Dalton Tam Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Ok, these scientists believe that the birds died from trauma due to new years eve fireworks. They say there is no link to the fish kill on Arkansas river. I completely disagree with this claim for the reasons that it is not known to have happened before and the same species of bird was killed. As a bassfisherman, I have witnessed more "Red" winged black birds next to the water than any other bird while fishing. If thousands of fish had died, there would have been many insects eating on the fish. This leads me to believe that the birds could have eaten some of the insects and later become sick. As a duckhunter i understand that the birds found in Ark. and Southern LA were in the same flyway for migratory birds. I believe that the birds found in Louisiana were from the same flock of birds found in Arkansas, they only made it a little further south than the others. This is my opinion I'd like to "seriously" know some of yours. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 5, 2011 Super User Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. Quote
Scorcher214 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. The thing is, they did not drop just all at once. Over a period of time more or less. The reason i dont think it is trauma is becasue they fell from the sky....Which would make it so it would show signs of trauma, am i right? And seriously, if these birds died of "fireworks" wouldn't that happen much more. If fireworks trauma is possible, why dont we see like 100000 birds just drop on the 4th of July. Mmmmmmm...somthing smells a little fishy about this whole thing. OH WAIT, 100,000 dead freshwater drum... Quote
Dalton Tam Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. Ok well I am pretty sure that people were inside their homes by about 2 o'clock on the day that the birds fell in Ark. because they were under multiple tornado warnings and I don't know why anyone would be watching for falling Red wing black birds from their windows. Ok the next problem with the firework explanation is the reason of why are they finding one particular species, The "RED" winged black bird. Idk about where you are from but there are alot more regular black birds than their are RED winged black birds. And if it were fireworks than why hasn't this happened before and why didn't it happen in a location with a great population of people. I'm pretty sure they didn't just shoot up the sky in some rinky dink country town in Arkansas. Just think about it. It's highly unlikely. Quote
1inStripes Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 As for the fish kill, haven't they all been freshwater drum so far too? Mainly a crawfish eater. Quote
Dalton Tam Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 As for the fish kill, haven't they all been freshwater drum so far too? Mainly a crawfish eater. The type of fish doesn't matter does it. They all decompose the same way and insects aren't picky about what they eat. Just saying that it is an odd coincidence that I'm not saying is facts but the fact that one particular species of bird has fell from the sky in two locations of the United States is very scary and I seriously doubt it was fireworks. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 5, 2011 Super User Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. The thing is, they did not drop just all at once. Over a period of time more or less. The reason i dont think it is trauma is becasue they fell from the sky....Which would make it so it would show signs of trauma, am i right? And seriously, if these birds died of "fireworks" wouldn't that happen much more. If fireworks trauma is possible, why dont we see like 100000 birds just drop on the 4th of July. Mmmmmmm...somthing smells a little fishy about this whole thing. OH WAIT, 100,000 dead freshwater drum... The reports I heard said approx 6000 birds dropped from the sky and it sounded like hail hitting the ground. I had also herd there were either municipal or private fireworks being blown off. As I stated in my original post, millions of birds are roosting together to keep warm this time of year. This does not happen during the summer because of the warm weather. Or it could be the begining of the Rapture :-/ Quote
Dalton Tam Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. The thing is, they did not drop just all at once. Over a period of time more or less. The reason i dont think it is trauma is becasue they fell from the sky....Which would make it so it would show signs of trauma, am i right? And seriously, if these birds died of "fireworks" wouldn't that happen much more. If fireworks trauma is possible, why dont we see like 100000 birds just drop on the 4th of July. Mmmmmmm...somthing smells a little fishy about this whole thing. OH WAIT, 100,000 dead freshwater drum... The reports I heard said approx 6000 birds dropped from the sky and it sounded like hail hitting the ground. I had also herd there were either municipal or private fireworks being blown off. As I stated in my original post, millions of birds are roosting together to keep warm this time of year. This does not happen during the summer because of the warm weather. Or it could be the begining of the Rapture :-/ Better get your heart right Idk... all I know is that it supposedly has never happened before and it has happened twice in one week. Just dont seem normal IMO Quote
1inStripes Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 As for the fish kill, haven't they all been freshwater drum so far too? Mainly a crawfish eater. The type of fish doesn't matter does it. They all decompose the same way and insects aren't picky about what they eat. Just saying that it is an odd coincidence that I'm not saying is facts but the fact that one particular species of bird has fell from the sky in two locations of the United States is very scary and I seriously doubt it was fireworks. My apologies. Miss understood your post. I thought you were saying the fish and birds may have eaten the same thing (insects). Drum are not a species I think of to often for picking bugs and larvae off the service. More of a bottom feeder. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted January 5, 2011 Super User Posted January 5, 2011 I'm not aware of a fish kill but the fact that the birds all dropped at the same time, to me, makes the trauma theory believable. Whether it was fireworks, or powerlines, or whatever. This time of year the birds get in flocks of millions to keep warm and provide protection from predators. If they were roosting on the ground and a predator or fireworks spooked them and the birds ran into powerlines or something else(birds don't fly at night because they can't see well in the dark) seems alot more plausible than eating bad bugs. The thing is, they did not drop just all at once. Over a period of time more or less. The reason i dont think it is trauma is becasue they fell from the sky....Which would make it so it would show signs of trauma, am i right? And seriously, if these birds died of "fireworks" wouldn't that happen much more. If fireworks trauma is possible, why dont we see like 100000 birds just drop on the 4th of July. Mmmmmmm...somthing smells a little fishy about this whole thing. OH WAIT, 100,000 dead freshwater drum... The reports I heard said approx 6000 birds dropped from the sky and it sounded like hail hitting the ground. I had also herd there were either municipal or private fireworks being blown off. As I stated in my original post, millions of birds are roosting together to keep warm this time of year. This does not happen during the summer because of the warm weather. Or it could be the begining of the Rapture :-/ Better get your heart right Idk... all I know is that it supposedly has never happened before and it has happened twice in one week. Just dont seem normal IMO "Only the Shadow knows." Quote
NateFollmer Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 They just found more in Maryland and New Zealand.... I think it's because this weather is changing so quickly... First it's warm for a few days, then its dropping 20 degrees+ for a week or so... Probably screwing with the wildlife... but what do I know? Quote
tyrius. Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Idk... all I know is that it supposedly has never happened before It has happened before. Quote
NateFollmer Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/web0105-dead-animals1.jpg There's a map of all the happenings. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted January 5, 2011 Super User Posted January 5, 2011 ChemTrail conspiracy anyone? I also thought I read somewhere that sometimes animals commit suicide im mass numbers to control population. I may be wrong though. Quote
NateFollmer Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Add 40,000 crabs to the list... just washed up in England. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted January 5, 2011 Super User Posted January 5, 2011 Add 40,000 crabs to the list... just washed up in England. That was a shipment for the jilted ex lovers Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted January 6, 2011 Super User Posted January 6, 2011 i read a bird crapped on chuck norris and this is what happened. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted January 6, 2011 Super User Posted January 6, 2011 ChemTrail conspiracy anyone? I also thought I read somewhere that sometimes animals commit suicide im mass numbers to control population. I may be wrong though. This is what I believe is the reason for everything dying off in mass numbers. I believe that our government is involved with all of these mass deaths. No matter what the reason is as to why this is happening, it is still scary. Please enlighten us about your reasoning. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted January 7, 2011 Super User Posted January 7, 2011 Chill everybody. All of this is media manipulation. Mass deaths occur frequently. It's all media hype. This is a list of current mass kills. http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/mortality_events/ongoing.jsp Stop with the conspiracy theories. :-X Quote
Scorcher214 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 ChemTrail conspiracy anyone? I also thought I read somewhere that sometimes animals commit suicide im mass numbers to control population. I may be wrong though. This is what I believe is the reason for everything dying off in mass numbers. I believe that our government is involved with all of these mass deaths. No matter what the reason is as to why this is happening, it is still scary. Not gonna get into it for there is no discussion of politics or watever : Anyways, mass die offs of fish i know are not unusual, and i did look at the list of mass die offs. Did not know that. The main theory seems to be that the deaths are coming from fireworks (did they get directly hit?), while the bird were flying.....at night, which they do not do. Because black birds are not nocturnal. So even if they roost together in the winter in large numbers. why dont lots of birds die on 4th of July, just scattered around all over the place instead of one place? Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted January 8, 2011 Super User Posted January 8, 2011 Please, look at actual science and facts before accusing the government. Quote
bmadd Posted January 8, 2011 Posted January 8, 2011 Please, look at actual science and facts before accusing the government. Why? It's so much more fun this way! Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted January 8, 2011 Super User Posted January 8, 2011 No conspiracy theory here; could this be responsible? http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/07/magnetic-north-pole-shift-affects-tampa-airport/ Quote
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