Thief

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Guys,you have to remember everybody makes mistakes.Lord knows i did.I don't hate him at all,i feel sorry for him in a sense and hope he gets some kind of help to beat this stealing addiction he may have.His better judgment got beat by the bait monkey(Possibly a evil twin? ;D).There's a lesson to be learned from this...specially the young kids who can't afford stuff we sometimes show off.Some people have a problem with materialist.It can be a big,big problem and turn into an addiction.He probably couldn't afford the price tag so swapping stickers became his obsession.

I'm just looking at this another way.

Hopefully he'll man up,clean up and get help.That's my prayer for him.

That's the truth. Yall probably brought this on him! Way to go you bunch of show offs, took a good man and turned him into a criminal! ;D

[fishfordollars]

My tackle addiction has got to be worse than a drug habbit.

Lord knows I could not afford both.

[NOVA Angler]

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All I'm saying is, if employees knew how do their job they wouldn't be having this problem.

This way of thinking is partially what's wrong with our country.  I guess some people don't believe in individual responsibility and accountability anymore.  Sort of goes back to the argument that spoons are responsible for people being fat.  I don't know where your logic comes from, but it makes me wonder why you are trying to justify it.  I don't disagree that a flag should have been raised when he paid $64 for a flat screen, but trying to place the blame on Wal-Mart employees is just a bunch of BS.  I guess I was just raised different... 

[Tokyo Tony]

Why do people victimize and sympathize with criminals? This guy is just a thief. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his own fault, 100%, and he should pay the consequences.

As Maude Lebowski said, "[He] is most certainly the perpetrator, not the victim."

[Grey Wolf]

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All I'm saying is, if employees knew how do their job they wouldn't be having this problem.

This way of thinking is partially what's wrong with our country. I guess some people don't believe in individual responsibility and accountability anymore. Sort of goes back to the argument that spoons are responsible for people being fat. I don't know where your logic comes from, but it makes me wonder why you are trying to justify it. I don't disagree that a flag should have been raised when he paid $64 for a flat screen, but trying to place the blame on Wal-Mart employees is just a bunch of BS. I guess I was just raised different...

  There are many people in this world like "The Natural" and sad to say with over 25000 members some of them might be on this sight.

[Lucky Craft Man]

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Just a friendly reminder

I'm sure The_Natural is reading this...............

Glad I didn't buy anything from him, he does not have my address

I'm sure he is reading these.  He last log in on TT was last night at 9:31pm, so even though he was banned from here, I'm sure he is still lurking.

Is he still considered on the run?  Imagine having to avoid authorities all the time.  That would just be a miserable existence.  His best bet is to just turn himself in and deal with what comes.  In the long run, that has to be an easier answer then trying to hide.

[Bassn Blvd]

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Why do people victimize and sympathize with criminals? This guy is just a thief. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his own fault, 100%, and he should pay the consequences.

As Maude Lebowski said, "[He] is most certainly the perpetrator, not the victim."

I have been saying the same thing from the beginning.  And what gets me are the ones who claim to be his "internet" friend.  Come on guys, wake up.  This clown became your "friend" by posting a few fishing topics and giving you some good tips.  After becoming YOUR friend he went and sold YOU stolen property.

Geeeeeez, who needs enemies with friends like him.

[NOVA Angler]

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Why do people victimize and sympathize with criminals? This guy is just a thief. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his own fault, 100%, and he should pay the consequences.

As Maude Lebowski said, "[He] is most certainly the perpetrator, not the victim."

I have been saying the same thing from the beginning. And what gets me are the ones who claim to be his "internet" friend. Come on guys, wake up. This clown became your "friend" by posting a few fishing topics and giving you some good tips. After becoming YOUR friend he went and sold YOU stolen property.

Geeeeeez, who needs enemies with friends like him.

Well said my friend.

[jamarkwe]

I think he had someone on the inside to gank $19,000 worth of goods from one store.....

Also how would the store know he scammed $19,000 worth of merchandise and not stop him before it reached that amount....Did they keep track of his scams over time on a flow chart and just not do anything about it?

[NOVA Angler]

He probably paid with a credit card or used a rewards card (I assume Cabelas has one).  That would make it easy to track.  They probably went back and viewed security footage after they caught on to him.

[RobbyZ5001]

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I think he had someone on the inside to gank $19,000 worth of goods from one store.....

Also how would the store know he scammed $19,000 worth of merchandise and not stop him before it reached that amount....Did they keep track of his scams over time on a flow chart and just not do anything about it?

I highly doubt that he had someone on the "inside", but who knows. Many Cabelas checkers and customer service are women. Do you honestly think the majority of those women would know the difference between a $20 rod and a $500 one? I am not sexist and I know there are some women out there that know a Steez from an Ugly Stick, but for the most part... they don't. It seems most of the stealing was from Cabelas, and I know Cabelas tracks returns. When you return an item to Cabelas they ask for your Drivers License and I am sure the information is put into a database. If you think about it 19,000 could only be 30-40 items possibly even less.

[jamarkwe]

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I think he had someone on the inside to gank $19,000 worth of goods from one store.....

Also how would the store know he scammed $19,000 worth of merchandise and not stop him before it reached that amount....Did they keep track of his scams over time on a flow chart and just not do anything about it?

I highly doubt that he had someone on the "inside", but who knows. Many Cabelas checkers and customer service are women. Do you honestly think the majority of those women would know the difference between a $20 rod and a $500 one? I am not sexist and I know there are some women out there that know a Steez from an Ugly Stick, but for the most part... they don't. It seems most of the stealing was from Cabelas, and I know Cabelas tracks returns. When you return an item to Cabelas they ask for your Drivers License and I am sure the information is put into a database. If you think about it 19,000 could only be 30-40 items possibly even less.

Ah I see, said the blind man...

[Root beer]

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This way of thinking is partially what's wrong with our country. I guess some people don't believe in individual responsibility and accountability anymore. Sort of goes back to the argument that spoons are responsible for people being fat. I don't know where your logic comes from, but it makes me wonder why you are trying to justify it. I don't disagree that a flag should have been raised when he paid $64 for a flat screen, but trying to place the blame on Wal-Mart employees is just a bunch of BS. I guess I was just raised different...

I believe in being held accountable for my own action. You just said, you would agree that a flag should have been thrown when someone buys a big screen TV for $64 bucks. The employees should be approached by managers saying they made a big mistake and should be accounted for that, so that it will not happen again.... My grandfather was top manager at Wal-Mart and prior to that he was a store manager of a grocery store chain. I showed him this story he was just disgusted with how they let him walk out like that. He thinks both employees and the thief should be held accountable.

[farmpond1]

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Been thinking about this, is it technically considered stealing/stolen good since he did pay for it, sure not full price but he did pay something..

Supposing your argument was valid, you're saying fraud is okay?

[Root beer]

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Once purchased, police said he sometimes would return the items and get the full amount back on a gift card then do more shopping.

Here what I cannot figured out, say he bought the tv for $64 bucks, and returned it for $600. If he showed a receipt it should have said he bought it at $64. He should have never got the real price back in full.

I assumed the employees are not that stupid, therefore, I have reason to believe this took place at Wal-Mart and he told them he "lost" his receipt and Wal-Mart says "no problem, here your gift card."  Even my grandfather will tell you, this is most B.S. policy of them all. Of course 600 dollar loss is insignificance to Wal-Mart, but a loss is a loss. And it a great loophole for thief to steal something and return the item for cash or gift cards.  :

[Grey Wolf]

just a little bit.

[Jimzee]

Wow guys, just now seeing this and just completely shocked, dumbfounded, let down, and any other bad feeling you can think of.

Just wow!! I vouched for Michael on many occasions in the flea market section. I have purchased a few things in the past off him too with no bad transactions. This is just too much to deal with.

Glenn, if you are reading this and speaking to the authorities, I have made a few transactions with Michael in the past. Please let me know what I need to do via PM if you have to.

[NOVA Angler]

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Once purchased, police said he sometimes would return the items and get the full amount back on a gift card then do more shopping.

Here what I cannot figured out, say he bought the tv for $64 bucks, and returned it for $600. If he showed a receipt it should have said he bought it at $64. He should have never got the real price back in full.

I assumed the employees are not that stupid, therefore, I have reason to believe this took place at Wal-Mart and he told them he "lost" his receipt and Wal-Mart says "no problem, here your gift card." Even my grandfather will tell you, this is most B.S. policy of them all. Of course 600 dollar loss is insignificance to Wal-Mart, but a loss is a loss. And it a great loophole for thief to steal something and return the item for cash or gift cards. :

Ubelievable.  You call that a loop hole?  Wal-Mart does this because they know people will make purchases there knowing they can take the product back if they aren't happy with it.  Regardless if they threw the receipt away.  That's peace of mind to the consumer.  You call it a loop hole I call it customer service.  I guess I don't think of things from the perspective of a thief.   

[Root beer]

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Once purchased, police said he sometimes would return the items and get the full amount back on a gift card then do more shopping.

Here what I cannot figured out, say he bought the tv for $64 bucks, and returned it for $600. If he showed a receipt it should have said he bought it at $64. He should have never got the real price back in full.

I assumed the employees are not that stupid, therefore, I have reason to believe this took place at Wal-Mart and he told them he "lost" his receipt and Wal-Mart says "no problem, here your gift card." Even my grandfather will tell you, this is most B.S. policy of them all. Of course 600 dollar loss is insignificance to Wal-Mart, but a loss is a loss. And it a great loophole for thief to steal something and return the item for cash or gift cards. :

Ubelievable. You call that a loop hole? Wal-Mart does this because they know people will make purchases there knowing they can take the product back if they aren't happy with it. Regardless if they threw the receipt away. That's peace of mind to the consumer. You call it a loop hole I call it customer service. I guess I don't think of things from the perspective of a thief.

Well, thief are apparently taking advantage of it. : Case in point, it in the link on first page of this thread. :

[NewAngler]

From what I understand Cabela's is the larger victim of the two. I'm not quite sure why Bubbly Beverage is defending someone who has put a company out $19K. To some companies, 19 thou would put them out of business, mine included. And as NOVA Angker said, their return policy is only one of the reasons why Wal Mart has a not only a better track record, but much deeper wallets.

My guess is that he had someone on the inside. 19 thousand is a lot of gear.

I have no sympathy for this guy, but remember seeing a post that he had a family, so I feel for his kids as his wife probably was somehow involved.

[Uncle Leo]

Bar Room Law 101 geez guys let it go. Bubba will get his day with this guy no matter how we debate it.

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From what I understand Cabela's is the larger victim of the two. I'm not quite sure why Bubbly Beverage is defending someone who has put a company out $19K. To some companies, 19 thou would put them out of business, mine included. And as NOVA Angker said, their return policy is only one of the reasons why Wal Mart has a not only a better track record, but much deeper wallets.

I'm not defending him, I just find it hilarious that the companies let this happen to them. I'm done beating this horse. 

[NewAngler]

Wait, did he get caught?

[Grey Wolf]

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Wait, did he get caught?

He got caught on camera , he's still on the llam.

[Tin]

The guy did some shady crap and now it has caught up with him. But stupidity or just not caring on the part of stores and workers 'is to blame as well. Like in most downfalls, he was doing fine until it seemed like he got really greedy.