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And the correct answer is...

'69 Ford Mustang 429 BOSS

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03 and 04  Mustangs????????????????????????????????????????

UGLY and SLOW.    (ugly is opinion, slow is fact)    But neither are 'sexy'.

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(anyone that's every been to the drag races can verify that Trans Ams, camaros, and even firebirds (formula) kill those Ford's at the line.   Kill them.)

(it's not your fault, that's just what happens when companies decide to put corvette engines in everything)

I agree my GTO would smoke any stock Mach 1, GT and most modded GT's.  The only thing Ford made worth anything in 03-04 was the Terminators...

What year is your GTO? Those newer ones not 2010 new but like 04s or w/e they had were a disgrace to GTO's that were made back in the day. I have a hard time believing you SMOKE mach 1s. I just looked up the manual 2010 GTO will run 13.8s in the quarter mile and the 2004 Mach 1s will run 13.2s. Not saying these are true of what you can do or someone better could do in the GTO but I'm saying the mach 1 driver would have to suck at driving for you to "smoke" him.

come on, anyone that knows anythign about cars knows you can't compare magazine 1/4 mile times and call it a day. 13.8 in a 6.0 GTO is a pretty crappy time. I know a guy with just headers running low 12's in a manual 6.0. Majority of good drivers are somewhere in the low 13 range, and some people have hit 12's bone stock.

Also, to your other post, you have to look at WEIGHT as well as hp. Power to weight ratio is more important than hp, as well as looking at the full power band. If a car makes 30 more peak whp, but the rest of the power band the other car has the advantage, that 30 peak means nothing. This is why a car like a lotus with 185-210 hp blows away cars with double the power.

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03 and 04 Mustangs????????????????????????????????????????

UGLY and SLOW. (ugly is opinion, slow is fact) But neither are 'sexy'.

b

(anyone that's every been to the drag races can verify that Trans Ams, camaros, and even firebirds (formula) kill those Ford's at the line. Kill them.)

(it's not your fault, that's just what happens when companies decide to put corvette engines in everything)

I agree my GTO would smoke any stock Mach 1, GT and most modded GT's. The only thing Ford made worth anything in 03-04 was the Terminators...

What year is your GTO? Those newer ones not 2010 new but like 04s or w/e they had were a disgrace to GTO's that were made back in the day. I have a hard time believing you SMOKE mach 1s. I just looked up the manual 2010 GTO will run 13.8s in the quarter mile and the 2004 Mach 1s will run 13.2s. Not saying these are true of what you can do or someone better could do in the GTO but I'm saying the mach 1 driver would have to suck at driving for you to "smoke" him.

I have had two 06's, and they were by FAR a disgrace.  Just because Pontiac didnt go with the "retro" look doesnt mean it was a disgrace.  They put plenty of power into the cars to make them a worthy contender on the street.  They only made two models, one with a six speed manual tranny and a 4 speed auto.  How many models of Mustangs are made that year?  Well lets see, SLOW 6 banger that is on every corner, slow GT that is on every corner, just as slow builit, little faster Mach 1 and the very impressive Terminator.  You tell me one car out of the box that you can get for under 30 grand or right at 30 that can run high 12's in 04-06?  Not the Terminators, Shelby definitely bent people over on price on that one, not the Mach 1...

I am not to sure where you got the 13.8 1/4 mile time?  They stopped making GTO's in 06 and unfortunately Pontiac is no more.  Maybe you are mistake with the G8??  Which the G8 would still beat any stock GT...  Or maybe you were thinking of the G8 GXP which runs 12.9 flat in the 1/4 which would put the Mach 1 in its place, or the Regular G8 GT which runs a 13.2 in the 1/4 mile which runs right with the Mach 1?

Sorry for the rant, I just hate it when people talk about cars that dont know what they are really talking about...

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03 and 04 Mustangs????????????????????????????????????????

UGLY and SLOW. (ugly is opinion, slow is fact) But neither are 'sexy'.

b

(anyone that's every been to the drag races can verify that Trans Ams, camaros, and even firebirds (formula) kill those Ford's at the line. Kill them.)

(it's not your fault, that's just what happens when companies decide to put corvette engines in everything)

I agree my GTO would smoke any stock Mach 1, GT and most modded GT's. The only thing Ford made worth anything in 03-04 was the Terminators...

What year is your GTO? Those newer ones not 2010 new but like 04s or w/e they had were a disgrace to GTO's that were made back in the day. I have a hard time believing you SMOKE mach 1s. I just looked up the manual 2010 GTO will run 13.8s in the quarter mile and the 2004 Mach 1s will run 13.2s. Not saying these are true of what you can do or someone better could do in the GTO but I'm saying the mach 1 driver would have to suck at driving for you to "smoke" him.

come on, anyone that knows anythign about cars knows you can't compare magazine 1/4 mile times and call it a day. 13.8 in a 6.0 GTO is a pretty crappy time. I know a guy with just headers running low 12's in a manual 6.0. Majority of good drivers are somewhere in the low 13 range, and some people have hit 12's bone stock.

Also, to your other post, you have to look at WEIGHT as well as hp. Power to weight ratio is more important than hp, as well as looking at the full power band. If a car makes 30 more peak whp, but the rest of the power band the other car has the advantage, that 30 peak means nothing. This is why a car like a lotus with 185-210 hp blows away cars with double the power.

Anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars knows that the gto is not at all what it should be. It's pretty sad that it runs lows 13s maybe 12s stock. When a mach 1 runs low 13s stock. It all depends on the driver which anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars know. You "SMOKING" Mach 1 might be true if your racing 16 year olds with daddys car. You know that, and I know that. The terminator is an 04 that can hit twelves in WELL under 30k. The newer GTOs are NOT a big deal. Anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars obviously know weight makes a difference. Which is why civics and ricers think they're the shht. Point is, your "gto" is not a bad a$$ machine. Sorry!

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that was quite the rant lol... very simple boltons and slicks and you're 11's in a gto... I don't see how that is considered pathetic, or not what it should be. Maybe bone stock it's not that fast, but it takes well to mods, and how many cars in that price range are "fast" stock. Majority of cars take a lil work out of the box.

but the same can be said about the mach1... that's like saying a mach 1 is pathetic because base corvettes run low 12's stock.

Just because one car is faster than another car, it doesn't make the other one pathetic. It will keep going up the food chain, there's always going to be a faster car.

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Seems like he's just paper racing, and doesn't really know much about the cars.

Hahaha you mean gran turismo doesn't count as knowing anything about cars?! ;D

I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm out in a garage working on these guys knowing exactly what they can do. I have been to the drag strip with a few mustang enthusiasts and seen what those GTO can do stock, and I've seen what a Mach 1 can do stock/modded on the strip anything more you know more than me, mainly because you OWN one of the cars your talking about. But from what I have seen, similar skilled drivers racing, 9.9 times out of 10 GTOs will always come ahead stock v stock. But you can NOT sit there and say the 03-04 cobra was the only good car ford made and the ONLY reason you SMOKE machs is because you are obviously far better of a driver than them.

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that was quite the rant lol... very simple boltons and slicks and you're 11's in a gto... I don't see how that is considered pathetic, or not what it should be. Maybe bone stock it's not that fast, but it takes well to mods, and how many cars in that price range are "fast" stock. Majority of cars take a lil work out of the box.

but the same can be said about the mach1... that's like saying a mach 1 is pathetic because base corvettes run low 12's stock.

Just because one car is faster than another car, it doesn't make the other one pathetic. It will keep going up the food chain, there's always going to be a faster car.

GTO is pathetic by no means, I was exaggerating quite a bit when i said a disgrace. It is an impressive car but the value isn't what it should be. It appeared to me that you thought Mach 1s were junk and GTOs are far superior which I of course being a mustang fan will get defensive. Modded is a whole nother story, besides the 04 cobra only being around 20k for over 400 to the wheel, stock stock the GTO will beat a mach but not "smoke"

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03 and 04 Mustangs????????????????????????????????????????

UGLY and SLOW. (ugly is opinion, slow is fact) But neither are 'sexy'.

b

(anyone that's every been to the drag races can verify that Trans Ams, camaros, and even firebirds (formula) kill those Ford's at the line. Kill them.)

(it's not your fault, that's just what happens when companies decide to put corvette engines in everything)

I agree my GTO would smoke any stock Mach 1, GT and most modded GT's. The only thing Ford made worth anything in 03-04 was the Terminators...

What year is your GTO? Those newer ones not 2010 new but like 04s or w/e they had were a disgrace to GTO's that were made back in the day. I have a hard time believing you SMOKE mach 1s. I just looked up the manual 2010 GTO will run 13.8s in the quarter mile and the 2004 Mach 1s will run 13.2s. Not saying these are true of what you can do or someone better could do in the GTO but I'm saying the mach 1 driver would have to suck at driving for you to "smoke" him.

I have had two 06's, and they were by FAR a disgrace. Just because Pontiac didnt go with the "retro" look doesnt mean it was a disgrace. They put plenty of power into the cars to make them a worthy contender on the street. They only made two models, one with a six speed manual tranny and a 4 speed auto. How many models of Mustangs are made that year? Well lets see, SLOW 6 banger that is on every corner, slow GT that is on every corner, just as slow builit, little faster Mach 1 and the very impressive Terminator. You tell me one car out of the box that you can get for under 30 grand or right at 30 that can run high 12's in 04-06? Not the Terminators, Shelby definitely bent people over on price on that one, not the Mach 1...

I am not to sure where you got the 13.8 1/4 mile time? They stopped making GTO's in 06 and unfortunately Pontiac is no more. Maybe you are mistake with the G8?? Which the G8 would still beat any stock GT... Or maybe you were thinking of the G8 GXP which runs 12.9 flat in the 1/4 which would put the Mach 1 in its place, or the Regular G8 GT which runs a 13.2 in the 1/4 mile which runs right with the Mach 1?

Sorry for the rant, I just hate it when people talk about cars that dont know what they are really talking about...

Man i need to quit reading this post. I have NO idea what bs site I got the imaginary 2010's GTOs specs from but obviously i don't keep up with gtos or pontiacs or gms for that matter and it's been forever since I've been to the track. I just know I've never seen a GTO "smoke" a mach 1. GT500s are so overpriced it's upsetting. I'm done "ranting" now.

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03 and 04 Mustangs????????????????????????????????????????

UGLY and SLOW. (ugly is opinion, slow is fact) But neither are 'sexy'.

b

(anyone that's every been to the drag races can verify that Trans Ams, camaros, and even firebirds (formula) kill those Ford's at the line. Kill them.)

(it's not your fault, that's just what happens when companies decide to put corvette engines in everything)

I agree my GTO would smoke any stock Mach 1, GT and most modded GT's. The only thing Ford made worth anything in 03-04 was the Terminators...

What year is your GTO? Those newer ones not 2010 new but like 04s or w/e they had were a disgrace to GTO's that were made back in the day. I have a hard time believing you SMOKE mach 1s. I just looked up the manual 2010 GTO will run 13.8s in the quarter mile and the 2004 Mach 1s will run 13.2s. Not saying these are true of what you can do or someone better could do in the GTO but I'm saying the mach 1 driver would have to suck at driving for you to "smoke" him.

come on, anyone that knows anythign about cars knows you can't compare magazine 1/4 mile times and call it a day. 13.8 in a 6.0 GTO is a pretty crappy time. I know a guy with just headers running low 12's in a manual 6.0. Majority of good drivers are somewhere in the low 13 range, and some people have hit 12's bone stock.

Also, to your other post, you have to look at WEIGHT as well as hp. Power to weight ratio is more important than hp, as well as looking at the full power band. If a car makes 30 more peak whp, but the rest of the power band the other car has the advantage, that 30 peak means nothing. This is why a car like a lotus with 185-210 hp blows away cars with double the power.

Anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars knows that the gto is not at all what it should be. It's pretty sad that it runs lows 13s maybe 12s stock. When a mach 1 runs low 13s stock. It all depends on the driver which anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars know. You "SMOKING" Mach 1 might be true if your racing 16 year olds with daddys car. You know that, and I know that. The terminator is an 04 that can hit twelves in WELL under 30k. The newer GTOs are NOT a big deal. Anyone that knows ANYTHING about cars obviously know weight makes a difference. Which is why civics and ricers think they're the shht. Point is, your "gto" is not a bad . machine. Sorry!

Please show me where someone bought a brand new Terminator for under 30 grand...  I beg you!  lol, in your last post you said something about the GT500 being so overprice its not even funny, well what do you think the Terminators were back in 03-04????  Let me tell you, they were overpriced... Come on man, just do a little research before you start posting nonsense... 

The Mach 1 maybe a nice car, but to me its just a re badged mustang with a little more horse power...  I mean come on Ford had to put forced induction to keep up with Chevy, Pontiac, and Dodge.  You also said "beating a Mach 1 might be true if your racing 16 year olds with daddys car".  To tell you the truth I think my sister can beat a Mach 1 giving her about a week to practice.

You also said ANYBODY that knows ANYTHING about cars obviously know weight/hp makes a difference.  Thats why Ford decided to put a 305hp/320ft tq in a car that weighs 3465lbs, and Pontiac decided to put 400hp/400ft tq in a 3700 lbs car.  Also to help you out 1 tenth of a second equals 1 car length at the track.  So if we were magazine racing your Mach 1 would be down 4 cars to the GTO, and WS6...

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Please show me where someone bought a brand new Terminator for under 30 grand... I beg you! lol, in your last post you said something about the GT500 being so overprice its not even funny, well what do you think the Terminators were back in 03-04???? Let me tell you, they were overpriced... Come on man, just do a little research before you start posting nonsense...

The Mach 1 maybe a nice car, but to me its just a re badged mustang with a little more horse power... I mean come on Ford had to put forced induction to keep up with Chevy, Pontiac, and Dodge. You also said "beating a Mach 1 might be true if your racing 16 year olds with daddys car". To tell you the truth I think my sister can beat a Mach 1 giving her about a week to practice.

You also said ANYBODY that knows ANYTHING about cars obviously know weight/hp makes a difference. Thats why Ford decided to put a 305hp/320ft tq in a car that weighs 3465lbs, and Pontiac decided to put 400hp/400ft tq in a 3700 lbs car. Also to help you out 1 tenth of a second equals 1 car length at the track. So if we were magazine racing your Mach 1 would be down 4 cars to the GTO, and WS6...

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What? When they came out yeah they were slightly overpriced. The GTO was overpriced in my opinion by quite a bit. PRESENT time you can get an 04 cobra making serious power under 30k. Go to craigslist/autotrader anywhere you can get a used terminator (a 2003 or 2004 cobra) for around 18k maybe a little less if you look hard enough. Not to mention yeah most every time the GTO will outrun a mach 1. Not smoke by any means. You don't know anything about fords is what it is. Ford put forced induction to make it make 305 hp? Hahaha ford threw in the 32v v8 instead of that weak 16v which pushed it up that much. I'm not sure if i'd said that sweet looking hood is doing anything at all for that mach 1 though. Weight makes a difference but when they are making close to the same 1/4 times and were arguing those 2 cars you can't really say much about the weight difference. You don't think Pontiac could've made that tank any lighter? "Magazine racing" the GTO is not impressive. 1/4 mile and 1/8 mile racing at the local drag strip, the GTO is not impressive. Thats that. Anything else PM me and we'll argue there because I'm not trying to get banned over pointless bantering when obviously were going in circles and claiming the same thing. The GTO will beat a mach 1.

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The topic is sexy cars, not new era gto's and mustangs, which are not sexy cars cars.

The lines of the 60's gto's made them sexy, I had a 69 mach 1, 4 speed largest engine and running side pipes, many excessive noise tickets, great ride but even that car was far from the sexiest of that period.  Paid $3144.

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Nothing even come close to this

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A half naked child in the picture makes that truck seem not soo tough.   ;D

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Speaking on sexy cars, did anyone see the footage of the dude in League City/Galveston Tx,drive his :oBugatti Veyron :o into the marsh. HAHA. Million dollar cars and saltwater do not mix.I'll try to post a video. If it don't work just google it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leP0W8Y8xUw&feature=related

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