Perfect Hook Set Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 I was searching for a video for bass and found this one of a "pet" snakehead. Arnt the illegal? Quote
Super User Dan: Posted December 13, 2009 Super User Posted December 13, 2009 1. this is very, very old 2. no, they aren't dangerous. 3. yes, they are illegal. Quote
Perfect Hook Set Posted December 13, 2009 Author Posted December 13, 2009 1. does it matter if its old? 2. if they arnt dangerous they why are they being hunted in so many states no fish and release on them more like fish and kill Quote
Super User Dan: Posted December 13, 2009 Super User Posted December 13, 2009 There is a snakehead thread on the first page of this very section of the forum. Lots of snakehead discussion there already. They are being hunted for the threats they "could" pose and as a response to the sensationalized stories the media has created about them. I have it on good authority that in the Potomac, no snakeheads have been found with bass in their stomachs. Bass on the other hand, love to eat baby snakeheads. I'm not going to go into the whole "snakeheads aren't actually that bad" argument because we've beaten it to death and I would simply be restating what's already been said in other threads. Calling them "dangerous" is a joke, at least in regards to humans. They are just as likely to hurt a human as a musky, pike, or gar. "Potentially disruptive to the ecosystem" would be more accurate, but again, in the Potomac this has not been the case. Quote
Thai Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 The video you posted is of Channa. Micropeltes they get alot bigger and are more aggressive than the other species of snakeheads. Although there are documented attacks from brooding parents an attack even in its native water are one in a million, making an attack on a human in the us virtually impossible. But most importantly cant not survive in the US with the exception of perhaps florida but no establish populations have ever been documented. The species that have established residence in the US include the northern (channa argus) and bulleseye (channa marulius). Only the northern can survive the mild winters in most states but they pose no potential threat to humans and thus far there has not been any conclusive evidence that supports an enviromental threat either. Like dan has states no documentation has shown bass or other prized gamefish to be in the removed stomach contents of these misundertood beast. They inhabit low oxygenated waters that most fish deem uninhabitable with help from a variation of a labyrinth organ, so are not driving out populations of native fish.... Quote
Perfect Hook Set Posted December 13, 2009 Author Posted December 13, 2009 i never stated they were deadly to humans how many have been caught and tested for game fish in their stomachs? how fast do there digestive system works? depending on the number this may not prove that they do not prey highly on game fish Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted December 13, 2009 Super User Posted December 13, 2009 dan and thai got this @^$# covered already, so i'm not even going to bother restating what they and myself have said in the other threads. seems us potomac guys seem to be more "in the know" about snakeheads than people elsewhere... Quote
LHC - Bank Robber Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 i never stated they were deadly to humans how many have been caught and tested for game fish in their stomachs? how fast do there digestive system works? depending on the number this may not prove that they do not prey highly on game fish How many have been caught and tested is hard to tell. They've been in the potomac for years so there's a fairly large population of them (plus they spawn multi times a year and can have hunders of offspring) In those years the fish and game department has been electro fishing for them fairly regularly and I doubt I could even ball park a figure as to how many have been pulled out. I know ive pulled out around 20 in the last two years, and I expect that number to double by next year. Quote
RobbyZ5001 Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 The snakeheads are here to stay and most likely will expand their range. I think the authorities are mostly worried about the snakehead that grows to be around 5-6 feet. I thought its common name was king snakeheads, but I don't remember. There hasn't been any found yet, but they are worried that the species will appear. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted December 13, 2009 Super User Posted December 13, 2009 dan and thad got this @^$# covered already, so i'm not even going to bother restating what they and myself have said in the other threads. seems us potomac guys seem to be more "in the know" about snakeheads than people elsewhere... true dat. Too bad National Geographic scared everyone to death and they're ignorant to any information about snakeheads other than the image of them as "Frankenfish" Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted December 13, 2009 Super User Posted December 13, 2009 Dan: yeah its pretty sad really... Robby: you're thinking of the giant snakehead, Chana micropeltes. i don't think the climate is right here, they could probably survive in florida (i think they have actually been found on a few rare occasions in florida). Quote
MattinOK Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Dan: yeah its pretty sad really... Robby: you're thinking of the giant snakehead, Chana micropeltes. i don't think the climate is right here, they could probably survive in florida (i think they have actually been found on a few rare occasions in florida). Another reason to physically remove Florida from the US. Gators, boa constrictors, Hurricanes, big man-eating fish. Nothing good comes from Florida :-X Quote
Thai Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Where else can you catch snook, tarpon, peacock bass, barramundi, bullseye snakehead, and large bass in the same place? Quote
bass or bass ? Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Dan: yeah its pretty sad really... Robby: you're thinking of the giant snakehead, Chana micropeltes. i don't think the climate is right here, they could probably survive in florida (i think they have actually been found on a few rare occasions in florida). Another reason to physically remove Florida from the US. Gators, boa constrictors, Hurricanes, big man-eating fish. Nothing good comes from Florida :-X And you say this coming from a place like OKLAHOMA? Quote
Perfect Hook Set Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 thanks .dsa i was watching a documentary where a gentleman was talking about people worrying about them "walking" the gentleman said some thing to the effect, these fish should not be feared in any way and its not like they are going to sneak into your house and ****** a beer from your refrigerator Quote
Pitchinkid Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 All i know is i saw a movie on SCI-FI called Snakehead terror and they were running down people like cheetahs. Plus there was one at the end of the Movie about the size of Elephant. LOL Quote
Super User Dan: Posted December 14, 2009 Super User Posted December 14, 2009 ;D That's basically the same as the trailer for the Nat'l Geographic documentary... Quote
bowfish12 Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 ;D ;D That is hilarious! I loved how it was able to break through the hull of the boat. ;D Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted December 16, 2009 Super User Posted December 16, 2009 haha how about Frankenfish? i downloaded this to my zune but haven't watched it yet. Quote
lazeebum Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 thanks .dsa i was watching a documentary where a gentleman was talking about people worrying about them "walking" the gentleman said some thing to the effect, these fish should not be feared in any way and its not like they are going to sneak into your house and ****** a beer from your refrigerator If my beer is safe, I am good. Quote
Eternal Angler Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 1. this is very, very old 2. no, they aren't dangerous. 3. yes, they are illegal. Well they're dangerous to the eco system that's for sure. If they and the asian carp make it to the great lakes that can seriously screw things up for us fisherman. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted January 3, 2010 Super User Posted January 3, 2010 1. this is very, very old 2. no, they aren't dangerous. 3. yes, they are illegal. Well they're dangerous to the eco system that's for sure. If they and the asian carp make it to the great lakes that can seriously screw things up for us fisherman. no, that is not for sure. This has been discussed thoroughly in previous threads. They have NOT had any detrimental affect on the Potomac ecosystem in the years they have been here. Quote
Thai Posted January 3, 2010 Posted January 3, 2010 1. this is very, very old 2. no, they aren't dangerous. 3. yes, they are illegal. Well they're dangerous to the eco system that's for sure. If they and the asian carp make it to the great lakes that can seriously screw things up for us fisherman. no, that is not for sure. This has been discussed thoroughly in previous threads. They have NOT had any detrimental affect on the Potomac ecosystem in the years they have been here. false ive seen a dramatic increase in broken off buzzbaits ;D Quote
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