Points systems?

[anglerEd]

I would appreciate any advice on the best points system to use for a series we are puting together. The points will be to determin those who get a free fishing trip in a classic that will wrap up an 8 event series. We are now wraping up a series that will end with a March classic and are trying to get the buggs out for the next series. We have had great growth in attendance and realised our current points system was broken when we got into the 40 boat range. Currently we give 10 for 1st, 8 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd, 4 for 2nd, and 2 for 5th through last place. With our 4th event drawing 42 boats, we realised that folks who got checks in a 1 in 5 payout, recieved the same # of points as folks who weighed in zero. BROKEN! Our first event only had 12 boats, then the 2nd and 3rd events had turnouts in the low 20's. We havent run tournaments before but we are learning now and at least are figuring out what will not work. So please help us put something together that will be straight forward, friendly, and fair.

I have heard to stay away from weight based points, and a system based on boat count has been recomended, but I could use some details. Also, it is a bit dificult for us to predict the size of our following now and in the future. We are geting over 40 as of the last, but who knows on the next and through the summer series. I would think 50 boats would be our max, but who knows? We need something with some flexibility built in for big and smaller turnouts.

Thanks

Ed

[FD.]

How about this one. Its a mix of the ABA system and a club system.

Say you expect to average 30 boats per event.

200 pt base

subtract 2 pts x #of boats under the average. This is your event max pts. (the more competition the more pt reward)

I would add a weight based bonus. This would add value for heavy weights with penalizing anyone to heavily for not fishing the heavy weight tourneys (spawn).

I would also consider dropping one or two events and using the top 6 or 7 highest scores in considering the top prize. This allows someone to miss and event for whatever reason (life) and still have a shot at the big prize.

example: Jan tourney has 25 boats. 5 boats below your expected avg.

1st place had 21 lbs score is 190 pts plus 21 = 211pts

2nd place had 18 lbs score is 188 pts plus 18 = 206 pts

3rd place had 12 lbs score is 186 pts plus 12 = 198 pts

ect

ect

ect

anyone not weighing fish is credited with 50 pts just for participating.

I have been in a strictly points trail where I qualified for a regional that I don't think I deserved to.  And a strictly weight club where I missed the spawn tourneys and had no chance to finish near the top even though I fished the same number of tourneys as others.

I have fished in 4 different tournament trails that don't really care what you think of the rules. This is what I would like see if I fished in yours and had input.

[anglerEd]

Thanks, good ideas. It struck me as a touch more complicated than what I was expecting, but I am begining to understand it.

Some clairifications if you have time.

1- Assuming we could guess and average, if our average boat count was chosen to be 30, I assume we would need to add points to the 200 base as well. 40 boats equals a top points position of 220?

2- weight is usualy a 12.34 or someting like that. Just use decimal places in our points totals?

3-when it comes to droping events, I just need some cairification there. 8 total events. 6 required to fish the classic. You are saying just tally everyones best 6 for points totals. That is a pretty good idea if I understand you correctly.

[FD.]

1.  Probably not necessary unless you expect to have more than 75 boats.  75th place would put you at 50 pts plus your weight if you caught fish. (show up points is 50)  

2.  Either round it or keep the decimal places.  Imagine the excitement if the title is won by .36 points.  If you keep the decimal then you almost completely rule out the chance of a tie.

3.  Yes.  Use only the best 6 scores.  This allows everyone to (have a life) miss a few tourneys and still have a shot.

[FD.]

it does sound complicated, but I could help help you clean up the language if this is something you think you could use.

[anglerEd]

I hope to see some other ideas and/or veriations presented here, but I very much like what I see in your plan.

BTW to any middle GA folks out there, below is the website link to our Jackson Lake Pot Tournament Series. Details of the series under way are there and it will be updated to describe our new Spring /Summer series when the time is right. 100% payback, $35/boat. Spring/Summer we will be adding a Sinclair and an Oconee event to keep it interesting.

http://lakejacksonpottournaments.tripod.com/index.html

[zbass]

This is how we based our old club points.

100 pt base for 1st

99 for second

98 for third

etc.........

Then we added bonus points. Keep in mind we are talking about IN.

 2 pts for a limit

 2 pts for biggest fish

 

The first boat that does not weigh fish and all after that gets 50 pts.

Three years in a row we had the championship decided by 1 or 2 pts. I like adding the weight in like fishindaddy said.