Are colleges educating student athletes?

[Tin]

After listening to the speaking skills of Cam Newton in the ESPN interview I's has to wonder dis. The same question comes up with athletes like Randy Moss. Then there are athletes like Donovan McNabb, who is on the Board of Trustee's at Syracuse.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

It's all about three things:

1. What will the program let you get away with.

2. What will the program do to keep you eligible.

3. What you are willing to put into your studies when you realize a living will not be made playing sports.

[Tin]

It's crazy that some speak broken English and some go back to get an MBA or Masters.

[bocabasser]

After listening to the speaking skills of Cam Newton in the ESPN interview I's has to wonder dis. The same question comes up with athletes like Randy Moss. Then there are athletes like Donovan McNabb, who is on the Board of Trustee's at Syracuse.

here are the top 10 BCS ranked teams graduation rate:

1. Stanford 86%

2. Miami Fl. 81%

3. Iowa 79%

4. VT 79%

5. TCU 71%

6. Missouri 71%

7. Nebraska 68%

8. Alabama 67%

9. LSU 67%

10. Nevada 65%

I have no idea what some of these students majored in (for all I know it was underwater basketweaving), but I agree, most athletes cannot speak proper english. I cringe sometimes when I hear some of the words that come out of an athletes mouth as they are being interviewed. Scary.

[ROCbass]

To be sure, lots of student athletes don't take their studies very seriously and do the minimum required to keep their spot on the team. That said, the dialect a person speaks is highly indicative of the culture they were raised in and has little to do with their intelligence or education level.

[Tin]

That said, the dialect a person speaks is highly indicative of the culture they were raised in and has little to do with their intelligence or education level.

I can agree with that but what about public image for the University?

Also, I'm talking about accents or dialects. When someone is not making his or her verbs agree with nouns or pronouns. That is a reflection of education level or intelligence in my opinion.

[Hookemdown.]

Students who don't want an education don't deserve an education.

Student athletes have been given a great opportunity.  Some choose to take advantage of it.  Some abuse it.  If an athlete chooses to only work hard enough to stay eligible, then more power to him.  He's only hurting himself.  I really don't see that colleges have a "duty" to educate student athletes.  We all have a duty to educate ourselves.

The main problems come about when universities start to falsify documents in order to keep them eligible.

[Tin]

The main problems come about when universities start to falsify documents in order to keep them eligible.

If anyone else besides an athlete tried handing in two papers who were other students with your name on them or got caught buying a paper off the internet they would have been expelled after the second. Never-mind being on possession of someone else's computer.

[whoopbazz]

Along a similar line. My son is one hell of a soccer player, he is only 12. He has dreams of playing division 1 soccer. This is truly in his grasp if he keeps going at his present rate. So we have spoken with college atheletes about grades and going to college to play sports. This general consesus is this.

Now keep in mind there is virtually no such thing as a soccer sholarship. Most of the players were football players.

If your grades aren't there you will be passed over for a sholarship. You need to be a "one in a million" type player to get that ride with poor grades. And in the event of soccer, where you are recruited to come to play (keep in mind no scholarship, just asking you to "choose us"), lousy grades no recruiting.

A schools money to give out is too valuable to give to some player to flunk out, when they can give it to a player who make good grades.

Now that being said...I better go kick my kid in the butt and get him studying....LOL

[Hookemdown.]

Exactly.  SA's should be treated like the other students.

I had a friend that went to the University of Arkansas and had a few classes with some of the football players.  He said they NEVER came to class.  (I think he only saw them once.)  Yet somehow they still passed the classes.  Crap like this and the stuff you mentioned are inexcusable.  They might not have a duty to necessarily educate the SA, but they definitely have the responsibility to give them equal treatment.

[SirSnookalot]

most couldn't tie their own shoes without the aid of velcro, but there are exceptions, like this guy...certainly no average player either.

http://www.mncourts.gov/?ID=30009&page=31

[Tin]

Up here each athlete has a grad student/ undergrad T.A. assigned to them for each subject to privately tutor them 4-5 days a week not to mention any prof's office hours.

The reason I'm made this thread was because I was asked to help out next semester and said "No, thanks", because I have enough to do. I was given the schedules of a few potential people to work with, they really only have athletic stuff to do four to five hours a day. I was compelled to ask if anyone who works part or full time could also be assigned one. :

[GTrombly]

A lot of these athletes don't really care about school. They are there to get bigger and mature for the nfl. You can't get drafted till you are 21 i believe. They don't really need an education if they are going to be making millions. Chris Johnson is the worst.

[GTrombly]

Tin what school are you talking about?

[Root beer]

Athletes like Cam loves street talk they disregard anything in English class. Here a conversation from The Family Guy:

(The family is coming back from the basketball game)

Peter: Hey nice job Chris! You wiped the floor with that towel!

Chris: Yeah did you see me when that hottie was all up im ma kool aid!? Yeah I was about to break off a lil' somthin somthin but then my crew gave me the 411 on that skank and shes all about the bling-bling!

(Peter slams on the breaks)

Peter: Meg start reading at Pslam 41 and don't stop! The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you! (While Peter is squirting holy water in Chris's eyes)

Lois: Peter what on earth are you doing?!

Peter: The boy is speaking in tongues Lois!

The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you!

Lois: Peter stop it! He's not possessed!

Meg: Yeah he's just talking street. A lot of kids do it.

Peter: Oh. Well that's weird.