Remington Model 700 CNBC Documentary

[South FLA]

Watched the CNBC documentary on the Model 700 and was a bit shocked to find out that the Model 700 has "known issues" with its trigger mechanism, by firing on bolt movement and safety movement.  Although, I was a bit skeptical at the source of the reporting when the original engineer that designed the trigger mechanism stated that it was defective and could cause misfires, it sold me on the reporter's take.

As an aside, I own a Model 700 XCR Compact Tactical with the 40x Trigger and was wondering if this mechanism is the same as those in the traditional 700 triggers and subject to misfires? Anyone know?

[lightsout]

Cant comment on the XCR, but I do own several 700's and can name a dozen hunters that have used them for decades and there has never been any issues. My grandfather left me a 6MM that has had thousands of rounds fired through it and it still works flawlessly.  There are other good rifles out there, but for the price/performance you cannot touch a Remington model 700.

My only gripe is the safetys on some of the older ones. Having to put it in the "F" posistion to work the bolt was a dumb design. I understand a kit is made to convert it to the current safety.

[bowfish12]

My dad has one in 25-06 that has misfired one time. Went to shoot a deer and nothing would happen.  Put the safety on and handed it to him and when he went to take the safety off it shot.

He bought it used and possibly the person who had it first might have tried to modify the trigger.  I don't think they showed it in the story but a lot of these misfires could be due to people modifying the trigger.

[VABassin'14]

My family has used model 700s for several generations. None of us have ever had any problems with them at all. As lightsout mentioned, the fact that you have to put the gun on fire to open the bolt on some older models is the only thing that I can possibly say negative about any model 700. I'm not saying that the report isn't valid, but I'm just saying that I'm not worried about it. Also, I don't think this should keep anyone from buying what in my mind is the best rifle series on the market.

[Dan:]

I was under the impression that the new X-Mark Pro triggers are updated to prevent misfiring.

FWIW, the original designer stated that the design is fine, it's the manufacturing that has been the problem in the past.

[burleytog]

Surely you don't believe that CNBC propaganda, do you?  They obviously have an agenda and don't care much for the truth in that hit piece.

Watch Remington's response to CNBC's BS.

FWIW, the problem is tied to kitchen table gunsmiths who think they can set their factory trigger to a low pull.

[bowfish12]

FWIW, the problem is tied to kitchen table gunsmiths who think they can set their factory trigger to a low pull.

x2  That's what I was trying to say. 

[Micro]

X3.  You get some nimrod diddling around with the trigger mechanism and screws it up and suddenly its the gun's fault. 

Trust that the vast majority of "news media," and that goes triple for any NBC division, will report negatively on any gun related issue. 

[South FLA]

Surely you don't believe that CNBC propaganda, do you? They obviously have an agenda and don't care much for the truth in that hit piece.

Watch Remington's response to CNBC's BS.

FWIW, the problem is tied to kitchen table gunsmiths who think they can set their factory trigger to a low pull.

Great video, glad I watched it, there is always two sides to every story.  I knew that trigger adjustment might have played an issue, explaining my apprehension regarding the sniper barely touching the bolt to discharge it.  Still doesn't answer the question directly about Walker's better design suggestion that wasn't implemented, but the credibility of the insider and the expert witness have been shot down in my book. Still love my Model 700 though  ;D

I also found out that the 40x trigger is different than that standard trigger, so I can leave it down at 2 1/2 lbs like I like it, it was designed to go down to 1-1/2lbs.

[IntroC]

Surely you don't believe that CNBC propaganda, do you? They obviously have an agenda and don't care much for the truth in that hit piece.

Watch Remington's response to CNBC's BS.

FWIW, the problem is tied to kitchen table gunsmiths who think they can set their factory trigger to a low pull.

I just finished watching the youtube video and have to say its hard to believe anything you hear on TV anymore. Global warming turned out to be a load of BS. After years of scientists claiming otherwise. All the news channels are basically at war with each other contradicting each others storys. Its a shame.

[fishn hard]

The far left liberal media will do any thing to give our 2nd amendment a black eye  > > >

[Fat-G]

I like the new M110 rifle. It looks promising. Good concept on a great frame. Time will tell though.

[whoopbazz]

I saw the CNBC story too. I don't think it's left wing propaganda BS. Why single out just Remington? Why not BS on multiple gun makers? There are 2 sides to every story, but I don't think CNBC made up and BS'ed anything. If it was all made up BS the liable law suit would be huge. The fact Remington has been publicly hush-hush about the story leads me to believe there may be some truth.

That being said...

My family have always bought 700's and never had any misfire issues. Once on a single digit day my 308 did not fire when a pulled the trigger. I figured it was a bad load and racked a new one in. Under the circumstances I did it rather quickly and pretty hard. The next 2 shot fired. I found out the firing pin was gummed up from the cold weather. A gun smith cleaned it and never had an issue since. That was about 20+ years ago.

Moreover, right over the mountain from my house is Hart Rifles (firearms whatever the actual name is). They build custom made guns...I've heard the best in the world by some guys. Big dollar guns. They use only Rem 700 actions in their rifles. They claim they are the best actions avalible. Now they do some "tweeking" to them.