has to make those guys sweat for some of their victories, nobody is.

[KYbass1276]

Tiger or Kevin have already psyched most of them out without even having to work very hard for it. Somebody has to make those guys sweat for some of their victories, nobody is.

No offense this is just my opinion but seems to me as far as kvd is concearned that you would have to work harder to get to where he is than back in the day.  You don't get to where KVD is without working hard.  Same goes for tiger woods. 

If you can't handle the mental side of the game or competition then it's obvious to me you aren't ready for that level yet. Not saying you cart aren't ready I'm speaking of pro competitors.