Super User bilgerat Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Here is a video of a 20 cylinder EMD (Electro Motive Division) diesel engine. The one in the video is a generator, I work on ones in tugboats from time to time. Each cylinder is 645 cubic inches. Multiply that by 20 cylinders, that's 12,900 c.i.d. They are 2 cycle engines. Top RPM is 900. The tug engines are 3600 horsepower each, there are two engines in a 135' tug. The high pitch whistle you hear in the video is the turbocharger. It takes two air starters to turn it over. These engines are also widely used in freight locomotives, but usually in 12 or 16 cylinder versions. Quote
B-Dozer Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 CAN'T BELIEVE THEY AREN'T WEARING oops sorry didn't mean to yell. Can't believe they aren't wearing hearing protection Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 12, 2011 Author Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Yeah they are. If you look closely, they have foam earplugs in. Quote
B-Dozer Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Yes I see it now, think they might need something better, d**n, that must be loud being so close. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Here's what i do...pretty closely the same machines. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Here's what I work on. Large equiptment like this down to 1/4hp compressors you'd find in your refrigerator. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 12, 2011 Author Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Here's what I work on. Large equiptment like this down to 1/4hp compressors you'd find in your refrigerator. How do you do a system cleanout after a major failure like that ? That's gotta be time consuming... Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Yes I see it now, think they might need something better, d**n, that must be loud being so close. Foam earplugs typically have a higher Noise Reduction Rating than lots of ear muff style hearing protection. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Not me, but I run the same exact machines Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 12, 2011 Author Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Yes I see it now, think they might need something better, d**n, that must be loud being so close. Foam earplugs typically have a higher Noise Reduction Rating than lots of ear muff style hearing protection. You roll the foam ones up tightly between thumb and forefinger and insert them in your ears. As the foam relaxes it conforms to the shape of your ear canal. Quote
Tom H. Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Paint that bad boy Caterpillar yellow, and that would be similar to the generators I wire at work. POWER IS EVERYTHING Quote
Super User slonezp Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Here's what I work on. Large equiptment like this down to 1/4hp compressors you'd find in your refrigerator. How do you do a system cleanout after a major failure like that ? That's gotta be time consuming... Depending on the failure it could take days or weeks to do a system cleanout. A system that large will have multiple filters installed on the liquid and suction refrigerant lines. Initially we would replace the compressor (return the damaged one for rebuild)and filters and do an acid test on the oil. Then probably change out the filters on a daily basis and possibly replace the oil. Solenoid valves and metering devices may also need replacing if debris gets to them. Most importantly is try to diagnose why the compressor failed. In the video the guy said the ice rink personel kept resetting the oil safety when the unit would go down. The safety trips for a reason. What happened after the safety was reset is oil and/or liquid refrigerant "slugged" back to the compressor. A compressor can only compress gas not liquid hence the failure. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 12, 2011 Author Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Paint that bad boy Caterpillar yellow, and that would be similar to the generators I wire at work. POWER IS EVERYTHING Illinois, huh ? You must work for Scaterpillar... just teasing you. I work at a Detroit Diesel distributor. Quote
Super User Dan: Posted February 12, 2011 Super User Posted February 12, 2011 Yes I see it now, think they might need something better, d**n, that must be loud being so close. Foam earplugs typically have a higher Noise Reduction Rating than lots of ear muff style hearing protection. You roll the foam ones up tightly between thumb and forefinger and insert them in your ears. As the foam relaxes it conforms to the shape of your ear canal. yep, surprisingly the ones I've seen normally have a NRR of 30 while typical (at least for shooting) ear muff hearing protectors have NRR in the high 20s. Given that decibels are a logarithmic measurement instead of linear, that can be a substantial difference. Quote
Tom H. Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 Paint that bad boy Caterpillar yellow, and that would be similar to the generators I wire at work. POWER IS EVERYTHING Illinois, huh ? You must work for Scaterpillar... just teasing you. I work at a Detroit Diesel distributor. Actually I work for Altorfer. Which is a Cat dealership. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted February 14, 2011 Super User Posted February 14, 2011 Bill, where's the pics of those bad boy monstrosities you posted a year or two ago. Work on them or not, they were eye popping. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 14, 2011 Author Super User Posted February 14, 2011 http://www.vincelewis.net/bigengine.html One of the companies involved in this is Wartsila. A few years ago I was in Ft. Lauderdale for training and they had a facility in the same industrial park. We talked ourselves into a tour. This engine was not there, but we were actually walking around inside one of their other engines. If you've ever been on a large cruise ship, it likely had Wartsilas powering it. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted February 14, 2011 Super User Posted February 14, 2011 bilgerat, What is used as a starter to turn over an engine that large? If the starter doesn't work can you tap on it with a wrench? ;D Quote
GLADES Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 bilgerat, What is used as a starter to turn over an engine that large? If the starter doesn't work can you tap on it with a wrench? ;D Probably just wrap a rope around the flywheel and give it a pull Quote
fish-fighting-illini Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 I would think that they would be looking at vibration sensors and temp readings. No offense but the flashlight routine looks like amateur night on a very expensive piece of equipment. Quote
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