Super User flechero Posted February 22, 2009 Super User Posted February 22, 2009 Why is it that they swing about 75% (my estimate) of the fish straight into the bottom of the boat and let them flop around on carpet. Even worse is the culling footage... laying all ALL 5 fish out on the carpeted floor to cull. > Unacceptable! Come on guys, lip em, or swing to the hand or line. Cull without laying them all out on carpet, repeatedly. If us weekenders can do it, a freaking pro should be able to manage it. At least pretend to respect the resource. > These guys are supposed to be the best.... from what I have seen, they excel at catching and abusing fish. So sad to watch. And I don't accept any of the "well it's the classic, every fish is huge..." I'd love to see some controlled water, delayed mortality numbers from this tournament... I bet our heads would spin.
Rich Tehan Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 You're right. I can kinda understand swinging them into the boat, but letting it flop around is bad. They look like little kids when they do that. And the culling, if they're not going to have co's this year, then they should use their dual livewells instead of throwin em on the floor.
BassnMan Mike Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I thought the same thing when watching the replay this morning when one angler had all of his fish laying on the carpet to cull
bass wrangler569 Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I thought the same thing when watching the replay this morning when one angler had all of his fish laying on the carpet to cull X2, if they want to act like cavemen they should put down their rods and pick up clubs. Laying your all your fish across the carpet of the boats is unprofessional and doesn't promote our sport at all.
BassnMan Mike Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 "Laying your all your fish across the carpet of the boats is unprofessional and doesn't promote our sport at all." Besides the damage it does to the bass.
Super User eyedabassman Posted February 22, 2009 Super User Posted February 22, 2009 NOT GOOD, what ever circuit they are fishing ( B A S S, FLW, BFL, ect ) should get on these pro's for doing this! It sends the wrong message to the young guys fishing tournaments and to everyone, that this is OK. These pro's are roll models let's fish like PRO"S!
Super User Sam Posted February 22, 2009 Super User Posted February 22, 2009 Its the money. You get a fish in the boat and it counts. So it flops around a little. Just get it in the live well and go forward. Money. Its the money. The more fish in the live well the more money you will earn. B.A.S.S. is sensitive to how the fish are handled at the weigh-in and then their release so maybe you all are right....use a net.
fishizzle Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 Dude its for 500K and swinging saves time and carpet culling is their way to be positive of the ounces it takes to win. I realize its bad for the bass but its about the money for them. tourney money and sponsors Someday swinging will be banned--for now they should at least not show it on tv
Super User Root beer Posted February 22, 2009 Super User Posted February 22, 2009 I swing fish into the boat, but I'm quick to prevent it from flopping so much. What wrong with swinging fish into the boat?
bass wrangler569 Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 I swing fish into the boat, but I'm quick to prevent it from flopping so much. What wrong with swinging fish into the boat? I don't think there is anything wrong with the actual swing but "post-swing" is what presents the problem IMO. You have fish landing hard from several feet in the air on a dry, roughly carpeted surface where they are going to flop around for at least a few seconds until they are picked up properly. BASS should allow the use of nets but they don't probably never will because seeing a pro reaching over the side of the boat trying to scoop a big fish up is much more dramatic (better for ratings) than seeing the same pro lazily net a fish.
Super User 5bass Posted February 22, 2009 Super User Posted February 22, 2009 If its done right, the fish dont have to 'crash down' into the boat. You have tension on the fish and you can swing them in without the hard landing. I swing any fish I can. But I dont let them flop around for any length of time. I get them off the carpet asap. Regardless, the excessive flopping and carpet culling shouldn't be a part of any TV broadcast....like someone said, it sends the wrong message to the younger folks.
fishizzle Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 The carpet removes the slime coat. the system that protects them from infection
UPS VT Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I don't mind seeing them swing the fish into the boat, but I really don't like it when they lay their fish on the carpet to choose what one they are going to cull. Maybe sometime they should time how long it takes them to do that, and then go in stick their head in the water for that same length of time ;D
Super User flechero Posted February 23, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 23, 2009 Done right, there is nothing wrong with swinging a fish. Swing it over the boat and grab the fish or line on its way in... Done right, the fish never touches the carpet. If the fish is too big to catch on the way in, reach over the side and lip it.
fishnjohn Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 There should be a penalty for mishandling the fish. I saw that clip also when he was culling and had his fish laying out on the floor. I don't know about you guys but I weigh the fish when I tag them and put them in my livewell. This way I know which fish is the smallest.
clipper Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 It looks like it is unanimous against letting the fish hit the carpet. Why not start a BR online petition and let Glenn send it to B.A.S.S. once everyone has had a chance to sign up. They might not listen to us, but then again they might.
Super User eyedabassman Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 The carpet removes the slime coat. the system that protects them from infection Bingo! I don't think it is a big deal on the swinging of the fish! But putting them on the carpet to cull is wrong, That I have a problem with, and I don't care money or not.
BassnMan Mike Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 There is nothing wrong with swinging fish, weve all done it from time to time. When I do it I swing them to the lower deck but try not to let them hit the carpet. I cant deny that from time to time they have hit the carpet but tjis is uasually when they come unbottoned. I can say that I have NEVER culled fish by laying them out on the floor. I found it very hard to believe that ESPN aired that.
Pond Hopper Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Ike is one of the worst, fish banging every part of the boat before he does his break dance. Granted a fish to me isnt worth hundreds of thousands of dollars but their promoting of the sport is lacking.
NYfishwow Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Great to have women in tournament now, but if they never face real best, it would been an real tournament,see best struggle.Only mike and skeet who struggled for top. Didn't look like a ultimate bass master tournament but Congrats Skeet Reece the California, U.S. champion.
bassfanpa Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I am all for the use of a net to protect the fish. Penalties should occur for laying out the fish for culling (or T.V.) purposes. But I have to say that I don't believe Iaconelli is the only one guilty of beating on the fish...
OK Bass Hunter Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I'm glad I wasn't the only person who cringed when he had all 5 fish on the carpet to cull. The excess flopping on the carpet also rubbed me the wrong after all the times on the fishing shows when they tell you protect the slime coat to prevent infection. I guess for some that only matters when there's no money on the line.
Bass Dude Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I went to school for fisheries management, we shocked fish (electrofishing) to stun them and make them come to the suface. Then we scooped them up in a net, not one at a time either!! Then we would toss them in a holding tank. After all that, we would then pull them out, measure them, pull scales and jam a tag in their back. After all that, they would finally be released back in the water. To me, the pros aren't any rougher on fish than the biologists that study them.
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