Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Firs off - I dont know if this is the right section - But you may need to see this! I have been told these fish are arround my area and to be on the look out for what is called a "Snakehead". Since 2002 there have been 2 NOTED catches, not many but considering they can live on land for up to 3 days and eat nearly ANYTHING the wildlife commission wants anyone who spots one of these in the USA to report it IMMEDIATLY. They said these things have VERY sharp teeth - and are often confused with a "Browning" the only way to tell the diff is the anal fin (Please no jokes) is over half the length as the dorsal i believe (top fin) Check out this video - which i must say is kinda sick. - made me sick. Quote
Bishop Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Same thing here in Arkansas. Their have been reports of these things in the drainage ditches in the southern parts of the state. Evidently they were imported into a stock pond for a fish farmer or farmers at some point. Little did they know these fish are able to breath air for short periods of time and can migrate over land to other bodies of water. The game and fish commission is going nuts over them and wants immediate reports if one is found so that they can exterminate them immediately. Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 They've been around for awhile now and apart from the initial scare of the them taking over, I haven't heard much else. Hear they give a helluva fight though. Quote
umahunter Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 here's a link to the special they did on NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/wild/3449/Overview those goobers on YouTube had better hope us fish and wildlife doesn't see there video. there quite serious about going after people who have them or smuggle them into the U S. for a tank or food. guess there a delicacy in some oriental shops . im sure there could also be a charge depending where they got the bass waste of a good bass > Quote
Oscar O. Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Thats messed up. Is it legal to keep a 10 inch bass? They call it a big @$$ 10 inch bass too, which is interesting, since there are much bigger bass than that. Maybe a 20lber vs the snakehead? kidding, i wouldnt want to see fish fighting in tanks. Maybe some nature underwater footage a monster bass and a snakehead, but not in a tank. The bass didnt even have a fair chance... I havent heard of any around here, but its interesting. Quote
Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 Very sickening - I felt it was wrong - made me nearly throw up knowing they did that knowing that hte bass was gona die, and to root the fish on like that was wrong, I believe in Survival of the fittest, but not in a small tank, it also wasted the bass, didnt even eat it, And they made STUPID remarks about the blood and laugh - those idiots need to be thrown in a tank of pirana's after being paper cut thousands of times. Just my .02. - Hope yall dont encounter one, but if ya do call Wildlife. Quote
Super User CWB Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 The guy that made this video is probably going to release the snakehead into the closest lake or pond when it gets too big for his tank. That's how this whole episode got started. Quote
Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 I wish there was a way to track the people down who do this stuff and have them arrested. Thats gona cause MAJOR problems once released. From what im researching - they are asexual and can have babies on thier own? This is not from a certified site just a post i read - anyone know about this? Does it take 2 of them? What are the odds they grow.? Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 That's just stupid! There isn't even a point to the video. Obviously these fools need a life, and a hand to head talk. > Quote
502largemouth Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 oh, if I find one, they will get a call......a call to come pick up a snakehead fish corpse. Why people have to introduce invasive species like this is beyond me. Death to all snakeheads......at least the ones here.....lol. Cyas, D Quote
dave Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I have fished in the pond where it all started, Crofton, MD. Tons of them in the Potomac River. Guys actually fish for them. They are not the monster they are made out to be. Exactly like BigRick said, not much talk about them here where it all began. A guide here used to do a comedy routine during his seminars. First they're going to eat all of the bait fish. Then they are going to eat all the game fish, including the bass. Then they will start coming out of the water and eating pets. Then your children while they are waiting at the school bus.... Quote
Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 I understand they aren't "Monsters" However reading NC's Wildlife Commission website, Its talking about what could happen should they continue to be put in the lakes, spawn. Its a matter of Prevention if you ask me, Not just because we don't want them to eat our bass, but because we obviously don't want them taking over our lakes. It would lessen our game fish as well as the food supply. I think they need to catch them and ship them home (or kill em). They said it is legal for you to kill it either by a stab in the head (Not damaging too much) or by putting it on Ice to preserve it. (Recommended route) but after watching the videos of people trying to remove the hook from one of these.... Its like a Piranha that can live out of water and doesn't need blood to become tenacious. Just BAD Species if you ask me. (For our habitats) Quote
SnowBass23 Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 I think a lot of the reactions around snakeheads is largely knee-jerk. Sure, they are invasive and have no business being in the US. But, as to how much damage they will really do I don't think it is as bad as originally suspected. I'd still kill anyone I found and call game and wildlife officials to be certain. Bowfin are very similar in the deep south. Nasty mudfish with a mouthful of teeth. They can destroy a fish they catch, but there are plenty of LMB swimming right alongside them in our rivers and lakes. Quote
Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 I'd still kill anyone I found and call game and wildlife officials to be certain. Kill Anyone? WOW ok so i must have taken this wrong - Hope you dont call Game Warden after a murder! Agree KEEL EM ALLZ! Quote
Super User 5bass Posted April 22, 2009 Super User Posted April 22, 2009 [movedhere] General Bass Fishing Forum [move by] five.bass.limit. Quote
done Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Hey BTech I take it you saw the news article about the one here recently. Couple of guys caught one in the Catawba system. it was 2.5 ft long, 12 lbs-ish (http://www.gastongazette.com/news/boat_32956___article.html/upton_fish.html) It is confirmed though that it is a snakehead. So be on the lookout for these guys out there. Quote
Btech Posted April 22, 2009 Author Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah I read that - Thats what made me do some research on this topic, Wanted to know what i could and when i found out how agressive they are i figured id inform those who are in our area about it. Quote
slomoe Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 There was a 30incher caught in MD yesterday. Big girl. http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/042309_snakehead_fish_threat Quote
Super User .dsaavedra. Posted April 24, 2009 Super User Posted April 24, 2009 i feel MUCH worse for the snakehead in the video than the bass. the tank is way to small for that snakehead (can barely turn around or chase food) the tank is way underfiltered (only one HOB filter!? seriously!?) when the snakehead made its initial thrashes, did you notice the sediments it stirred up from the gravel? thats what poo looks like after it breaks down in the tank. looks like that gravel has never been vacuumed. the tank is also oxygen deprived. there is no aeration at all, and the snakead can be seen gulping air several times during the video. there is also no cover at all in the tank and the snakehead must feel stressed in such an environment. i DON'T feel bad that they put a 10" bass in there because the bass WILL get eaten, no doubt in my mind about that. its not like the bass went to waste. it was used to feed a pet. i see no wrong in that. also most of those rumors about snakeheads staying out of water for days, walking across land, asexual reproduction (seriously!? :-?) and destroying fisheries are false. they are well established in the potomac river and haven't affected the native fish populations. snakeheads get too much hype :-/ Quote
Btech Posted April 25, 2009 Author Posted April 25, 2009 also most of those rumors about snakeheads staying out of water for days, walking across land, asexual reproduction (seriously!? :-?) and destroying fisheries are false. they are well established in the potomac river and haven't affected the native fish populations. snakeheads get too much hype :-/ As for snakeheads living on land for up to 30 sumthing hours, its true, i check Youtube they show it , Also it is proven thaat they can cause harm to fish, I dont think DOW would make this stuff up just for fun. YEs they probably do get alot of hype but that is because of the threat they do pose to our lakes, i dont think it would just be made up . Sorry - But Check the videos they are asexual (acording to some chinese site) and they can live on land for up to 30 hours i believe, You tube has a video of one crossing land. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted April 25, 2009 Super User Posted April 25, 2009 i feel MUCH worse for the snakehead in the video than the bass. the tank is way to small for that snakehead (can barely turn around or chase food) the tank is way underfiltered (only one HOB filter!? seriously!?) when the snakehead made its initial thrashes, did you notice the sediments it stirred up from the gravel? thats what poo looks like after it breaks down in the tank. looks like that gravel has never been vacuumed. the tank is also oxygen deprived. there is no aeration at all, and the snakead can be seen gulping air several times during the video. there is also no cover at all in the tank and the snakehead must feel stressed in such an environment. i DON'T feel bad that they put a 10" bass in there because the bass WILL get eaten, no doubt in my mind about that. its not like the bass went to waste. it was used to feed a pet. i see no wrong in that. also most of those rumors about snakeheads staying out of water for days, walking across land, asexual reproduction (seriously!? :-?) and destroying fisheries are false. they are well established in the potomac river and haven't affected the native fish populations. snakeheads get too much hype :-/ Dave, I can understand your interest in the tank design (I've seen your posts), but I wonder if this tank isn't put together specifically for blood sport. I would bet that the kids in the video have done this before. Quote
jamarkwe Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 i feel MUCH worse for the snakehead in the video than the bass. the tank is way to small for that snakehead (can barely turn around or chase food) the tank is way underfiltered (only one HOB filter!? seriously!?) when the snakehead made its initial thrashes, did you notice the sediments it stirred up from the gravel? thats what poo looks like after it breaks down in the tank. looks like that gravel has never been vacuumed. the tank is also oxygen deprived. there is no aeration at all, and the snakead can be seen gulping air several times during the video. there is also no cover at all in the tank and the snakehead must feel stressed in such an environment. i DON'T feel bad that they put a 10" bass in there because the bass WILL get eaten, no doubt in my mind about that. its not like the bass went to waste. it was used to feed a pet. i see no wrong in that. also most of those rumors about snakeheads staying out of water for days, walking across land, asexual reproduction (seriously!? :-?) and destroying fisheries are false. they are well established in the potomac river and haven't affected the native fish populations. snakeheads get too much hype :-/ He has two HOB filters. But yeah That tank is on the small side... I didn't see any sediment stired up form the gravel... I saw a clear tank until the snakehead ripped a chunk out of the LM, and then scales and blood clouded the water. That Beast would rip up and destory any type of cover you put in there. Unless it was heavy and solid, but then the fish would most likley hurt itself in a tank that small...Or even damage the tank. A stressed fish would not be that aggressive and hungry. That fish is not stressed in the least bit ... Snakeheads breath air... A snakehead could live in a stagnate mud puddle if needed be... Also The filter's are creating aeration, any movement that breaks the water surface tension will introduce oxygen in the water. -Marke Quote
shaw24 Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 i feel MUCH worse for the snakehead in the video than the bass. the tank is way to small for that snakehead (can barely turn around or chase food) the tank is way underfiltered (only one HOB filter!? seriously!?) when the snakehead made its initial thrashes, did you notice the sediments it stirred up from the gravel? thats what poo looks like after it breaks down in the tank. looks like that gravel has never been vacuumed. the tank is also oxygen deprived. there is no aeration at all, and the snakead can be seen gulping air several times during the video. there is also no cover at all in the tank and the snakehead must feel stressed in such an environment. i DON'T feel bad that they put a 10" bass in there because the bass WILL get eaten, no doubt in my mind about that. its not like the bass went to waste. it was used to feed a pet. i see no wrong in that. also most of those rumors about snakeheads staying out of water for days, walking across land, asexual reproduction (seriously!? :-?) and destroying fisheries are false. they are well established in the potomac river and haven't affected the native fish populations. snakeheads get too much hype :-/ Who gives a crap about the snakehead being in a tank thats too small! It's a trash fish that is killing our gamefish! They don't need to feed that thing a LMB to laugh about. > Quote
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