DD22's

[retiredbosn]

Any one fish these monster cranks?  If so how do you fish them without being beat to death.  I mean I have caught fish that pulled less!!  I use a BP Cranking stick MH and a Daivid Fritts reel 5.2 ratio, and my goodness it just beats me to death.  Any advice

[5bass]

You could gear down to the Fritts 4.7:1. I pull DD22's all summer long, every summer with the 4.7:1 and never have any problems. The DD22 is in the Top 3 on my favorite bait list. The MH rod is fine. I personally like a 7'6" M for deep cranks but thats just my preference.

When using big crankbaits, think about it like mountain biking. You see a big hill that will take lots of energy to climb, you just switch gears and the hill is no problem. You might have to make more pedal rotations going up that hill but the energy/power it takes to make those rotations has been reduced significantly by switching gears......you still climb the hill and you've not burnt yourself out.

Gears are your friends.  

[basspimple]

believe it or not, i use a flipping stick heavy action. get the lure to cast farther, and the rod takes a lot of punishment they dish out. i dont really believe im using more forgiving rods when fishing big cranks, i can never get a fish to hook up on em. :-?

[jbh3]

I agree wholeheartedly with both posters above. Matched with the 5:1 ratio reel of your choice flip sticks are great for the big crankbaits. They also make great C-rig and football jig rods.

[Hookemdown.]

I don't know about using flipping sticks for cranking rods. I'm currently using a 7' M paired with a Fritts 4.7:1.

I see a Winch in my future.

[NewScreenNameAdvised]

These are my favorite.  I have 2 rods for them, both loomis CBR847c.  One has a 5:1 reel for when I keep the boat moving and another with a Curado 3.8:1 for when I am parking the boat and pcking an area apart.  That 3.8:1 reels them in like BUTTER, but is too slow for when I want to move quickly along a shoreline.

I am currently looking to swap out rods.  I was experimenting throwing them on a swimbait rod with a long handle that I can tuck under my armpit and it really helped out a lot with wear and tear on my body.  i want to get a rod make for crankbaits with a long handle like this.

[detroit1]

DD22's are my favorites also. I have used a 3.8 to 1 reel but got tired of reeling 2300 times on each cast, so it is retired and now use a 6:1. (i pull or sweep alot on the retrieve) 7'6" M flipping stick is my favorite rod for cranks, spinnerbaits, and soft plastic swimbaits. My smallest bass on a dd22 was 8" long. (eyes WAY bigger than his stomach)...

[BassBandit35]

retiredbosn, I know what you mean, I had all of my DD22 sitting in tackle tray for about 5 years because of that. Until this year I gave in and now they're my favorite deep diver. It was not the rod nor reel ratio gear that caused me all the beating. I discovered it was the casting control knob all along. No overruns but harder to retrieve. I loosen the knob a bit and it makes the world of difference, smoother retrieve but, a little overruns here and there but not as bad. Try and see if that will help.

Farther distance casting is other advantage.

[booneangler]

the david fritts reel you got is awesome for cranking. As far as rods go i use the David Fritts cranking sticks. But as soon as the new KVD Quantums come out in the 7'8 or 7'10 somethihng like that im gonna get one of those and try it.

[roadwarrior]

Well, the Lamiglas SR705R is still on sale

at Cabela's.  If you match this rod up with

a Shimano CTE200GT (5.0:1) you have a

combination that will let you fish DD22's

all day long!

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0037314120919a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products_liberal&sort=all&QueryText=sr705r&_D%3AhasJS=+&Go.y=6&Nty=1&hasJS=true&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertificate%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D0005586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D&_D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=+&N=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=10

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0012036115660a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=cte200gt&Ntk=Products_liberal&sort=all&Go.y=8&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&Go.x=11&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

8-)

[Wayne P.]

I use an old Lew's Speed Spool reel with a Kistler 7' cranking rod.

[Munkin]

Well, the Lamiglas SR705R is still on sale

at Cabela's.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0037314120919a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products_liberal&sort=all&QueryText=sr705r&_D%3AhasJS=+&Go.y=6&Nty=1&hasJS=true&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertificate%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D0005586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D&_D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=+&N=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=10

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0012036115660a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=cte200gt&Ntk=Products_liberal&sort=all&Go.y=8&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&Go.x=11&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

8-)

I have that rod and do not like it at all! Maybe I am just so use to graphite?

Allen

[jb_adams]

You're cranking them too fast if it's beating you to death.  I have heard of guys just ripping them through the water but you had better have a pretty stiff rod like a c-rig or jig rod as mentioned above for that.  A fast reel will allow you to burn it without having to crank as fast.  I prefer to swim it at a slow pace.

I cast it, let it sit and settle, then swim it down slow.  It dives deeper from the start that way.  If you feel it pulling, you're going too fast.  If you can feel the bait swimming slightly, you're just about right.  Swim it until you can just barely feel it at all and then back of a little.  Try various speeds but the slower usually works better.  If you are not bumping something, you're just using it as a swimbait.  If you bump it off the bottom or on stumps, trees, rocks, silt, etc., you'll create a big noisy presentation.  When you bump a tree or stump, stop reeling it and let it sit for a few seconds..then burn it for a few feet.  That usually gets a strike.

I thought the faster reels had a higher ratio?  Like a 6.1 is slower than a 7.1 ratiois that not right?

[Bass XL]

I thought the faster reels had a higher ratio? Like a 6.1 is slower than a 7.1 ratiois that not right?

That's right.

I started fishing DD22's this year and I really like them. About 90% of the fish I catch hit it right under the boat right as it is started to go up.

[jb_adams]

I thought the faster reels had a higher ratio? Like a 6.1 is slower than a 7.1 ratiois that not right?

That's right.

I started fishing DD22's this year and I really like them. About 90% of the fish I catch hit it right under the boat right as it is started to go up.

Thanks.

Sounds like they were following your bait and decided to commit as they saw it approaching something unfamiliar or dangerous (the boat).  I've seen bass do that on swimbaits and other baits.  I've been in the process of pulling my swimbait out of the water when out of nowhere a bass appears on the other line.  I just keep swinging the bass all the way into the boat.  Shortest fight I've ever had!

A DD22 bite is very similar to a swimbait bite.  They don't always smack it like a worm or spinnerbait usually is.  It's an increase in tension or pressure.  You can feel it hit the bait and sometimes they hit it pretty good but usually it's a sudden tension increase instead of a "tug-tug-tug-tug" type motion.

I've had better luck cranking slow than fast anyday.  I was testing one to see if it was running true and got more hits because I was trying to slow down and feel the bait.  I felt it alright....felt that bass hit it that is.

[fishfordollars]

Everyone needs to man up. Either crankit ,or leave it at home. Try fishing it on a c-rig with a 1 1/2 oz. weight and 4 ft. leader. I catch a ton that way and you don't wear yourself out as bad.

[TruiteBR]

What are your favorite colors? I am having a hard time choosing colors.

[Bass XL]

What are your favorite colors? I am having a hard time choosing colors.

All of the Texas Shad colors, but the one with the red stripe is my favorite.

[BassBandit35]

BassXL, your talking about this one ?

http://www.normanlures.com/nlstore/images/165-Big.jpg

If so, I've been eyeballing it but hesitated cause I've never see anyone talk about that color.

[BassBandit35]

What are your favorite colors? I am having a hard time choosing colors.

So far I like the Smokey Joe but, don't have a favorite. Got 6 different colors here 3 of each, thanks to bait monkey. I also had them custom painted to my spec. (not cheap) Come late spring and summer I can't wait to throw it.

[roadwarrior]

Lavender shad lateral line, white chartreuse lateral line and Texas shad:

http://www.normanlures.com/nlstore/Detail.asp?DBID=38&CatID=1&SubCatID=4&Prod_Id=SDD22

8-)

[jb_adams]

Lavender shad lateral line, white chartreuse lateral line and Texas shad:

http://sfttackle.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=509&ParentCat=10

8-)

How about all of them?

I know Rootbeer has produced well for me in the past in clear water.  I was told chartreuse blue was once called "Beaver Lake Special" by locals because it produced so well in stained water.   I also know they don't call "sexy shad" sexy for nothing.  It works on smallmouth and largemouth.

Each bait has a better advantage over the next one given certain conditions so all of those are good colors.  I stay away from the really bright flashy ones in clear to stained water though.  If it's really stained or muddy, I'll throw the chrome or chart. blue, and other bright flashy colors.

[roadwarrior]

My suggestion is any one of these, basically "white".

White is the best representation for a variety of baitfish,

especially shad.

8-)

[TruiteBR]

I am going to buy from bps, but I can't find most of these colors there. Thanks guys.

[BassBandit35]

Forget it. Whatever I type and it shows different after I posted. What gives? When I give a direct link and it says "go to another site" I mean why can't I post the link to other store when RW is allowed to? Make no sense.