bassnleo Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 There was a bit of time I time I did not carry while fishing, then I had a situation. 1st day of trout season a few years back and me and some friends decide to get together and hit a local stream. We round a bend to find a campsite right along the stream, along with 5 drunks, 4 of which I had previously arrested and were on probation/parole..... and they recognized me, and one friend who was a correctional officer at our county jail. After a verbal exchange, we were outta there, not worth the trouble. Soon as I was out of sight I called the local PD. I had the last word when they were all hauled off for violating their probation/parole for drinking. Now I'm armed.....always. Quote
moby bass Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I haven't carried in the past while fishing, but this year, I'm going to start. Crime seems to be increasing in our area, though mostly among the druggies that know each other. But still, way too many shady characters out there any more. Quote
Fat-G Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I'm surprised how many people have guns. I know when I'm of age, I'll be carrying. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 5, 2010 Super User Posted February 5, 2010 Just last week I was talking with an officer fromĀ Palm Beach Sheriff's department and this is what he said to me (had over 30 years of service). You would be surprised how many people get shot with their own guns, simply because they may be trained to shoot at a range( targets don't shoot back) but not trained to handle a situation and not prepared to take a life, regardless of what they say.Ā These are his words not mine. I was mugged twice both times at knife and gunpoint, in each case there were 2 or 3 muggers.Ā They came out of the shadows and were on me so fast even if I had a weapon I'd not been able to pull it out. Luckily I only got stabbed one of the times, the muggers were less fortunate, not to go into detail but I was better trained than they were. IMO you are better off learning hand to hand combat. Beware of the words " Hey buddy, ya got a light?" Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 5, 2010 Super User Posted February 5, 2010 In Virginia, other than Ancarrows in the City of Richmond, I feel safe at the ramps and on the water. Never carried and don't think I will since I was trained not to take prisoners so you know how I would shoot someone. But times change and if I start encountering problems I will not hesitate to carry.Ā Quote
Super User Micro Posted February 5, 2010 Super User Posted February 5, 2010 In Virginia, other than Ancarrows in the City of Richmond, I feel safe at the ramps and on the water. That's the way I feel.Ā I've never carried a firearm while fishing because I really thought I might need one for self defense.Ā I've never used a ramp I felt unsafe at (except from friggin jet skiers, and you can't shoot them).Ā I usually carry one because I want to.Ā Or because I dread a late night or early morning breakdown on the way to or from my ramp.Ā I feel far more comfortable aroudn the people I see on th water than most of the people I am around in shopping malls.Ā Quote
done Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 Beware of the words " Hey buddy, ya got a light?" Ranks right up there with "Hey Y'all. Watch this!" (except from friggin jet skiers, and you can't shoot them).Ā Yeah that is a travesty, we should have a jetski hunting season just like deer or duck. The rule would be you cannot shoot them unless they are within 150 ft of your boat. Would change the fishing scene overnight, lol. Quote
done Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 There was a bit of time I time I did not carry while fishing, then I had a situation like flukemaster. 1st day of trout season a few years back and me and some friends decide to get together and hit a local stream. We round a bend to find a campsite right along the stream, along with 5 drunks, 4 of which I had previously arrested and were on probation/parole..... and they recognized me, and one friend who was a correctional officer at our county jail. After a verbal exchange, we were outta there, not worth the trouble. Soon as I was out of sight I called the local PD. I had the last word when they were all hauled off for violating their probation/parole for drinking. Now I'm armed.....always. I don't blame ya. My sister and brother in law have been cops in my home town for near 20 years. The town is 3 sq miles in size. So the chances of bumping into someone you have arrested is pretty good. Those guys are ALWAYS armed (especially my sister). Thankfully they have never had to use them, which is the case with most of us who carry. One of the defining moments that helped me to see it was when I served on a jury for a murder trial. This house was LOADED with handguns. I mean they had a loaded one in each glove box, had a couple on the nightstand, kitchen drawers, and always on them. NONE of them legal. They had kids all around the house all the time including teens with known gang affiliations. It was an absolute miracle that it took as long as it did for someone there to get killed. All of these folks lived within 15 miles of my house. They drove and mingled with me, I probably saw them out a mess of times. After the murder the dude (who killed his wife) went to the Walmart where I sometimes shop and sat in the parking lot for 5 hours with the murder weapon and 2 other handguns trying to figure out what to do. I am thinking, you know, I hope to God I never had to use one. I hope this gun turns out to be the biggest waste of money I have ever had, but just in case, I wanted to have it for my protection and my family. Going to the range was an eye opener too. There were dozens of "rednecks" in there shooting, ALL of them took gun safety seriously, all of them took the repercussion of using the gun on a person seriously. Sort of put me more at ease with so many law abiding, responsible folks out there. Anyway, as shown on this board, a LOT more folks carrying out there than you realize and rarely ever an incident with these folks. Quote
VolFan Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I do, but if I think I'll need it in a certain area, I don't fish that area.Ā Fishing isn't worth a gunfight. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted February 6, 2010 Super User Posted February 6, 2010 The thing is, what might be a safe ramp in the daylight could be a dangerous place in the dark. I've seen a lot of strange things at various public ramps.Ā There is one local ACOE lake that I won't fish because both ramps are secluded and are known for a lot of drug deals.Ā I won't launch at a ramp that doesn't have good lighting.Ā The most convienent ramp on Cherokee Lake is also most likely the most crime ridden.Ā Far too easy for criminals to get in & out without being noticed. Situational awareness is key at any ramp, daylight or dark. Quote
VolFan Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Situational awareness is key at any ramp, daylight or dark. Boom. That goes for everywhere, not just boat ramps. I'm in no way against guns; they just need to be an absolute last resort. Also, on Cherokee, if yougot into a gunfight you'd just have to dodge their first volley.Ā Then you could goto work with your handgun while they were measuring their powder and priming the pan. Quote
Steve P. Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. M Star, the number one rule is NEVER put yourself in a situation carrying a firearm that you WOULDN'T put yourself in if you were unarmed. If you are that concerned, don't go there at all. Find someplace else to fish. The posts about being nervous around a bunch of armed LAW ABIDING citizens is what scares me. What group of people could be MORE responsible than a group that legally jumped through all of those hoops to obtain a CWL???? : Anybody who is anti-gun needs to plug their brain back in and do some research on what happens when a society is disarmed. Quote
VAfishin4me Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. funny thing is, I'm pretty sure you just declared you carry yourself Quote
Thai Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. funny thing is, I'm pretty sure you just declared you carry yourself Very nice! Quote
Steve P. Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Before you make such ignorant statements, I think it would be nice if you even had a clue as to what you are talking about. I don't own any firearms. Why don't you be a little more responsible and not throw out accusations like that. Mkay? I'm considering getting one, but haven't decided yet. You two are retards. > Quote
Thai Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. M Star, the number one rule is NEVER put yourself in a situation carrying a firearm that you WOULDN'T put yourself in if you were unarmed. If you are that concerned, don't go there at all. Find someplace else to fish. The posts about being nervous around a bunch of armed LAW ABIDING citizens is what scares me. What group of people could be MORE responsible than a group that legally jumped through all of those hoops to obtain a CWL???? : Anybody who is anti-gun needs to plug their brain back in and do some research on what happens when a society is disarmed. That's right, people who get mugged walking back to their car or held up at the boat ramp just woke up and decided that's how they wanted to spend their day... Crime happens whether you like it or not and if it could so easily be prevented don't you think it would be a crime less world we live in? You can't predict whats going to happen and when it does wouldn't you want the extra sense of security? Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted February 7, 2010 Super User Posted February 7, 2010 its crazy how threads turn stupid. Quote
Steve P. Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. M Star, the number one rule is NEVER put yourself in a situation carrying a firearm that you WOULDN'T put yourself in if you were unarmed. If you are that concerned, don't go there at all. Find someplace else to fish. The posts about being nervous around a bunch of armed LAW ABIDING citizens is what scares me. What group of people could be MORE responsible than a group that legally jumped through all of those hoops to obtain a CWL???? : Anybody who is anti-gun needs to plug their brain back in and do some research on what happens when a society is disarmed. That's right, people who get mugged walking back to their car or held up at the boat ramp just woke up and decided that's how they wanted to spend their day... Crime happens whether you like it or not and if it could so easily be prevented don't you think it would be a crime less world we live in? You can't predict whats going to happen and when it does wouldn't you want the extra sense of security? Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Actually, he CAN predict what is going to happen to him. He KNOWS that a bad situation ALREADY exists. As my original post said, don't put yourself into a bad situation JUST BECAUSE you HAVE a firearm. DUHH!! This is NOT an unpredictable situation and your arguement is retarded. He has a CHOICE in this particular scenario. Please don't try to make yourself look smart. You're all out of ammo Quote
Thai Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I'm bewildered as to why anyone would come on a public forum and declare to the world that they conceal carry? But hey, it's your right to do so. M Star, the number one rule is NEVER put yourself in a situation carrying a firearm that you WOULDN'T put yourself in if you were unarmed. If you are that concerned, don't go there at all. Find someplace else to fish. The posts about being nervous around a bunch of armed LAW ABIDING citizens is what scares me. What group of people could be MORE responsible than a group that legally jumped through all of those hoops to obtain a CWL???? : Anybody who is anti-gun needs to plug their brain back in and do some research on what happens when a society is disarmed. That's right, people who get mugged walking back to their car or held up at the boat ramp just woke up and decided that's how they wanted to spend their day... Crime happens whether you like it or not and if it could so easily be prevented don't you think it would be a crime less world we live in? You can't predict whats going to happen and when it does wouldn't you want the extra sense of security? Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Actually, he CAN predict what is going to happen to him. He KNOWS that a bad situation ALREADY exists. As my original post said, don't put yourself into a bad situation JUST BECAUSE you HAVE a firearm. DUHH!! This is NOT an unpredictable situation and your arguement is retarded. He has a CHOICE in this particular scenario. Please don't try to make yourself look smart. You're all out of ammo Nope I'm sure there's a fresh case somewhere in the house Quote
Radical Conservative Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 In today's world... you NEVER know what could happen... I don't hardly feel safe without one anymore, no matter where I'm at. Quote
Steve P. Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Nice comeback, I guess?LOL Bottom line....... Guy says he IS NOT comfortable with ramp situation. I say.....don't go back regardless of whether you have a boom boom or not. Thai, I fail to see where you are right in this situation. Remember, this isn't a video game, young man........... Quote
Steve P. Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 WHY is a BOY argueing with me about the right to have guns when my original post says........"Anybody who is anti-gun needs to plug their brain back in and do some research on what happens when a society is disarmed". Did I NOT make it clear where I stand on this? I wonder if he takes swings at himself in the mirror in the morning? Thai, are you drunk or something? ;D Quote
ilovefooffur Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 If I had the need to carry a weapon when I go fishing, then I probably wouldn't want to fish.Ā Having the need to carry a gun would not make fishing fun and relaxing for me. Quote
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