Tx Bass Fisherman Outruns Pirates-Watch Video

[J Francho]

As for shoot to wing someone I'll admit its not for the average Joe, but to say it only happens in movies is incorrect. I've heard of it being done to disarm people or stop them from getting away, and both in real life situations. Of course you have to be very very good with a gun to do it and its only suggested for pros. I fully understand that a gun is meant to kill, I live in a small town in Texas, most kids around here own at lest two guns by the time they are 12. I never said I would shoot to wing someone. I was only pointing out to J that their are other options than shooting to kill.

And here is something my gun class teach once asked me. If your shooting to kill, lets say you hit the guy but he's not dead what do you do now? 

Deciding to take someones life even in self defense is not something to be taken lightly.

That's a bunch of nonsense.

[fishfordollars]

As for shoot to wing someone I'll admit its not for the average Joe, but to say it only happens in movies is incorrect. I've heard of it being done to disarm people or stop them from getting away, and both in real life situations. Of course you have to be very very good with a gun to do it and its only suggested for pros. I fully understand that a gun is meant to kill, I live in a small town in Texas, most kids around here own at lest two guns by the time they are 12. I never said I would shoot to wing someone. I was only pointing out to J that their are other options than shooting to kill.

And here is something my gun class teach once asked me. If your shooting to kill, lets say you hit the guy but he's not dead what do you do now?

Deciding to take someones life even in self defense is not something to be taken lightly.

That's a bunch of nonsense.

Not really

[J Francho]

Deciding to take someones life even in self defense is not something to be taken lightly.

This one really blows my mind.....someone is trying to kill you, and you want to ponder whether they deserve to die for that? Tell you what, I'm actually against capital punishment, but this is a freaking no brainer, LMAO.

[fishfordollars]

Deciding to take someones life even in self defense is not something to be taken lightly.

This one really blows my mind.....someone is trying to kill you, and you want to ponder whether they deserve to die for that? Tell you what, I'm actually against capital punishment, but this is a freaking no brainer, LMAO.

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[Stasher1]

As for shoot to wing someone I'll admit its not for the average Joe, but to say it only happens in movies is incorrect. I've heard of it being done to disarm people or stop them from getting away, and both in real life situations. Of course you have to be very very good with a gun to do it and its only suggested for pros. I fully understand that a gun is meant to kill, I live in a small town in Texas, most kids around here own at lest two guns by the time they are 12. I never said I would shoot to wing someone. I was only pointing out to J that their are other options than shooting to kill.

Absolute, 100% BS. The ONLY time you draw a weapon on another person is when you are in fear for your life or the life of another. Period, end of story. If you draw your weapon for any other reason, or "shoot to maim", you will face criminal charges for assault with a deadly weapon, or at the very least, brandishing.

And here is something my gun class teach once asked me. If your shooting to kill, lets say you hit the guy but he's not dead what do you do now? 

Deciding to take someones life even in self defense is not something to be taken lightly.

I find it very difficult to believe that you have had ANY firearms training at all if you believe it's ok to "wing" someone.  :

If you fire upon someone in self-defense, you fire until the target is no longer a threat.

[1inStripes]

If you fire upon someone in self-defense, you fire until the target is no longer a threat.

Then you fire a few more times just to make sure.

Also, Captain Obvious, Jack Bauer winged people when it was necessary.  You my friend are no Jack Bauer.

[Captain Obvious]

Hold up guys I never said it was ok to wing someone.

All I said was that winging is an alternative to shooting to kill. J said it he laughed when people said shoot to kill. I said that you can also shoot to wing or scare. I never once said it was ok or that I would do it. Go back and you will find that I was the first guy who said he would shoot to kill.

I also never claimed to be a great shot. Please guys pay attention to the wording and you'll see I never said I would shoot to wing someone or scare a person. If it sounded like I was implying that I'm sorry but I wasn't

I'd also like to point out that even our men over seas don't kill wounded enemies unless their still firing back.

If you telling me that if by accident you wing a guy when you meant to kill him. And this person is out, and is unable to hurt you anymore. Would go up to that man and "Finish the Job"?      

[Micro]

We don't have narco-bandits in Virginia, but I go armed nonetheless.  I usually carry my stainless .357 and with several speed loaders nearby.  If I fished Falcon Lake, I'd carry an AR with several 30 round magazines. 

[fishfordollars]

Ok, everyone take a deep breath. It's not the old west down there. Granted it can be dangerous; however, if you just stay over on the Texas side and stay aware of your surroundings you will be fine. They are increasing the number of officers. Had several friends that just returned from a four day trip. They caught a ton of fish, stayed on the Texas side, and had absolutely no problem.

I'm going back down for the state tournament in September and unless i am told otherwise I have no issues with going back down there.

Will I be packing when I hit the water? No, if I'm stupid enough to get ambushed, they can have what they want, I'll live to replace it and fish another day.

[Grey Wolf]

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tyrius.]

Will I be packing when I hit the water? No, if I'm stupid enough to get ambushed, they can have what they want, I'll live to replace it and fish another day.

Seriously!  Who's fishing stuff is important enough to risk getting shot over? 

For the Rambo's here your single pistol is not going to be worth pulling out when you're faced with multiple AK 47's. 

[llPa1nll]

Will I be packing when I hit the water? No, if I'm stupid enough to get ambushed, they can have what they want, I'll live to replace it and fish another day.

Seriously! Who's fishing stuff is important enough to risk getting shot over?

For the Rambo's here your single pistol is not going to be worth pulling out when you're faced with multiple AK 47's.

I see tyrius is still bringing some wisdom to the discussion, well done...

:)

[Siebert Outdoors]

Taking a pistol to a gun fight is not a good idea. A pistol is only good to fight your way back to your rifle.

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[Raul]

Narco bandits carry big guns, usually automatic rifles or submachineguns not your grandpaw 's shotgun, usually it 's not one narco bandit but several so that means several guns, normally their intent is to rob you not to kill you, so there you are feeling all full of it inpowred because you are carrying a gun, dude, you ain 't Chuck Norris, you are outnumbered and outgunned, in a macho act of stupid bravery you pull out your gun to "protect" yourself from them narco bandits and what was only a robbery pretty much becomes an encounter at the OK Corral with you as target.

Let them take the boat, the gear and let your insurance company deal with it, no boat or gear is worth your life.

[Grey Wolf]

Narco bandits carry big guns, usually automatic rifles or submachineguns not your grandpaw 's shotgun, usually it 's not one narco bandit but several so that means several guns, normally their intent is to rob you not to kill you, so there you are feeling all full of it inpowred because you are carrying a gun, dude, you ain 't Chuck Norris, you are outnumbered and outgunned, in a macho act of stupid bravery you pull out your gun to "protect" yourself from them narco bandits and what was only a robbery pretty much becomes an encounter at the OK Corral with you as target.

Let them take the boat, the gear and let your insurance company deal with it, no boat or gear is worth your life.

Finally some common sense !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bowfish12]

dude, you ain 't Chuck Norris

That's why Chuck would be in my boat. To roundhouse kick their *** to last week.

[Micro]

You lose your boat over the border, your insurance isn't going to cover it.  Keep that in mind. 

[fishfordollars]

You lose your boat over the border, your insurance isn't going to cover it. Keep that in mind.

That's not so. My policy has a milage limit to travel across the border and a set number of miles I am allowed to travel out in the gulf

[Matt Fly]

Pretty dumb for crossing over to the Mexican side, US authorities can't cross to help you out no matter what goes down.

This is why I am against any money being spent out of the tax payers dollars for improving fishing on our 2 border lakes.   

         

[frogtog]

I have looked for ever and can not find the film... I have searched the page and it's not there. Where are yall looking? :

[Sfritr]

I think you all are looking at only the negatives here.   Think about the millions of dollars that can now be generated by the outboard manufacturers in advertising:

Evinrude Etec:  No scheduled maintanance for 3 years AND you can outrun even the quickest pirate while saving money on gas...... :

Mercury:         Phantom Black, like a pirate flag......   KVD " My Vorado got me away from the pirates quicker than even I expected".

Yamaha:         The Vmax is a pirate killer,  and quiet so you can hear the pirates coming

Millions I tell you.............................................

[fishfordollars]

I think you all are looking at only the negatives here. Think about the millions of dollars that can now be generated by the outboard manufacturers in advertising:

Evinrude Etec: No scheduled maintanance for 3 years AND you can outrun even the quickest pirate while saving money on gas...... :

Mercury: Phantom Black, like a pirate flag...... KVD " My Vorado got me away from the pirates quicker than even I expected".

Yamaha: The Vmax is a pirate killer, and quiet so you can hear the pirates coming

Millions I tell you.............................................

Don't forget the gun industry. If someone mowes down a few pirates they will then lay claim as the gun that tamed the border.

Billions to be made.

[done]

Narco bandits carry big guns, usually automatic rifles or submachineguns not your grandpaw 's shotgun, usually it 's not one narco bandit but several so that means several guns, normally their intent is to rob you not to kill you, so there you are feeling all full of it inpowred because you are carrying a gun, dude, you ain 't Chuck Norris, you are outnumbered and outgunned, in a macho act of stupid bravery you pull out your gun to "protect" yourself from them narco bandits and what was only a robbery pretty much becomes an encounter at the OK Corral with you as target.

Let them take the boat, the gear and let your insurance company deal with it, no boat or gear is worth your life.

The assumption you make here is that once these honorable narco's have taken your boat, they will leave you alive. Personally, I would not want to put my life in the hands of their honor.

That being said y'all said a couple very important things. 1. DO NOT GO TO MEXICO. Since I started carrying I push even more to avoid circumstance that will necessitate the use of my firearm. Second, I would not advocate a stand-off gun battle but if you are running at high speed returning fire on them, they are likely to just decide you are not worth the effort. These types always prefer soft targets.

That being said, one more reason I am glad I am on Wylie. Crossing the border here means I see a "SC" on the side of the wardens boat instead of an "NC".

[Jaheff]

I will never take a gun class. Take a gun class and something happens, any half *** defense attorney has you by the balls... "You have taken a gun class, Mr. Smith? What did they teach you?" Play dumb!

[fishfordollars]

If ya'll want to read the reports from the lake go to: www.falconlaketackle.com

Click the link on the left titled : FLT Flash Fishing Reports. Read the may 25th report and several of the others and it will give you the local reports. These people have actually gone into Mexico to rescue several stranded fishermen.