Possible cure for cancer?

[Redlinerobert]

I hope to God this isnt a joke.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,26677869-3102,00.html

[Sam]

X2

[roadwarrior]

Undoubtedly a hoax...Legitimate research does

not start with field tests on horses and dogs. The

next step is not from dog to human or straight

to human "volunteers".

I bet the extract is nothing more than fruit juice

and will be sold to desperate people through the

black market.

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[done]

Doing a little look on the Dr quoted in the article: http://www.rfpharma.com/subpage1.html

She does not seem herself like a legitimate researcher. Looking at her background she seems more like a rainforest management specialist.

Though in her defense she does say humans need to wait until legal approval by the proper agency. Would love to think this is legit but it does have a strange feel to it. Guess time will tell.

[SirSnookalot]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

[Sfritr]

Can you say  "overpriced over the counter Placebo"? 

[Dan:]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

so do radiation and chemotherapy.

[SirSnookalot]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

so do radiation and chemotherapy.

Everyone is aware of radiation and chemo, they are mainstream treatments, but not I've not read much on ozone until my friend told me about it 2 years ago.

[Dan:]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

so do radiation and chemotherapy.

Everyone is aware of radiation and chemo, they are mainstream treatments, but not I've not read much on ozone until my friend told me about it 2 years ago.

I'm just saying there are proven, FDA approved, and medically accepted treatments out there. Different treatments work for different cases. The terrible thing about cancer is that you just never know how it will respond in any given case.

[SirSnookalot]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

so do radiation and chemotherapy.

Everyone is aware of radiation and chemo, they are mainstream treatments, but not I've not read much on ozone until my friend told me about it 2 years ago.

I'm just saying there are proven, FDA approved, and medically accepted treatments out there. Different treatments work for different cases. The terrible thing about cancer is that you just never know how it will respond in any given case.

I absolutely agree, except to say the FDA works slow and often times wears blinders.

[Fishing Rhino]

The story sounds like an adaptation of the movie "Medicine Man" starring Sean Connery and Lorraine Bracco.

Something similar made the news thirty years ago when Laetrile, which was formulated from extracts of apricot pits was available in Mexico.

Steve McQueen sought treatment in Mexico when he was diagnosed with mesothelioma.

...............In July 1980, McQueen secretly traveled to Rosarita Beach, Mexico, to be treated by Mexican and American doctors using Dr. Kelley's regimen. He received not only pancreatic enzymes but 50 daily vitamins and minerals, massages, prayer sessions, psychotherapy, coffee enemas and injections of a cell preparation made from sheep and cattle fetuses. McQueen was also given laetrile, a controversial alternative treatment made from apricot pits.

In October, after being tracked down by The National Enquirer, McQueen issued a statement saying he had mesothelioma and was in treatment in Mexico. A week later, Mexican television played an audio message from McQueen in which he said he was recovering. "Mexico is showing the world a new way of fighting cancer through nonspecific metabolic therapies," he said, adding, "Thank you for helping to save my life."

Cancer organizations were horrified, warning that McQueen's supposed recovery was a hoax. One doctor called the treatment "rank quackery." But others wanted to hear what McQueen and his new doctors had to say. At a press conference, one Mexican physician claimed that 85 to 90 percent of his patients had improved with Dr. Kelley's treatment. Twelve patients who said they were cured by Dr. Kelley attended as well.

McQueen's resurrection was short-lived. On Nov. 6, 1980, doctors operated to remove cancerous masses from his abdomen and neck. He withstood the surgery, but he died the next day.

In recent years, interest has surged in what is now called complementary cancer therapy. The National Institutes of Health sponsors clinical trials of these treatments. One trial is even studying a variant of Dr. Kelley's regimen for end-stage pancreatic cancer.

While McQueen may have fostered the growth of complementary medicine, his case is more notable for another reason. His desperate pursuit of a last-ditch therapy appeals to many cancer patients who have exhausted all other alternatives..............................

Sadly, there will always be those who prey on the weak, gullible, or susceptible that are in desperate situations.

Is this latest "medicine" the real McCoy?  I have my doubts. 

Some will no doubt remember when medical research held out the possibility that Interferon, which still has medical uses today, including fighting tumors, was being touted as a potential cure for cancer, even in the medical community.

[roadwarrior]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

Geez...more voodoo...

Therapeutic use of ozone is not endorsed by health authorities or medical associations in any English speaking country, and most US states prohibit the marketing of ozone generators, its medical use, and even research and clinical trials of ozone therapy, so that doctors risk losing their medical licenses by administering or prescribing ozone therapies. There is anecdotal evidence of ozone therapy having caused remission in a variety of diseases, but only a few of these life saving administrations have been verified.

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[SirSnookalot]

Don't know about this juice, but there are other alternatives that work, just not in this county and of course we know why.

Ozone treatment for cancer has worked and I have a living friend that's proof of it......by the way , he's a doctor.

Geez...more voodoo...

Therapeutic use of ozone is not endorsed by health authorities or medical associations in any English speaking country, and most US states prohibit the marketing of ozone generators, its medical use, and even research and clinical trials of ozone therapy, so that doctors risk losing their medical licenses by administering or prescribing ozone therapies. There is anecdotal evidence of ozone therapy having caused remission in a variety of diseases, but only a few of these life saving administrations have been verified.

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The statement may be true, had further research been done you may have found dozens of other articles that are positive. As I mentioned my friend has been cured with ozone therapy,his name is Larry Ranucci and he is one of my 80 year old king fishing buddies, yeah he still pulls those big bruisers in.

Today, after 125 years of usage, ozone therapy is recognized in Germany, Italy, France, Russia, Romania, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Israel, Japan, Singapore, Brazil, Cuba, Mexico, 4 Canadian provinces and 14 US states (Alaska, Washington, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Minnesota).BTW those highlighted do speak English. Many other countries English speaking or not have contributed to medical and pharmaceutical research, IMO the AMA or FDA are not the last word in medicine.

the rest of of only one article :

http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/articles.html

[Dan:]

Snook, that's from an ozone interest site, I'm taking it at face value.

The FDA is probably hesitant because ozone treatment involves putting a toxic gas into your body and apparently there isn't as much hard scientific evidence supporting ozone treatment as there are emotional, last resort success stories that promote it.

And I'm sure there are cases when it has "worked" but for that matter, there are also cases when prayer has "worked" to reverse or cure cancer. Does that mean it was the only thing in play or was there some other effect  happening as well?  I dunno...

[Fishing Rhino]

Snook, that's from an ozone interest site, I'm taking it at face value.

The FDA is probably hesitant because ozone treatment involves putting a toxic gas into your body and apparently there isn't as much hard scientific evidence supporting ozone treatment as there are emotional, last resort success stories that promote it.

And I'm sure there are cases when it has "worked" but for that matter, there are also cases when prayer has "worked" to reverse or cure cancer. Does that mean it was the only thing in play or was there some other effect happening as well? I dunno...

Many of the drugs approved for the treatment of cancer are also toxic.  They are poisons aimed at the cancer cells, but they also may have horrendous and painful side effects. 

Regarding the ozone, I doubt it is solely because it is putting a toxic substance in your body.  Today is the first I've heard of the ozone treatment.

Nearly two and a half years ago, our son-in-law died from toxicity to a medication he was prescribed.

Cholesterol meds can damage the liver.

On and on the list would go.

[SirSnookalot]

Dan, the point is to think out of the box, you just never know what will work and what won't and try not to leave any stone unturned, I know you would agree with that.

The important thing is to never accept one view or opinion but to get some education regarding a possible move in a different direction.

[Dan:]

Snook, that's from an ozone interest site, I'm taking it at face value.

The FDA is probably hesitant because ozone treatment involves putting a toxic gas into your body and apparently there isn't as much hard scientific evidence supporting ozone treatment as there are emotional, last resort success stories that promote it.

And I'm sure there are cases when it has "worked" but for that matter, there are also cases when prayer has "worked" to reverse or cure cancer. Does that mean it was the only thing in play or was there some other effect happening as well? I dunno...

Many of the drugs approved for the treatment of cancer are also toxic. They are poisons aimed at the cancer cells, but they also may have horrendous and painful side effects.

Regarding the ozone, I doubt it is solely because it is putting a toxic substance in your body. Today is the first I've heard of the ozone treatment.

Nearly two and a half years ago, our son-in-law died from toxicity to a medication he was prescribed.

Cholesterol meds can damage the liver.

On and on the list would go.

Yeah, you're right. Obviously radiation and chemo are also toxic. I'm just saying that the fact that it is indeed toxic in addition to the lack of empirical evidence might explain why it has not been widely accepted.

Snook, I know what you mean. There are lots of last resorts that people with no more options will always chase after and if it gives them hope, that's great. I'm just not going to lump those solutions in with the medically proven and scientifically verified approaches.

[Hookemdown.]

This might be a little off topic, but my mom had colon cancer about 8 years ago.  (Wow, I can't believe it's already been that long ago)  She recovered quickly and has been cancer free for the last several years.

She takes this stuff called Essiac Tea.  It looks like muddy water.  I doubt it does any good, but it can't hurt to try it.  She swears by the stuff.

[Dan:]

i like the possibilities of this new research using Gold Nanospheres/nanoparticles. the nanoparticles seek out the cancer, then by focusing a infared laser in which the particles react to, essentually cooks/destroys the cancer. i thought it sounded promising.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/04/01/gold-nanospheres.html

But there are possible downsides to that as well. Nano-particles penetrate different barriers within the body. Some researchers are worried that nano-particles might get stuck in different areas where they aren't supposed to be and cause unsafe chemical reactions. Nano-particles do not act the same way that the bigger versions do. For instance, a nano-particle of silver or gold can create different chemical reactions than regular particles of the same substances.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084931/Revealed-The-toxic-nanoparticles-asbestos-like-properties-everyday-goods.html

[Fishing Rhino]

This might be a little off topic, but my mom had colon cancer about 8 years ago. (Wow, I can't believe it's already been that long ago) She recovered quickly and has been cancer free for the last several years.

She takes this stuff called Essiac Tea. It looks like muddy water. I doubt it does any good, but it can't hurt to try it. She swears by the stuff.

That's great for your mom and family. Who cares it it's the tea or whatever. As long as the cancer is gone is what counts.

Maybe you should try dipping your plastic baits in that tea. I mean, they have coffee flavored baits. You never know.

[bassman31783]

My mom has had Stage 4 cancer for 23yrs. I'm hopeful & optimistic but not foolhardy. I'd like to think that someday they'll find a cure for cancer, but with there being so many diff types, all acting differently in each person, it's hard for me to think that they'll find one thing to cure it all. As for now, & the past 23yrs, prayers, with the help of great doctors, have worked wonderfully.

[roadwarrior]

Dan, the point is to think out of the box, you just never know what will work and what won't and try not to leave any stone unturned, I know you would agree with that.

The important thing is to never accept one view or opinion but to get some education regarding a possible move in a different direction.

Yeah, right.

You make the same pitch as the snake oil

salesman from the days before science was

taken seriously.

Beware, not every thief hides in the shadows.

Magic cures are found or distributed by promoters.

Scientists spend their careers working on medicines.

Important drugs are only "discovered" in the

jungle in movies, on TV and infomercials.

[christopherjake]

I wish I am wrong but highly doubt the cure is this simple. 

[Tin]

Fact is the drug companies would never allow a cure for cancer to hit the market.

[Bassn Blvd]

Fact is the drug companies would never allow a cure for cancer to hit the market.

Exactly.  They would secretly eradicate any plant or fruit that could be the single, most productive way of curing cancer.  What would be the population of the world if they found a cure for cancer and AIDS?