Super User T-rig Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 From The Sunday Times January 31, 2010 SWITZERLAND is going to new extremes in the battle to improve life for its animals. The country of Heidi and cuckoo clocks will hold a referendum in March on whether domesticated creatures should have the right to be represented by lawyers in court. The Alpine state is rapidly emerging as European champion of animal rights. It recently changed its constitution to protect the dignity of plant life and made a law last year establishing rights for creatures such as canaries and goldfish. If the referendum is approved, every canton in Switzerland will be obliged to appoint a lawyer to act for pets as well as farm animals and defend them from abuse. Humans accused of animal cruelty can hire a lawyer or get one assigned but animals can't, said Antoine Goetschel, a lawyer. Which is where I come in. The government is against the idea of animal lawyers, as are farmers' associations and pet breeders, who fear stricter regulation if the motion is approved on March 7. Last week a committee called No to the Useless Animal Lawyers' Initiative was set up. Animal rights advocates are useless to animals, it said. They can't prevent animal abuse because they only get involved after it has been perpetrated. Goetschel, a 50-year-old vegetarian, disagrees and hopes that the initiative passes with a big yes. Unlike the Middle Ages, when locusts and frogs were often summoned to court in Europe to answer for crimes such as infestations, animals are not requested to attend proceedings before a judge. In court Goetschel acts much like a public prosecutor appealing for an appropriate sentence. It is his job to enforce legislation enacted in 2008 under which goldfish, canaries and guinea pigs are considered social animals, which must never be kept alone. Goldfish tanks cannot be transparent on four sides since fish need shelter. Dog owners must take a four-hour course on pet care before they acquire their canine companion. Goetschel, who runs a regular legal practice dealing with everything from property law to divorce, does not get involved in plant life, even if the constitution has been amended to recognise that plants are entitled to dignity, meaning that it is wrong, in the view of a governmentappointed ethics panel, to engage in the decapitation of wildflowers at the roadside without rational reason. Instead he receives regular tip-offs about misbehaving pet owners. They are given two weeks to get their guinea pig or goldfish a mate. Failure to comply can lead to a court summons. The lawyer says that he takes into account whether the abuse was intentional as well as the degree of cold-heartedness when deciding what punishment to request. The maximum sentence for animal abuse is three years in prison but the usual outcome is a fine. Pet keepers think that a so-called love for a guinea pig is enough, said the lawyer. But this ignores the animal's needs as a species, such as having a companion. In one case, when police forced their way into a home to investigate reports of a woman being beaten by her husband, it was noticed that the couple kept a lone canary. Animal abuse was added to wife-beating in the list of charges, said Goetschel. In another case a man was fined for leaving three cats locked up for 10 days in his house without food while he went on holiday. A pet shop owner who failed to change water in his tanks, resulting in the death of fish, was forced to adopt higher standards. Goetschel is not making friends among fishermen, whose prey is these days protected under Swiss law on the basis that fish have feelings. Last week he was investigating complaints about a fisherman accused of playing fish on the line for an unnecessarily long time before landing them. The law also bans catch and release fishing on the somewhat baffling grounds that it is cruel to catch the fish and then put them back even though fish might prefer this to being whacked on the head. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 It would be funny if it was not true. :-[ Quote
Super User T-rig Posted February 10, 2010 Author Super User Posted February 10, 2010 Unfortunately it is true! There already was a case in the Canton (State) of Zürich where a guy had to go to court because he fought a 45" pike for ten minutes. According to animal activists the fight was to long and the fish suffered unnecessary pain. Luckily he was found not guilty by the court. What is this world coming to!? Here the story (sorry only in German): http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/Tieranwalt-erwaegt-Rekurs-gegen-Hechturteil-10354838 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 A good lawyer (or perhaps bad) can indite a ham sandwich. Quote
Super User firefightn15 Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 Wow, that is really getting ridiculous. I would imagine PETA type orgs are pouring everything they have into this one. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 Wow. And I thought that kind of nonsense only happened here in America. Show support for common sense. The next time you see someone practicing political correctness or P.E.T.A. related activities, punch them square in the face. Hard. Quote
-HAWK- Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Unfortunately it is true! There already was a case in the Canton (State) of Zürich where a guy had to go to court because he fought a 45" pike for ten minutes. According to animal activists the fight was to long and the fish suffered unnecessary pain. Luckily he was found not guilty by the court. What is this world coming to!? Here the story (sorry only in German): http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/Tieranwalt-erwaegt-Rekurs-gegen-Hechturteil-10354838 This is beyond ridiculous.... Its in our blood to hunt and kill creatures whether for food or sport. This type of crap is insane. Was the 45" Pike able to take the stand and tell his side of the story before a jury? ;D ;D ;D Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 "The law also bans catch and release fishing on the somewhat baffling grounds that it is cruel to catch the fish and then put them back even though fish might prefer this to being whacked on the head." This is all the result of attributing human pain and emotion to animals who are scientifically proven to be incapable of such things. See kids? This is what happens when you overdose on the most prevalent mind-altering "drug" today: 100% pure, uncut stupidity. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 ******* ruhtarded, but not unexpected. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted February 10, 2010 Super User Posted February 10, 2010 Unfortunately it is true! There already was a case in the Canton (State) of Zürich where a guy had to go to court because he fought a 45" pike for ten minutes. According to animal activists the fight was to long and the fish suffered unnecessary pain. Luckily he was found not guilty by the court. What is this world coming to!? People are losing touch with the natural world more and more. That is what the world is coming to. Quote
Super User T-rig Posted February 11, 2010 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2010 "The law also bans catch and release fishing on the somewhat baffling grounds that it is cruel to catch the fish and then put them back even though fish might prefer this to being whacked on the head." This is all the result of attributing human pain and emotion to animals who are scientifically proven to be incapable of such things. See kids? This is what happens when you overdose on the most prevalent mind-altering "drug" today: 100% pure, uncut stupidity. Couldn't agree more! Quote
moby bass Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Some people have waaaaay too much time on their hands. They need to go out and find a real job and work for a living. Quote
Sfritr Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 So, then we shouldn't can sardines because a few of them might be clausterphobic............... Quote
OIFBasser Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 My dog is going to have to hire this guy, because next time he poops on the floor, or chews a shoe, I am going to sue him for damages. Quote
-HAWK- Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 My dog is going to have to hire this guy, because next time he poops on the floor, or chews a shoe, I am going to sue him for damages. Awesome ;D ;D ;D Quote
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