Super User Grey Wolf Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 I won't try to analyze him but IMHO he's fun to watch.
tyrius. Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Just have always felt this guy saw an opportunity to be a star by fist pumping and yelling. Its paid off big time. How do you say the above and the below in the same post? Either way the guy can flat out fish. He's a star BECAUSE he is a great angler (AOY and Classic winner), the fist pumping has nothing to do with that. If he was a mediocre pro, he'd be a nobody.
Triton20x3pro Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 He is definitely a super high energy guy with some impulse control issues, but I just love how he still has the fire for the sport. I believe his enthusiasm for bass fishing is why he is one of the top guys out there.
R@ngerman195vs Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 IKE is a PRO - nobody can argue with that. But along with being a Professional, should come some responsibilities for behavior that we would want our children or grandchildren to exhibit. If my kids behaved the way Ike does at times, they'd be sitting out the event in the Truck. (probably beating out the windows if they were IKE ;D )
Little Luey Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I don't think he is over the top. I think it is funny and I like the emotion shown. I do think that he brings lots of personality and talent to the tournoments. Every angler has different ways and personality, some quiet, some not so quiet. I personally like the way he "celebrates" landing his big fish. I have seen local guys scream like him before landing the fish, only to lose it right at the boat, or guys loosing the big one and having a fit about it afterwards. Imagine doing all this for a living, could you not show emotion? The way I see it is like a running back in football going all the way and having an end zone dance, some guys dance and some don't. Him sticking his pliers on the boat is like any golf player trowing the clubs, I am not saying I would do it, but I understand frustration.
NYfishwow Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 he is a very talented fisherman. i have no issues with him getting excited on his own boat catching fish. even when he went on a tirade and kicked the american flag off his boat. i didnt get mad at that. i am sure most were like that was disrespectful. the issue was he wasnt thinking and acted purely on emotion. to see that many folks not understand this and making such a big comotion about it along with media over hype is sad. imo...he is a true american angler. if you dont like him, dont watch him He is the OPPOSITE of the TRUE AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL angler. I do understand him. Having worked with troubled kids.. I understand very well. Everyone is emotional to some degree. Skeet, KVD, CLUNN...all of them are emotional. Some choose to contain it, to a point, and some dont. IKE's emotions show elements of violence. Demonstrations of domination over a smaller object/fish. Violent outbursts followed by him breaking equipment. Displays stabbing motions, barking, taunting.... I could go on but you all have seen it. He is a grown man, he can do whatever he wants! If you guys don't see that, thats sad. For his age being able to tell like that is great, GO MIKE!
Powerworm Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Ike is not over the top. He used to be worse I think, he's calmed down a tad.
reo Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I do not think that he is "over the top" I do think that he is great for the sport and that at least some of his antics have some element of theatrics. Was there this much talk on this site last year about the guy that did NOT win?? People are really talking about steroids and everything that is wrong in baseball and some are leaving the sport as fans. Just because people are talking about him, doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. I kinda get what you are saying but not really a fair analogy, IMO. The troubles you speak of in baseball are of people trying to gain an unfair advantage by using performance enhancing substances (cheating) and then lying about it. Ike yells and screams and does other unorthodox things that some folks may find offensive, heck he may even have Demonstrations of domination over a smaller object/fish, but cheating and then lying about it (baseball guys) I don't think so. To some people he is a villain and to others hero. Just what every successful sport needs.
Little Luey Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 IKE is a PRO - nobody can argue with that. But along with being a Professional, should come some responsibilities for behavior that we would want our children or grandchildren to exhibit. If my kids behaved the way Ike does at times, they'd be sitting out the event in the Truck. (probably beating out the windows if they were IKE ;D ) I understand what you say, however, if I wanted to shield my kids from any and all acts of unprofessionalism I would have to live in Siberia somewhere. you just need to watch the news and see how bad some professionals behave. I just hope my kids have enough commun sence to not do some of that stuff. I don't think screaming and puting your pliers thru your boat is the worse we have seen. My 13 year old and I were laughing when Mike was on the boat floor screaming like crazy.
daviscw Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 If I was bringing in his checks I would be that happy too. Anybody here that wouldn't scream for $100,000 is a liar.
Super User Dan: Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 I think his outbursts/persona are at least 50% an act. I have seen him land fish and be very calm then glance over at the camera, and as if he just remembered it was there, begin to muster screams and fist pumps. I think he is a flamboyant character but I think the reputation that the media has given him as a young, crazed, emotional fisherman who brings "extremeness" to the sport has made him construct a character that he fulfills.
Little Luey Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 If I was bringing in his checks I would be that happy too. Anybody here that wouldn't scream for $100,000 is a liar. Agreed. Thank you. ;D ;D
mtnbasser Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I'm wondering what would be the majority of responses be if the first post was from a Moderator saying Ike was a member of this forum.
SuperNewbie Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 i can see both sides sometimes he is over the top but i can see the fact that i get really worked up when a bass breaks the pound mark but maybe that's just us :-?
Super User senile1 Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 I do not think that he is "over the top" I do think that he is great for the sport and that at least some of his antics have some element of theatrics. Was there this much talk on this site last year about the guy that did NOT win?? People are really talking about steroids and everything that is wrong in baseball and some are leaving the sport as fans. Just because people are talking about him, doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. I kinda get what you are saying but not really a fair analogy, IMO. The troubles you speak of in baseball are of people trying to gain an unfair advantage by using performance enhancing substances (cheating) and then lying about it. Ike yells and screams and does other unorthodox things that some folks may find offensive, heck he may even have Demonstrations of domination over a smaller object/fish, but cheating and then lying about it (baseball guys) I don't think so. To some people he is a villain and to others hero. Just what every successful sport needs. Please read all of my posts before you assume I'm taking a side here. I don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm just saying that the argument of everyone talking about Ike's actions being good for the sport isn't necessarily so. If he offends 25 percent of the people and they are talking about it maybe it's not such a good thing for the sport. Maybe, maybe not.
tritz18 Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I think it shows his true passion as an angler, plus he is a really nice guy. I think I would be a little annoyed by it if he were stuck up and a jerk, but he's not.
arul Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I don't think he is over the top. I think it is funny and I like the emotion shown. I do think that he brings lots of personality and talent to the tournoments. Every angler has different ways and personality, some quiet, some not so quiet. I personally like the way he "celebrates" landing his big fish. I have seen local guys scream like him before landing the fish, only to lose it right at the boat, or guys loosing the big one and having a fit about it afterwards. Imagine doing all this for a living, could you not show emotion? The way I see it is like a running back in football going all the way and having an end zone dance, some guys dance and some don't. Him sticking his pliers on the boat is like any golf player trowing the clubs, I am not saying I would do it, but I understand frustration. Exactly! The football endzone celebration is a PERFECT anaology. I love the endzone celebrations...the wackier the better. My dad hates them. Just depends on how you are wired.
Super User Muddy Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 he is a very talented fisherman. i have no issues with him getting excited on his own boat catching fish. even when he went on a tirade and kicked the American flag off his boat. i didn't get mad at that. i am sure most were like that was disrespectful. the issue was he wasn't thinking and acted purely on emotion. to see that many folks not understand this and making such a big commotion about it along with media over hype is sad. imo...he is a true american angler. if you dont like him, dont watch him He is the OPPOSITE of the TRUE AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL angler. I do understand him. Having worked with troubled kids.. I understand very well. Everyone is emotional to some degree. Skeet, KVD, CLUNN...all of them are emotional. Some choose to contain it, to a point, and some dont. IKE's emotions show elements of violence. Demonstrations of domination over a smaller object/fish. Violent outbursts followed by him breaking equipment. Displays stabbing motions, barking, taunting.... I could go on but you all have seen it. OK Dr.Phil, now that you brought this into the picture, let's see i have spent my career working a a Job Corps Center, currently Supervisor of Residential Living, I would say I work with " troubled kids" Ike: 1. is not a kid 2. He is very excitable, and shows NO SIGNS of INHERENT VIOLENCE he does show the passion and vigor of an Italian American guy from New Jersey. I am an Italian American guy from Brooklyn, so maybe I can feel him a little bit better than you do. We were taught to show our emotions growing up. Better to show them than turning them inwards and then going postal Throwing pliers is a long way away from hurting animals and the other classic signs of aggression also why would you dismiss Robbie's comments like that. Bad foot to start off around here. :-? oh and by the way WHAT PLACE DID YOU COME IN AT THE CLASSIC :
m_lowlander Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Everyone needs to chill. I'm not bashing mike as a fisherman. I read his book, I enjoy watching him fish. I dont enjoy watching him act like an *** He is a great fisherman. That wasn't the question The question was is he over the top... My answer was YES. I also think he has some issues. Thats all.
Super User burleytog Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 He gives 'over the top' a bad name. His act is growing quite lame.
m_lowlander Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 he is a very talented fisherman. i have no issues with him getting excited on his own boat catching fish. even when he went on a tirade and kicked the American flag off his boat. i didn't get mad at that. i am sure most were like that was disrespectful. the issue was he wasn't thinking and acted purely on emotion. to see that many folks not understand this and making such a big commotion about it along with media over hype is sad. imo...he is a true american angler. if you dont like him, dont watch him He is the OPPOSITE of the TRUE AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL angler. I do understand him. Having worked with troubled kids.. I understand very well. Everyone is emotional to some degree. Skeet, KVD, CLUNN...all of them are emotional. Some choose to contain it, to a point, and some dont. IKE's emotions show elements of violence. Demonstrations of domination over a smaller object/fish. Violent outbursts followed by him breaking equipment. Displays stabbing motions, barking, taunting.... I could go on but you all have seen it. OK Dr.Phil, now that you brought this into the picture, let's see i have spent my career working a a Job Corps Center, currently Supervisor of Residential Living, I would say I work with " troubled kids" Ike: 1. is not a kid 2. He is very excitable, and shows NO SIGNS of INHERENT VIOLENCE he does show the passion and vigor of an Italian American guy from New Jersey. I am an Italian American guy from Brooklyn, so maybe I can feel him a little bit better than you do. We were taught to show our emotions growing up. Better to show them than turning them inwards and then going postal Throwing pliers is a long way away from hurting animals and the other classic signs of aggression also why would you dismiss Robbie's comments like that. Bad foot to start off around here. :-? oh and by the way WHAT PLACE DID YOU COME IN AT THE CLASSIC : I am not getting into a ticking match on the internet about credentials. You are a counsler, a Dr. Phil Jr., big deal.... Later.... this Ike love fest is too much.
Super User Muddy Posted February 23, 2009 Super User Posted February 23, 2009 He can read too! How do you get counselor from Residential Living Supervisor. I supervise dorms that house 600 students, and their staff. You posted your credentials and theories first, I challenged them, why no back up to your statements? Wow what a start, he's gonna do great around here. a pleasure I am sure. :
SuskyDude Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Waaay over the top. I think he's a tool and wouldn't let him on my boat no matter how good of a fisherman he is. Besides, the first time he screamed and hollered over a 1-pounder I'd kick him overboard! Showing some emotion is one thing. Yelling and sceaming and breaking stuff is childish. If you want the sport to start having a "WWE feel" to it...then Ike's your man. : Plus he's really rough on the fish he catches, bouncin' em off the deck of the boat, holding them horizontally by the jaw w/o supporting the belly, etc. I can only watch a "professional" do that so much. A little respect for the resource that makes him rich would be nice to see.
ILfisherman Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 OK Dr.Phil, now that you brought this into the picture, let's see i have spent my career working a a Job Corps Center, currently Supervisor of Residential Living, I would say I work with " troubled kids" Ike: 1. is not a kid 2. He is very excitable, and shows NO SIGNS of INHERENT VIOLENCE he does show the passion and vigor of an Italian American guy from New Jersey. I am an Italian American guy from Brooklyn, so maybe I can feel him a little bit better than you do. We were taught to show our emotions growing up. Better to show them than turning them inwards and then going postal Throwing pliers is a long way away from hurting animals and the other classic signs of aggression also why would you dismiss Robbie's comments like that. Bad foot to start off around here. :-? oh and by the way WHAT PLACE DID YOU COME IN AT THE CLASSIC : Wow, talk about problems. Calm down dude. As for the second highlight, THIS IS A FORUM. People disagree, live with it. Personal remarks/attacks abound in your post. I'm sure Ike is cool enough to take some heat, you don't need to defend him. Afterall, he's "not a kid". :
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