Could the NFL be rigged?

[BassDeaton01]

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad the Saints won and I think they deserve it. But how many times has Peyton Manning basically threw the ball to the other team with the game on the line? I mean the receiver might have ran the wrong route but he looked like he just said here's the game Saints and threw the ball to the defender. And then in the NFC championship game with Peterson fumbling x amount of times and Favre throwing that dumb pass at the end for an interception. Peterson hardly EVER fumbled during the regular season. Then this topic takes me back to the Patriots winning the SB after 9/11. Maybe just a coincendence right? I hope this is not the case and this is the reason College football is better than pro IMO. I know I may get thrashed for this post and it may even get deleted but this is a possibilty.

[I Love BassResource]

Yes, I heard Catt paid them each off with promises of unlimited Gene Larew Craw's.

[ohioriverrat]

I hope it doesn't get deleted- it's only an opinion.

Football is a game of mistakes. Whomever makes the least number of mistakes goes home a winner. I  vehemently disagree that it may be rigged. It's just a very hard game to play.

[Korea_Bassin]

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad the Saints won and I think they deserve it. But how many times has Peyton Manning basically threw the ball to the other team with the game on the line? I mean the receiver might have ran the wrong route but he looked like he just said here's the game Saints and threw the ball to the defender. And then in the NFC championship game with Peterson fumbling x amount of times and Favre throwing that dumb pass at the end for an interception. Peterson hardly EVER fumbled during the regular season. Then this topic takes me back to the Patriots winning the SB after 9/11. Maybe just a coincendence right? I hope this is not the case and this is the reason College football is better than pro IMO. I know I may get thrashed for this post and it may even get deleted but this is a possibilty.

Seven fumbles on the year, but check out this article:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/02/is-adrian-peterson-liability.html

[Tokyo Tony]

Just google "Is the NFL rigged," and you'll get plenty of evidence. Not conclusive evidence, but a lot of convincing arguments.

I, for one, believe that at least some games are rigged. Not all of them, but some. There's just too much money to be had, too many very rich and powerful people involved, and all you need to rig a game is a few officials and the quarterback. My grandfather always told me it was rigged, and I never believed it, but if you read a lot about it and go in with an open mind, a lot of the arguments make sense.

$0.02

[Catt]

The Colts got to predictable, that pass was their favorite play in that situation and Porter read it and under cut the route...excellent defense.

Peterson is known for coughing up the ball all the way back to high school

[bilgerat]

The NBA was rigged (the crooked referee scandal) so in my mind, ANY sport is suspect. It is what it is, just enjoy the game for what it is. Betting is for suckers anyhow. Once money is involved, anything goes. 

[senile1]

I don't know.  I think it would be difficult to completely control a game, but I do think that certain individuals involved in a game could work together to affect the results. 

My anecdotal evidence shows that the media and the NFL know how to create a David vs Goliath scenario.  The story and the line showed the Colts were the favorites.  The Saints were painted as the underdogs and everyone was led to believe they deserved to win.  The story was accepted hook, line, and sinker by just about everyone I know.  I attended my stepson's Superbowl party and there were two people out of around 20 that were wanting the Colts to win.  In the last week I have only spoken to one other person that wanted the Colts to win.  And did you hear the noise in that stadium when the Colts had the ball?  If I didn't know any better I would have thought the Saints were playing at home. 

[BassDeaton01]

Yeah Peterson had 7 fumbles on the year and he fumbled the ball all the way back to high school but 4 in one night! I think that's how many times he fumbled in that game. And then I know Favre is the master of interceptions. But running and throwing BACK across the field in that situation was wayyy too fishy for me. I'm just saying I hope that these games aren't rigged and I've never really thought about it until now. But it could be easily done by the higher ups. I hate to think that Manning could do it. But what if he got a phone call one night and it said if he doesn't give the Saints a good chance of winning that he could kiss the hall of fame goodbye. I'm not saying that happened but couldn't it easily have happened?? And then you have the chance of people getting paid off by the NFL to throw an interception or fumble the ball. Say 100,000 for every fumble or 80,000 for every interception. What would you do with the offer??

[RobbyZ5001]

The Colts got to predictable, that pass was their favorite play in that situation and Porter read it and under cut the route...excellent defense.

Peterson is known for coughing up the ball all the way back to high school

Catt you should be an NFL football analyst. 

[Korea_Bassin]

The NBA was rigged (the crooked referee scandal) so in my mind, ANY sport is suspect. It is what it is, just enjoy the game for what it is. Betting is for suckers anyhow. Once money is involved, anything goes.

I'm a sucker then but for the day I came out a winner:

Colts -4.5  LOSS

Colts to score every quarter  LOSS

Saints total rushing yards over 108.5 LOSS

Colts -3 (1st Half)  WIN

Game's shortest field goal >24.5 yards WIN

Game's shortest TD >1.5 yards WIN

Saints to have last possession WIN

Total score under 56.5 WIN

Antoine Bethea (Colts) to have less that 5.5 tackles + assists WIN

Colts first quarter total more than Bruins/Canadiens total goals WIN

1st Successful Field Goal over 31.5 yards WIN

So even though I didn't pick the winner...I can't complain.  The bait monkey is happy!!!

[Tokyo Tony]

Yeah Peterson had 7 fumbles on the year and he fumbled the ball all the way back to high school but 4 in one night! I think that's how many times he fumbled in that game. And then I know Favre is the master of interceptions. But running and throwing BACK across the field in that situation was wayyy too fishy for me. I'm just saying I hope that these games aren't rigged and I've never really thought about it until now. But it could be easily done by the higher ups. I hate to think that Manning could do it. But what if he got a phone call one night and it said if he doesn't give the Saints a good chance of winning that he could kiss the hall of fame goodbye. I'm not saying that happened but couldn't it easily have happened?? And then you have the chance of people getting paid off by the NFL to throw an interception or fumble the ball. Say 100,000 for every fumble or 80,000 for every interception. What would you do with the offer??

How about a more morbid scenario in which Manning gets a call or a letter saying if he doesn't do such and such, he'd better watch out for his family...etc.

Like I said, there are many very rich and very powerful people who have large, vested interests in the outcomes of many games. That fact alone should throw up a red flag.

Where there's money to be had, the scumbags school up and circle. Sports, politics, Wall Street, and everything else. Again, that's not proof of any wrongdoing, but it does make one think.

[Korea_Bassin]

Yeah Peterson had 7 fumbles on the year and he fumbled the ball all the way back to high school but 4 in one night! I think that's how many times he fumbled in that game. And then I know Favre is the master of interceptions. But running and throwing BACK across the field in that situation was wayyy too fishy for me. I'm just saying I hope that these games aren't rigged and I've never really thought about it until now. But it could be easily done by the higher ups. I hate to think that Manning could do it. But what if he got a phone call one night and it said if he doesn't give the Saints a good chance of winning that he could kiss the hall of fame goodbye. I'm not saying that happened but couldn't it easily have happened?? And then you have the chance of people getting paid off by the NFL to throw an interception or fumble the ball. Say 100,000 for every fumble or 80,000 for every interception. What would you do with the offer??

How about a more morbid scenario in which Manning gets a call or a letter saying if he doesn't do such and such, he'd better watch out for his family...etc.

Like I said, there are many very rich and very powerful people who have large, vested interests in the outcomes of many games. That fact alone should throw up a red flag.

Where there's money to be had, the scumbags school up and circle. Sports, politics, Wall Street, and everything else. Again, that's not proof of any wrongdoing, but it does make one think.

Using that argument, all the crooked people would have to be on the same side...right?  Otherwise, bothQBs get a threat and we end up with a 0-0 game going into OT. :-/

[Uncle Leo]

It's possible, but in the case of Payton Manning do you not consider him highly competitive and a bit of a perfectionist? If you do then he just screwed up in the heat of the moment. I do not believe in this case it was rigged.

[Taylor Fishin 4 life]

i dont know but payton looked lliked he was about to throw up his intestines there at the end when he threw that interception

[Korea_Bassin]

IMO the turning point of the game was when Garcon dropped the 1st down pass in the first half when Indy was up 10-0 and driving. The Saints went on to score a FG off that and never let up thereafter. Gutsy call to start off the second half with the onsides kick and I'll have to say it was a very entertaining game. Not too sloppy, not many penalties...just a good game...although Manning has done better. Hats off to the Saints.

[Catt]

Yeah Peterson had 7 fumbles on the year and he fumbled the ball all the way back to high school but 4 in one night! I think that's how many times he fumbled in that game. And then I know Favre is the master of interceptions. But running and throwing BACK across the field in that situation was wayyy too fishy for me. I'm just saying I hope that these games aren't rigged and I've never really thought about it until now. But it could be easily done by the higher ups. I hate to think that Manning could do it. But what if he got a phone call one night and it said if he doesn't give the Saints a good chance of winning that he could kiss the hall of fame goodbye. I'm not saying that happened but couldn't it easily have happened?? And then you have the chance of people getting paid off by the NFL to throw an interception or fumble the ball. Say 100,000 for every fumble or 80,000 for every interception. What would you do with the offer??[/quote]

Dude do you even know how much these guys make per game?

[dave]

I saw this thread at the opening bell. Surprised it's on page two already.

[senile1]

I'm not surprised. This is an interesting topic. While I don't think there was anything underhanded in last night's game, I can't say the same thing for the Superbowl in early 2006 between the Steelers and the Seahawks. I was rooting for the Steelers because I wanted Jerome Bettis to get a SB win before he retired, but the Seahawks were absolutely robbed by officiating that bordered on shear cheating. For instance:

Hasselhoff threw an interception and when he made the tackle he was flagged for an "illegal" low tackle. How does anyone make an illegal low tackle?

Rothlisberger attempted to call a timeout a full second after the play clock ran out. There was no delay of game penalty. He was given the timeout.

There were other highly questionable calls in that Superbowl that went against the Seahawks. The officiating affected the outcome of the game in a big way. As I stated above, I wanted the Steelers to win but after watching the game, I didn't feel good about it at all.

The big question: Were these normal officiating mistakes or was something fishy going on? Because of the severity and the quantity of the mistakes that hurt the Seahawks, I believe it was the latter.

[Matt Fly]

Rigged?    Like rigged by the NFL?????      LOL

   Can someone be bought to help throw a game?   Maybe, maybe someone who is in trouble with bookies that don't won't the world to find out he is a "Pete Rose" figure.

    Think about that.   What positions make the most money and would not be approachable due to not needing the money, yet is in a position to directly effect the outcome of a game.

I can assure you, Peyton Manning wanted the 2nd ring more than he wanted that INT.    And he has more money than a bookie could offer him to TARNISH his family name.   Too funny!!!

   Anytime human judgement helps decide the outcome of contests, there will always be second guessing.

      To err is human!  Its a fact of life whether in sports or ever day life.   

   

   

    

    

    

[BassDeaton01]

Yeah Peterson had 7 fumbles on the year and he fumbled the ball all the way back to high school but 4 in one night! I think that's how many times he fumbled in that game. And then I know Favre is the master of interceptions. But running and throwing BACK across the field in that situation was wayyy too fishy for me. I'm just saying I hope that these games aren't rigged and I've never really thought about it until now. But it could be easily done by the higher ups. I hate to think that Manning could do it. But what if he got a phone call one night and it said if he doesn't give the Saints a good chance of winning that he could kiss the hall of fame goodbye. I'm not saying that happened but couldn't it easily have happened?? And then you have the chance of people getting paid off by the NFL to throw an interception or fumble the ball. Say 100,000 for every fumble or 80,000 for every interception. What would you do with the offer??[/quote]

Dude do you even know how much these guys make per game?

Dude...yeah I realize how much the superstars get paid. I know there will be naysayers with everything. But with how much money the NFL makes don't be so naive to not think there are under the table deals going on to get the right outcome of big games. Do you not know how many big time millionaires bet on these games and cant throw some money around to get the right outcome??

[llPa1nll]

This is kind of a silly thread. Is the NFL rigged? No. It would cost them more money to rehab their tarnished credibility than what they would get. Even if the NFL was rigged. I am pretty sure they would want bigger market teams in the SB than Colts vs Saints, something along the lines of Steelers vs Cowboys.

I mean these players with contracts earning what you and I earn in a year, they earn in a week.

[bocabasser]

The Colts got to predictable, that pass was their favorite play in that situation and Porter read it and under cut the route...excellent defense.

Peterson is known for coughing up the ball all the way back to high school

finally! someone who actually knows football! anyone who has ever played football knows that teams have their "go to" plays and that was one of the colts'. i work with some guys who are saying that payton "threw" that game and i just laugh at them. that was a GREAT defensive play. i just wish more nfl db's would start making them. nowadays most nfl db's are too afraid to take chances. deion sanders was the absolute best and taking those chances.

the nfl rigged? that is as comical as brett favre being overrated.

[Tin]

Riiged no,  but corrupt yes. The refs make calls in the favor of certain players (Brady, Manning, Brees) all the time and not others (Farve, TO).

Now I'm not saying that the refs helped Brees and Manning get to the Super Bowl but the NFL has even come out and said certain calls should have been made against both teams. Also, a lot of the pass interference calls are bs. It's like some teams just bomb the ball up and hope either the refs see something. Pass interference needs to become a 10 or 15 yard penatly and an automatic 1st instead of these awful 40-60 yard penalties.

[Dan:]

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad the Saints won and I think they deserve it. But how many times has Peyton Manning basically threw the ball to the other team with the game on the line? I mean the receiver might have ran the wrong route but he looked like he just said here's the game Saints and threw the ball to the defender. And then in the NFC championship game with Peterson fumbling x amount of times and Favre throwing that dumb pass at the end for an interception. Peterson hardly EVER fumbled during the regular season. Then this topic takes me back to the Patriots winning the SB after 9/11. Maybe just a coincendence right? I hope this is not the case and this is the reason College football is better than pro IMO. I know I may get thrashed for this post and it may even get deleted but this is a possibilty.

Incorrect. Peterson fumbled more than any other RB in the last two years.