carry firearms while fishing?

[burleytog]

some of the ramps that I know of have routine patrols by local law enforcement.

Unless they are there 24/7, patrols don't help a lot.

One of the ramps I spoke of earlier is about 5 miles from the VA/KY state line.  Secluded to say the least.  It is patrolled somewhat regularly.  That still doesn't stop a lot of the problems that contribute to the location's reputation.

I know of one TVA ramp that gets patrolled every 2-3 hours by the TVA.  While I've never had any problems there, I've heard of people coming in after a night of fishing to find their truck missing.

[Dan:]

some of the ramps that I know of have routine patrols by local law enforcement.

Unless they are there 24/7, patrols don't help a lot.

One of the ramps I spoke of earlier is about 5 miles from the VA/KY state line. Secluded to say the least. It is patrolled somewhat regularly. That still doesn't stop a lot of the problems that contribute to the location's reputation.

I know of one TVA ramp that gets patrolled every 2-3 hours by the TVA. While I've never had any problems there, I've heard of people coming in after a night of fishing to find their truck missing.

I know of one on a creek arm of the P'mac that is reportedly patrolled by the local sheriffs every 15-20 minutes, but of course I know most ramps are not. If I had a boat, I'd probably look at getting a piece too.

[burleytog]

The thing is, even if a ramp is patrolled every 15-20 minutes, that still leaves 10-15 minutes for shenanigans.

A friend's dad had his truck stolen from inside his employer's gate.  People rolled in, told the guard they were there to pick up a friend's truck, he let them in. 

The police can't be there 24/7.  Arming yourself means you are taking responsibility for your own protection.

[Dan:]

The thing is, even if a ramp is patrolled every 15-20 minutes, that still leaves 10-15 minutes for shenanigans.

A friend's dad had his truck stolen from inside his employer's gate. People rolled in, told the guard they were there to pick up a friend's truck, he let them in.

The police can't be there 24/7. Arming yourself means you are taking responsibility for your own protection.

yeah but having those patrols would keep me from worrying too much about my vehicle sitting at the ramp for hours while I'm fishing.

[burleytog]

The thing is, even if a ramp is patrolled every 15-20 minutes, that still leaves 10-15 minutes for shenanigans.

A friend's dad had his truck stolen from inside his employer's gate. People rolled in, told the guard they were there to pick up a friend's truck, he let them in.

The police can't be there 24/7. Arming yourself means you are taking responsibility for your own protection.

yeah but having those patrols would keep me from worrying too much about my vehicle sitting at the ramp for hours while I'm fishing.

That is true and one reason why I tend to fish one lake most of the time (the aforementioned TVA ramp/lake). The only true knock on that particular ramp is the lack of a john and the constant lingering stench of urine.

And the packs of coons.

[VolFan]

I'm not against carrying by any stretch, but if the gun is with you in the boat, how is it keeping you from getting your truck stolen?

[FL Knifemaker]

I'm not against carrying by any stretch, but if the gun is with you in the boat, how is it keeping you from getting your truck stolen?

If I managed to get back to the boat ramp before the cops got there, my truck might not actually get stolen  

[FL Knifemaker]

Ya.......besides Colts, Springers are the favored platform for the custom guys to build on. I have two older modded Para P14's that are my main shooters. I also shoot CZ 97B's converted to single action.

Some years ago I had a Para P14 made in Canada. I liked it, but never really loved it. It had some failure-to-feed issues and sometimes the slide failed to lock back on en ampty magazine. It was accurate. I ended up selling it. Never went back to Para.

I have fallen in love with CZ. CZs are among the least well known great pistols on the market. I have a CZ83 .380 which is not only extremely well built, it's exceptiopnally accurate. I rate it a better pistol than the Walther PPK/S and two Beretta Cheetahs I've owned.

I also have a CZ75 Compact in 9mm which I carry quite a bit. With the steel frame, recoil is negligible. It's been 100% reliable and is uper accurate.

The Czechs build very good guns, indeed. The CZ97B (possibly CZ97BD) is on my very short-list to buy.

I really love the 97B's. They fit my hand and always shoot exactly where I point them.......and they seem to naturally point where I want my round to go.

I've bought my wife some serious guns over the years including 2 H&K P7's. She always goes back to and LOVES her CZ75. We also have an 85 "Combat" and a .22 rifle. Love the CZ's. I always stop by their booth at the SHOT Show to see what's new. Great people behind the guns as well.

[done]

I'm not against carrying by any stretch, but if the gun is with you in the boat, how is it keeping you from getting your truck stolen?

Really it doesn't. I do not know about other states but in NC it is never legal to use your weapon to protect property. It is considered use of deadly force as soon as you point the weapon at them. You point it as someone stealing your truck and you can be charged.

Our ramp is patrolled regularly and the citations issued for those illegally there I am sure give the dept a lot of cash.

Honestly, the best insurance against a break in. I leave the truck locked, but I leave everything inside open (the middle console, back end, etc and empty. In short, unless they want the truck itself (which is not particularly valuable as trucks go) they can plainly see there is nothing of value in there. To date it has served me well.

Honestly though, robbing a fisherman is a bad idea. At the least they will have a knife on them. From this thread, a lot of them are armed. Seems like you'd be beter going to Walmart or some department store for a "soft" target for a planned robbery.

Which to me, odds are, if you are going to be hit at the ramp, it is going to most likely be by a drunk good ol' boy looking to start something. There are 3 ramps really near me. The other 2 are dirt, no lighting at all, off country roads far from any normal patrol area (in unincorporated parts of the county) and there are always problems at those areas at night. Even boating past them, from the lake they look like trash dumps with beer cans all over the place. The ramp I hit up is pretty well lit, paved and within city limits so they are patrolled by city and county LEOs. While it is not perfect,still the best real option for me.

BTW those gun pics are AWESOME!! That must be a nice camera. If I got mine that close to my gun I would get a picture of a black blur.

[Taylor Fishin 4 life]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse   

[FL Knifemaker]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??   

[Micro]

I really love the 97B's. They fit my hand and always shoot exactly where I point them.......and they seem to naturally point where I want my round to go.

I've bought my wife some serious guns over the years including 2 H&K P7's. She always goes back to and LOVES her CZ75. We also have an 85 "Combat" and a .22 rifle. Love the CZ's. I always stop by their booth at the SHOT Show to see what's new. Great people behind the guns as well.

The CZ97s are fantastic feeling guns.  I've never shot one, but the ergonomics are as good as any 1911.  In the next few weeks I'll be adding another .45 to my arsenal.  It's a toss up right now if it will be another Sig P220 or a CZ97B or BD.  I do like the decocker on the BD model. 

And CZ .22s are amazing.  The 452 Lux series has the best iron sites ever put on a rimfire rifle.  It's almost a shame to mount a scope on one. 

Out of curiosity, what do you do that gives you access to the Shot Show?

[FL Knifemaker]

I really love the 97B's. They fit my hand and always shoot exactly where I point them.......and they seem to naturally point where I want my round to go.

I've bought my wife some serious guns over the years including 2 H&K P7's. She always goes back to and LOVES her CZ75. We also have an 85 "Combat" and a .22 rifle. Love the CZ's. I always stop by their booth at the SHOT Show to see what's new. Great people behind the guns as well.

The CZ97s are fantastic feeling guns. I've never shot one, but the ergonomics are as good as any 1911. In the next few weeks I'll be adding another .45 to my arsenal. It's a toss up right now if it will be another Sig P220 or a CZ97B or BD. I do like the decocker on the BD model.

And CZ .22s are amazing. The 452 Lux series has the best iron sites ever put on a rimfire rifle. It's almost a shame to mount a scope on one.

Out of curiosity, what do you do that gives you access to the Shot Show?

I've been involved with several knife companies, doing collaborations. I have more in the works now with another well known company. They like to have the knife designers and custom makers at the show to help promote the knives. We also have quite a few of the 1911 smiths on our knife and gun forum. I also stay in touch with the various gun magazines

[FishingBuds]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

[VolFan]

X100 on what Fishingbuds just said.

[FL Knifemaker]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

I agree with you 110%. I just couldn't figure out what TaylorFFL was trying to say 

[FishingBuds]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

I agree with you 110%. I just couldn't figure out what TaylorFFL was trying to say

yea, it looks like he means that you see a law guy and you just say, Hey I have a gun!

But may not be what he meant, just wanna clear it up some.

Nothen worse than a legal CC holder smarten off to a cop cause he thinks he can for being legal and given the rest a bad image. :  I know a guy to this day that thinks this way and IMHO doesn't deserve a fishen permit let alone a CC :

[burleytog]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

Depends on the state.  VA has no notification law.

[FL Knifemaker]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

I agree with you 110%. I just couldn't figure out what TaylorFFL was trying to say

yea, it looks like he means that you see a law guy and you just say, Hey I have a gun!

But may not be what he meant, just wanna clear it up some.

Nothen worse than a legal CC holder smarten off to a cop cause he thinks he can for being legal and given the rest a bad image. : I know a guy to this day that thinks this way and IMHO doesn't deserve a fishen permit let alone a CC :

I didn't try to read into anything he posted.  Honestly, I couldn't figure out what he was talking about.  That's why I posted what I did.

[done]

LOL....yeah in NC you always tell them. If you are not carrying then you tell them you have a permit and are not carrying.

It is best not to mess with the cops and I know of no police officer out there who will get ticked at you for notifying them you have a concealed carry permit and the status of your carry (whether you have 1 or not).

[FishingBuds]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

Depends on the state. VA has no notification law.

Im not talking law, Im talking smarts, unless its a criminal-then thats what it is then

[FishingBuds]

This is always useful, I carry one in my wallet.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf

[done]

Most states will have their own. NC has a map from their site that has an idiots guide to what states will honor our CCW. That being said, it CAN change year to year, so keep checking it periodically. Last thing you need is a weapons charge for carrying concealed without a permit.

[burleytog]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

Depends on the state. VA has no notification law.

Im not talking law, Im talking smarts, unless its a criminal-then thats what it is then

If not required by the state I'm in, I have no reason to notify anyone of my carry status.

[FL Knifemaker]

carry it and if a game wardern comes go a head and tell him the truth before he even starts having for licnse

:-? Say WHUT??

I"ve had a CC license now for the past 20yrs, I have relatives and friends in law enforcement.

You better know when to tell a officer of the law you are a legal CC holder with a loaded gun on ya, when he ask to see your I.D.

Don't ever take a chance to surprise the officer you have a loaded gun on ya, period.

If you are pulled over, you announce that you have a CC and you have the firearm on ya/with ya. Besides they already know from your plates.

This is the difference between a ignorant CC holder to a knowledge CC holder.

Depends on the state. VA has no notification law.

Im not talking law, Im talking smarts, unless its a criminal-then thats what it is then

If not required by the state I'm in, I have no reason to notify anyone of my carry status.

After some thought, I'm tending to agree with you. If you're abiding by the laws, so be it.   I've never encountered a LEO that I didn't know while I was carrying.........Other than at the range.  I'd like to read the Florida law that specifies when and how I would have to make a LEO aware that I'm CCW.  Anyone have a link??