Siebert Outdoors Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 This site gives five rules for concealed carry, but I think it's relevant here: http://www.firearmstactical.com/index.htm Yup, and you also have to realize you might win in a criminal case but the whole family of the person you shot will come after you with lawsuits. Even if the guy was trying to kill you. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted August 9, 2010 Super User Posted August 9, 2010 GMAN the idea that you MIGHT win a criminal case is a powerful reason to leave law enforcement to the pros IMO unless ability, opportunity, and intent are present. Quote
farmpond1 Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 If I arrive home and I observe that an intruder is inside my home, I'm not going to venture inside and place myself in harms way. I'll call the police and wait for them to handle it. However, if I am already in my home and I find someone has illegally entered my home, if I have the means, I'm not going to wait around to find out what harm he intends to cause. I'll order him (her) to lay down on their stomachs and if they refuse and/or aren't immediately heading for the door, well, I'm not going to "wing" the sucker. Police (who do regular target practice) are instructed to aim at the main body mass and I would do the same. Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 9, 2010 Super User Posted August 9, 2010 A shotgun loaded with rock salt and glass would sure work very well and not injure the person very badly. A bean bag gun also works really well. ;D And neither involves deadly force. If I feel that my family lives are in jeopardy then that is the only time I would consider using deadly force. Later, Shooting bean bags at us latinos don 't work , we 'll be back for more bean bags. Well, I have to say this, law enforcement gadget developers ( and even some may be latino but they kinda forget it : ) sometimes they ain 't too bright, why ? cuz they develop stuff that work on anglos but don 't work on us latinos or brothers, let 's take another example: taser guns; boy they do work on anglos but on us latinos or brothers ? ....... uhhh, nope ! Why ? Cuz when you are latino or brother most of the times you grow poor, and when you grow poor you get electro shocked by s*t all the time, haven 't anglo 's seen our houses ? look at the electric outlets, we got the TV, fridge, iron, 2/3 or 4 lamps conected to one oultet, electrical safety codes ? yeah... right ! : So, taser guns: Law enforcement officer: FREEZE !!!!! Latino or brother: Yeah .... right ! Law enforcemt officer: FREEZE !!! OR I 'LL TASE YOU !!! Latino or brother: give it to meeeee !!! Law enforcment tases latino or brother, latino or brother ( sahking as the gazillion volts run through his body )---> dang! it don 't sting more than that time when I plugged in the Christmas tree to that already way overloaded electrical outlet. Tear gas ? on us latinos or brothers ? yeah, right. It ain 't nuthin ' when compared to them digestive gasses after having a decent soul or latino meal, that gas will make you surrender immediately, we ? oh, we are used to it, actually we make fart contests. Quote
Scorcher214 Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh thats good stuff Raul. Anyways, i would not shoot somebody running off with my t.v. If there is a dude IN MY HOUSE? That will change whether i shoot him or not. The thing is i wouldn't know if he had a weapon. If i saw anything that resembled a gun i might shoot. This is all what comes to mind. I don't actually own a gun but have put in though for a concealed weapons permit. Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 BTW, we latinos or brothers don 't fear guns FYI, why ? cuz when you 're latino or brother you grow up in the 'hood, you got any idea how high are the probabilities of getting shot when walk/drive around the 'hood ? all I can tell you is that they are very high so .... there you are walking to the store and BANG ! .... s*t happens. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 BTW, we latinos or brothers don 't fear guns FYI, why ? cuz when you 're latino or brother you grow up in the 'hood, you got any idea how high are the probabilities of getting shot when walk/drive around the 'hood ? all I can tell you is that they are very high so .... there you are walking to the store and BANG ! .... s*t happens. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 Raul, you might wanna look at some YouTube vid's of latino's, and brutha's gettin tazed... Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 Click Click Boom Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 HO LEE S_ _ T Photoshop of the year. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 Raul ain't got no legs! He's wearing his 'hood issued Urban Camo. Legs are there, you just can't see them. Quote
MattinOK Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 This thread's pictures... PWN!!! ;D ;D ;D Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 That is just Hilarious.. ;D Quote
Super User grimlin Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 @ speedbead post. Man i needed a good laugh! Quote
Big Tom Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 @ speedbead post. Man i needed a good laugh! No kiddin' ;D ;D ;D SPEEDBEAD, Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 Holy cow, man that 's just too funny ! ;D ;D ;D Quote
brushhoggin Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 ok i'm crying, people at work think i've gone off the deep end, that picture really messed me up. is that you Raul? Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 Yup, that 's me holding the bass and in companion of the brothers. Speaking about tazing, down here where I live the city every year celebrates it 's foundation date with a fair that lasts a month, obvioulsy you just gotta go, and there are these people that make a living by charging you a small fee for the pleasure of being electrocuted with these portable devices, so it kinda becomes like a manhood contest amogst the youngsters, who can take more voltage for the longest time, sort of a higher tech version of bull riding. The loser pays the fee, plus whatever you might think the bet can be ( a round of drinks or the entrances for the **** fights, n 'such ) So the deal here is, physically I 'm as far away from Charles Atlas as we are from the nearest galaxy, I 'm not too tall, not too muscular, not too heavy, there used to be this guy that was completley the opposite which was a friend of a friend of mine, I didn 't like him much and really I avoided him as much as I can, why ? because he was verbally and physically abusive too me. Then one day I agreed to meet my friend at a bar in the fair and when I arrived there was this guy, should have walked away but I didn 't, this time I was going to get even my way, the opportunity was there and I was going to take it, knowing that his alpha male behaviour was one of his weaknesses I took advantage of it, we took a few drinks and went walking around the fair when I saw one of the guys I was talking about, I challenged this guy for a round of shocks; so there we were, my turn first, I grabbed the electrodes and the man turned on the device, needless to say I imediately surrendered, as you can imagine the bully made all sorts of remarks about my weakness/wussiness; his turn, he grabbed the electrodes and began the punishment, more voltage, more voltage, more voltage .... he contorted like when you drop salt ona slug, eyes popping out, mouth shut tight ( maybe to avoid the metal filling in his teeth from popping off ), man I swear I could see smoke coming from the top of his head but he just didn 't go them electrodes, after a while of punishment he finally released the electrodes. Ok, so I lost the electrocution fee, I lost a round of drinks ( the bet ) but man, the pleasure of seeing him getting electrocuted was well worth the money. A few days later I saw him again, as you can imagine he immediatley refered to that event where he beat me to which I replied, " are you shure you beat me ? " , he just got the I don't understand ? face, " you didn 't beat me at all, the truth is that you lost, it was you contorting like salted slug, it was you the one in pain; beware of the Greeks bearing gifts ", after a while ( the time necessary for irony to permeate through a thick skull ) he just laughed like crazy, he finally understood that the joke was on him, he 's muscles, I 'm brain. After that he never behave abusive with me anymore. Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted August 10, 2010 Super User Posted August 10, 2010 If the situation warrants the pulling of a weapon it needs to be fired. Many people think just showing it will scare an intruder away. Exactly the opposite usually happens. The intruder will take it from someone that hesitates and use it on them. All this talk about showing the weapon or shooting to wound the intruder is crap. A person strung out on drugs will hardly notice. If you don't have the b---s to pull the trigger and aim for the body mass you have no business owning a gun. It will just get you injured or killed. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted August 11, 2010 Super User Posted August 11, 2010 Call Joe Horn in Pasadena Texas and get his thoughts. He killed one stealing his neighbors stuff and was never charged. He was judge, juror, and carried out the sentence in his neighbor's yard while talking to the 911 operator. Texas has it right with there laws! It sucks that the laws in most places victimize you as much as criminals. Joe Horn made his area safer and I am willing to bet burglaries are down after the shooting. Allen Quote
BadKarma42 Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 Very nice Speedbead! Its one thing to carry a gun and feel tough. Its another thing to actually have the debate with yourself about what you are truly willing to do. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 11, 2010 Super User Posted August 11, 2010 Raul: GREAT STORY! Quote
Scorcher214 Posted August 11, 2010 Posted August 11, 2010 LoL, Big Tom's avatar made me try to get the fly off my screen.... Quote
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