ThomasL Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 With all the finesse,drop shot,whatever new thing that comes out,who still uses the plain ol plastic worm,esp older styles(creme,manns,knight,fliptail,original yum company,etc) I still comb ebay for the older worms and from time to time luck up and find a few,not often enough! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 22, 2008 Super User Posted August 22, 2008 Never. I like very soft, soft plastics, lots of salt and scented or not, I still add scent! 8-) 2 Quote
zbigbadaaron Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Does a texas rigged culprit count. ;D 2 Quote
Pigsticker Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 um big creme worms in purple or earthworm are still killer baits the smaller ones work well the prop rig is cool but wacky rigging is a better option Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 22, 2008 Super User Posted August 22, 2008 I still fish with the famous 7.5 inch Culprit ribbon tail worm, still got about 20 packs of those in stock plus the ones I carry in my tackle bag, not only they are "old" style but old in age, purchased them in 1989. I rediscovered last month several packs of Mann 's Augertail and Mannipulator worms in a box, they 've been forgotten for about 5 years, yup they are also old, purchased the Augertails around 1985, the Mannipulators around 1989-1990. Also fished with Jelly Worms until a couple of years ago when I ran out of them, so that would make about 25 years of fishing with them. And guess what ? they still catch fish. There you go, me fising with a Culprit ribbontail worm: Quote
scbassin Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 I still use some that I have had since the late 70', early 80's. Superfloater, Fliptail Creme, Manns. I find they still catch fish. Quote
bmuskin Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 My brother in law uses Kelly prerigged worms 3 hook. I had great luck with them in the spring when the were scattered post spawn. I usually would locate them with the old kelly prerigged and then go after them with a Senko. Quote
Super User CWB Posted August 22, 2008 Super User Posted August 22, 2008 Back when I could afford it and I first started using them, I bought about 100 bags of ZetaBait Gillrakers and Manns Mannipulaters. Both still produce as good or better now. Double curled tail gives unique action. Slowly running out. :'( 1 Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted August 22, 2008 Super User Posted August 22, 2008 Never. RW, you disappoint me. Every southerner should fish a good old 7.5in Culprit ever so often. Quote
detroit1 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 I still have a pack of Lindy's , and 1 pack of Knight's tube worms that will not be opened. Culprit black/grape 5"(?) and 7.5" are the only "regular" worms i buy. I rig them on a slider-type jighead. (don't like t-rigging worms). Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 22, 2008 Super User Posted August 22, 2008 The Berkley 7" Power Worm pretty much ended my use of those baits. Quote
LCpointerKILLA Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 I still use the 7.5 inch culprit, but lately I have been catching most my fish on a 9 inch producto tournament ripple in grape. BTW producto worms rock. The fish seem to love em, and they are softer than a senko in texture, so the fish hang on. I do not work for producto!! http://www.productolure.com/tournamentripple.php'> http://www.productolure.com/tournamentripple.php p.s. prices on par with *** Quote
broncoboxer Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 I still use the 7.5 inch culprit, but lately I have been catching most my fish on a 9 inch producto tournament ripple in grape. BTW producto worms rock. The fish seem to love em, and they are softer than a senko in texture, so the fish hang on. I do not work for producto!!http://www.productolure.com/tournamentripple.php'> http://www.productolure.com/tournamentripple.php p.s. prices on par with *** Softer than a Senko?!? Sure the fish hang on. That's because the worm must rip right off the hook with their slightest head movement. Quote
Pigsticker Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 LC, How do you fish the producto tournament worm?? Quote
cast_n_pray Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 What a huge coincidence. I hardly ever post (anywhere) and came on here to tell you folks not to forget about going 'old school' when the bite is tough. I just happened to have a bag of Luck E Strike purple/firetail worms in my tackle box yesterday, it was the only thing either me or my partner could get a bite on. These worms are basically copies of the original Mister Twister worm. I wonder why grape has been abandoned by so many companies today? EDIT: I gotta order some of those Productos, I see they haven't left grape out ofthe mix! Quote
tritz18 Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 the oldest thing I use is the 7.5 culprit ribbontail worm Quote
ThomasL Posted August 23, 2008 Author Posted August 23, 2008 I just came back from my secret stash store and bought him out of the tube worms he had left,14 pks of 3ea in blk white tail and blue and solid black,also bought the last pack of lindy worms four in a pack blk chartreuse tail. Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 24, 2008 Super User Posted August 24, 2008 I have a package of the red Creme's (the original plastic worm) but have not used them as much as I should have. I am going to learn how to rig them from a friend so they spin in the water. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted August 24, 2008 Super User Posted August 24, 2008 I have been known to throw the ocassional Mann's ly worm, they stil work Fav's Marmalade(motoroil) and Grape (purple) Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted August 24, 2008 Super User Posted August 24, 2008 I still fish a few vintage worms: Mann's, Creme, Boone, Flip-Tails. Then I have some that I don't consider "vintage": Culprit, Gillraker, Mr.Twister. I still use them and they work fine. I'm really not too picky. -so many are interchangeable in function and effectiveness. I think the one great change that occurred that offered something really different was adding lots of salt to the plastic -not for the flavor so much, but for the density. Density differences in plastics make a difference in action and fall-rate -from really buoyant to really dense. Otherwise, worms really haven't changed all that much. I'm happy with any. Also, like Road Warrior, I like them soft -so I boil virutally all my plastics. Quote
Stringjam Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 I still use plain, straight-tailed plastic worms......a lot. They fit the conditions I fish and many times work much better than curl-tailed worms. (clear water.....cautious fish) FWIW.......I don't like salt in plastic, and if I'm getting hand-pours I always request that they don't impregnate the plastic with anything. It hampers the flexibility of the plastic, and from my experience just makes it easier to tear and doesn't really do anything in the first place (unless you're using the salt to actually create an action, such as a Senko). Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted August 25, 2008 Super User Posted August 25, 2008 I don't like salt in plastic, and if I'm getting hand-pours I always request that they don't impregnate the plastic with anything. It hampers the flexibility of the plastic, and from my experience just makes it easier to tear and doesn't really do anything in the first place (unless you're using the salt to actually create an action, such as a Senko). X2 The worst was when they started putting all that glitter into worms and grubs. It really stiffens the plastic. IMO, glitter, speckles, scent, and salt sell anglers, not fish. Excepting the density factor a LOT of salt offers, which most companies don't do like the Yamamoto's do. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted August 25, 2008 Super User Posted August 25, 2008 I still have a bunch of Culprit worms in my arsenal. Like Raul, I have some old bags of these worms going back to the early 90s. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted August 25, 2008 Super User Posted August 25, 2008 I guess I should have separated into two paragraphs...like so: The worst was when they started putting all that glitter into worms and grubs. It really stiffens the plastic. (Or better, "the bait").IMO, glitter, speckles, scent, and salt sell anglers, not fish. Excepting the density factor a LOT of salt offers, which most companies don't do like the Yamamoto's do. I wasn't meaning that ALL those things stiffen plastic. But, I believe glitter can stiffen a bait. No, not "one piece at the bend". Here's where I came to that: I used twister type grubs a lot a while back, often at super-slow retrieve speeds. It was really important that they operate at slow speed. Those with glitter in the tails wouldn't "swim" without reeling them too fast, although it was a lot of pretty course glitter though. Maybe, the plastic in those batches was stiffer than the non-glittered, but I believe it was the glitter. A small amount of fine glitter does work OK. But, my point is that old worms work just fine, and a lot of the new gimmicks are mostly for the angler's eye. Quote
Stringjam Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Unless there is a full cup of it in a single worm, Glitter can't stiffen a worm. Speckles can't stiffen a worm. And scent can't stiffen a worm. No way. Imagine, "my worm had a fleck of glitter right at the bend, so it didn't................. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! : b The salt or the plastic are the only real variables to consider. Yammies are 'soft plastic' with large 'hunks' of salt, and most other baits are 'medium plastic' with a softener and smaller grains of salt so that more plastic "adheres" to more plastic. (thus avoiding the 'cracking' ; like a senko) my .08 ;D ............and yammies have all the above characterists that you say make a worm 'stiff'. sorry, i have to type it one last time........No way. Brent - - you actually do this for a living, so I'll bow out to what wisdom you have to offer on the subject. My statement about the salt just reflects what I've found as a generality. example.....Bobby Garland's original hula grubs and Hyper-Tale Hulas. The best way I can describe them is "breathing." Bobby was adamant against the use of salt and refused to use them in his plastics, claiming that they stiffened the bait and robbed the action. Compared to Yamamotos, the Garlands still have (or had - no longer being in production) the edge in that category.....not to mention how much longer they last. another example......Gambler's Hibdon Flippin' Tube. Compare this lure to something like a Strike King Flippin' Tube which is chock full of salt. There is undeniably no comparison in the action - they aren't even in the same league. Will it always make a difference? I'm sure it won't - - but fluid action gives me more confidence in the clear water I fish, and I can personally see absolutely no benefit to impregnating a lure with salt. Just my experience.......IMO, FWIW and so on. Others may feel free to disagree. Quote
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