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[kbkindle]

sawed off 20 gauge  single barrell  for self defence

[Pierre]

Thats one mean looking gun

[Senkoman12]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

[Ima Bass Ninja]

What'd you do tick off a pachyderm???... ;D J/K that's a sweet looking gun!

[bassfisherjk]

Nasty!

[Dan:]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

Yeah, what happens if you miss with that one shot?

[skunked_again]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

Yeah, what happens if you miss with that one shot?

this^

still a nice looking gun. i used to carry a real short 16 ga. in the boat for snakes and such. then i switched to a .45   

[SDoolittle]

Out of curiosity, is that short barrel legal?

[SPEEDBEAD.]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

Yeah, what happens if you miss with that one shot?

Don't miss then.

You could use it as a club maybe...

[Alpster]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

Yeah, what happens if you miss with that one shot?

It seems if you are far enough away to miss with a shotgun, you are probably not in enough danger to be defensive. I would worry more about being outnumbered. In which case a clip would be desirable. Anyways it's an awesome project Ken, you do great woodwork.

Ronnie

[Grey Wolf]

Nice.

[Milton Waddams]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

[moby bass]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

Yeah, what happens if you miss with that one shot?

It seems if you are far enough away to miss with a shotgun, you are probably not in enough danger to be defensive. I would worry more about being outnumbered. In which case a clip would be desirable. Anyways it's an awesome project Ken, you do great woodwork.

Ronnie

I would guess that if one perp gets blown away by that shotgun the others are not going to stand around waiting to see if its more than a single shot.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

It's perfect for home defense though. Biggest plus, IMO, is that if you miss and your shot enters a wall the person sleeping on the other side of that wall is alot more likely to walk away.

A shotgun blast at self-defense range is also MUCH more powerful than a single projectile as well.  With multiple projectiles spreading out in a pattern, you are also more likely to hit your target in a stressful situation.  Many (if not most) may not be able to control a pistol in that situation.

[BadKarma42]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

It's perfect for home defense though. Biggest plus, IMO, is that if you miss and your shot enters a wall the person sleeping on the other side of that wall is alot more likely to walk away.A shotgun blast at self-defense range is also MUCH more powerful than a single projectile as well. With multiple projectiles spreading out in a pattern, you are also more likely to hit your target in a stressful situation. Many (if not most) may not be able to control a pistol in that situation.

Make sure you are using the right load for home defense, bubba.

As for lots of little projectiles flying around, I guess you need to decide what you want to do...stop the threat or tick them off so they leave.

Bottom line, people need to decide what they want to do and what is best for their home defense and then research appropriate ammo and become proficient with the firearm, including but not limited to an attack/defense plan, weapon proficiency, stress shooting, tactical movements, and escape planning.

[Grey Wolf]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

Don't understand your thought process , give me a shotgun for home protection anytime.

[OHIO]

A 2 year old could hit someone with buckshot, not a 9mm.

I would choose a shotgun anyday.

[Alpster]

There is a magic sound that is made when you chamber a shell in a pump action shotgun. This is usually the end of the discussion for most intruders and you rarely have to fire a shot. If you do have to fire it is highly effective. JMHO

Ronnie

[SPEEDBEAD.]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

It's perfect for home defense though. Biggest plus, IMO, is that if you miss and your shot enters a wall the person sleeping on the other side of that wall is alot more likely to walk away.A shotgun blast at self-defense range is also MUCH more powerful than a single projectile as well. With multiple projectiles spreading out in a pattern, you are also more likely to hit your target in a stressful situation. Many (if not most) may not be able to control a pistol in that situation.

Make sure you are using the right load for home defense, bubba.

As for lots of little projectiles flying around, I guess you need to decide what you want to do...stop the threat or tick them off so they leave.

Bottom line, people need to decide what they want to do and what is best for their home defense and then research appropriate ammo and become proficient with the firearm, including but not limited to an attack/defense plan, weapon proficiency, stress shooting, tactical movements, and escape planning.

What is your recommedation?

[bwell]

looks like an H&R topper.

for defense i would choose a pump or semi auto

For defense I would and do choose a pistol. A shotgun looks good but is way to cumbersome and unwieldy to use for defense.

It's perfect for home defense though. Biggest plus, IMO, is that if you miss and your shot enters a wall the person sleeping on the other side of that wall is alot more likely to walk away.A shotgun blast at self-defense range is also MUCH more powerful than a single projectile as well. With multiple projectiles spreading out in a pattern, you are also more likely to hit your target in a stressful situation. Many (if not most) may not be able to control a pistol in that situation.

Make sure you are using the right load for home defense, bubba.

As for lots of little projectiles flying around, I guess you need to decide what you want to do...stop the threat or tick them off so they leave.

Bottom line, people need to decide what they want to do and what is best for their home defense and then research appropriate ammo and become proficient with the firearm, including but not limited to an attack/defense plan, weapon proficiency, stress shooting, tactical movements, and escape planning.

What is your recommedation?

Buckshot...

[BadKarma42]

For which?

I was just reviewing this the other day.  The boss has my book and left for the day.  Kick me a e-mail in the morning and I'll send you the details.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

For which?

I was just reviewing this the other day. The boss has my book and left for the day. Kick me a e-mail in the morning and I'll send you the details.

Pistola or scattergun?

Why?

Keep in mind, everyday citizen w/ minimal training.

[BadKarma42]

As for pistol, I have switched away from a FMJ to rounds that "should" break up more should I miss and hit a wall.  I'm not sure If you can get your hands on them. 

Buy a .40 and I can help you out.

[K_Mac]

A 2 year old could hit someone with buckshot, not a 9mm.

I would choose a shotgun anyday.

A shotgun does give a little more margin of error, but this idea that you can just point in the general direction with a shot gun is dangerous. Most home invasion, self defense shooting happens up close. Load your shotgun with 00 buck shot and see what the patten is at 6-10'. I have an 18.5" open cylinder bbl on my Mossberg, and even at close range in a panic situation hitting a target is not sure thing.

[BadKarma42]

For which?

I was just reviewing this the other day. The boss has my book and left for the day. Kick me a e-mail in the morning and I'll send you the details.

Pistola or scattergun?

Why?

Keep in mind, everyday citizen w/ minimal training.

Get that rod and gun club membership and you can get some training.