Zel Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I use frogs on two baitcast setups. (I don't care for braid) 7' Kunnan MH rod w/Cortland 20lb mono line 6'6 Berkley Lightning Rod (the older variety) MH w/Trilene XL 15lb line. Quote
Megastink Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Ok, its your call whether or not you throw braid. Honestly, i dont care for it either. But after many frustrating days on the water, i now EXCLUSIVLY throw braid with frogs. I cant stress enough the importance on braid, and heres why: NO STRETCH! Mono, like what your using, stretches. You know that. But because of the stretch, instead of counting only one second, count two LONG seconds. This will give the bass time to push all water/air out of its mouth through its gills. In conclusion, i want to say one more thing. You talked about how frustrated you are because you miss so many fish on frogs. You also made it clear that you dont like braid, but use mono instead. You say, and i quote, "I dont care for braid"... Dont you think that the source of your frustrations might be the fact that you ARENT throwing braid? Mono works, but is mildly effective. Braid EXCELS when Frog Chuckin'. My advice, give braid another shot. LEARN to love it, and in time, you will. TIGHT LINES! Quote
Zel Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 Yeah you're probably right about the braid, but after I cut my left index finger down to the bone with braid, I swore I would never use it again... and although I have spooled it up on ocassion, I'm too chicken to throw it. Quote
Megastink Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 How did you cut it? Were you trying to pull a snag? Quote
Super User Muddy Posted July 22, 2008 Author Super User Posted July 22, 2008 Hey Mega; I am very new to frogs and open to suggestions. The guy who turned me on to them is taking me out during the week for some night time froggin. He uses 17# test Trilene exclusively and his ratio is 2/5. I am confused as which way to go. I think I will stick with the mono for now, and if frustration takes me there , I will try some braid Thank you for all your input Quote
Megastink Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Hey, no problem. But honestly, i would START with the braid. My ratio is about 4/5 with it. But hey, fishing is a CONFIDENCE game: THROW WHAT YOU KNOW! Quote
Brad_Coovert Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 7'6" flipping stick and 50 lb. Power Pro has been my ticket to great frog success in heavy weeds. I still miss a fish now and then, there is no 100% hookup setup on these baits, but when I do hook 'em, they WILL come back to the boat, regardless of size of fish or thickness of grass. Braid cuts like grass better than any other line. Brad Quote
Zel Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 How did you cut it? Were you trying to pull a snag? Yup, you hit the nail on the head. Quote
Brad_Coovert Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 I had a bad snag once when fishing braid. To get it loose, I wrapped the line around a cleat on teh boat and backed up using the trolling motor. Ended up pulling the snag off the bottom. I've hurt my hands with that line as well. Now I keep a small piece of dowel rod in the boat to wrap the line around if I have to pull on it by hand. Brad Quote
Megastink Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 I think Brad got it right, tie it to the cleat of your boat. However, if no cleat (or boat) is available, then at least wrap you hand in your shirt first, then wrap the line around that.... or wrap it around a thick stick.... be creative... but definitly dont wrap it around bare skin: i have cut through watermelon rind with braided line, its tough stuff. Quote
Simp Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 BRAID! BRAID! BRAID! BRAID! BRAID! Get the picture? 30-65#, but get 50#, its good all round. Also, IMO, i use at LEAST a 7' rod, and HEAVY action. Try just counting "1 Mississippi" after you see the strike. Go to this link:http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1215907931/30 Simp had the same problem. Read the advise and reasoning i gave him. I think it may help you land some fish. Yes I did but no longer!!! I switched my main baitcaster that is a 7ft HM rod to braid a few days ago. I used the Skum frog tournament edition and landed my first bass with the lure but still lost several others. I ended up lossing that frog and decided to see if I could find the Rojos Spro frog. I was lucky enough that one of our sporting goods stores has about evrey color you could want in the Rojos Spro frog. At 9$ a pop I bough just one to see what the hook up ratio would be. The first thing I did was trim the tail to get it to walk better and then set out to go fishing. After 2 hours with it I can tell you I may never buy another frog brand again. This thing has the greatest hook ups. I landed 3 fish in about 2 hours of fishing and the only time I didn't get the fish was when it just plain missed the frog. I was ;D because we were fishing at one of our favroit ponds (it's really a small lake) that produces huge fish. Were are usually alone but today we had several outher fisherman along the bank and they weren't catching crap.Then I think they about lost it when I went back and fished a area they had just went bye and landed this solid 19inch 3lb fish. Quote
Megastink Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 CONGRADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats great to hear! Im glad you took all of our advice and went for braid and Spro Frogs. It is my personal favorite! Again, congrads, and feel free to keep posting your bass you catch! I wanna see your first 5#er on your new frog set-up! Quote
Simp Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 CONGRADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats great to hear! Im glad you took all of our advice and went for braid and Spro Frogs. It is my personal favorite! Again, congrads, and feel free to keep posting your bass you catch! I wanna see your first 5#er on your new frog set-up! I'm sure it won't take long for it to happened. I've got a couple great bodies of water that are perfect for frogs. I'm one of those guys who love top water and if I could I would fish it all day lol. I usually stay on top as long as I can and then go straight to a sexy shad crankbait. The spro frog just blew my mind on it's quality compared to other frogs I've used in the past. Now I'm just trying to decide what other colorers I should buy. ;D Quote
Megastink Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I rely on three mainly. White, black, and, well, FROG. I also like a brown and purple combo, because i throw frogs around areas where bluegills prevail as the main forage. And IMO, the is NO SUCH THING as a lake that ISNT good for frogs. Quote
Simp Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I rely on three mainly. White, black, and, well, FROG. I also like a brown and purple combo, because i throw frogs around areas where bluegills prevail as the main forage. And IMO, the is NO SUCH THING as a lake that ISNT good for frogs. I'm sure most places in NA are like that. Bluegill is a main source for food in my area as well. We often take my 9 year old nephew with us and set him up for blugill and he hammers them while we bass fish. As far as colors I was thinking of getting a black one as well. I have the "Natural Green" patterned frog and on the belly it has white and yellow with some black spots in it. They all look so pretty I don't know what to choose :'(. Rainforest Black looks good but I'm trying to figure out if some of these color patterns are meant to catch fisherman or fish ;D. Quote
Megastink Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I have 5 colors currently: - Albino (for general frogging in bright conditions) - Tropical White (for frogging in bright conditions for AGGRESSIVE bass) -Midnight (general frogging in low light [cloudy] conditions) -Rain Forest Black- (frogging for AGGRESSIVE bass in low-light conditions) -Natural Green- (clear water, "Frog-Habitat" fishing) Those are the ones i throw. They ALL catch me fish. They all work well, and im sure if you choose the right color for the current conditions, then any color will catch fish. The nexy two colors i get are gonna be Putty Black/Barney (bluegill imitations) and Neon Glow (looks like a good "shad" color for open water) SPRO also has a new Bronzeye coming out. Its a frog popper, and i may have to buy a new tacklebox just for them, because ill own EVERY color! Quote
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