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[Glenn]

The Even More and Even More Plus plans are indeed unlimited calling to any phone, on any network, land or mobile (say "goodbye" to calling circles).  You can also get unlimited text and unlimited data as well.  All starting at $50/month.  This indeed a recent development.

Sprint's plans are only mobile-to-mobile.  Any mobile, on any network, but doesn't include land lines (at least as far as I know.  Their ads are very specific about it being mobile-to-mobile).  4G is a neat marketing gimmick, but even Sprint isn't using it yet.  So it's moot.

Only T-Mobile offers no contract options, which is what the link in my first post was all about.

Sorry this turned into a long thread.  It wasn't my intent.  I doubt there's any one carrier that works best for everyone.  It completely depends upon your calling and data habits, as well as your location.  Seriously,  it doesn't matter who has the largest network. It only matters that the network works in your area, with few dropped calls (if any).  And as I stated before, lots of coverage doesn't equate to better service.

No doubt Verizon has better coverage in remote areas more than other carriers, but don't assume that you're automatically covered.  Many times I've been out in rural areas where only my T-Mobile phone worked, and my friends with other phones didn't.  That's why an accurate coverage map is so important.  T-Mobile has one.

For full disclosure, yes, I work for T-Mobile.  As with Sprint, T-Mobile has recieved a bad rap for awhile about their coverage. But they outspent the competition 3:1 over the past few years building out their network - to the point it's nearly identical to the others now.  In fact, most all the carrier's coverage are about the same these days.  It's now really a matter of who has rolled out 3G the  most.  Verizon is ahead of the pack on that, which is why they are so focused on it now. To be sure, T-Mobile's 3G coverage isn't as big as Verizons, but that might not matter to you anyway.

Note that 3G ONLY affects data speed, meaning faster web browsing, and in some cases, faster apps.  So if you don't surf the web much on your phone, or don't use apps, 3G means squat to you.

Bottom line: Only T-Mobile offers unlimited talk, text, and data to anyone, anytime, at the lowest rate of anyone, AND with no contract!

Ok. I'm done sounding like a commercial.  Even I'M getting tired of hearing myself.  I simply wanted to clarify a few misconceptions.  I suggest checking out all the carriers when you're ready to switch, and see which one is best for your needs.

[senile1]

The Even More and Even More Plus plans are indeed unlimited calling to any phone, on any network, land or mobile (say "goodbye" to calling circles). You can also get unlimited text and unlimited data as well. All starting at $50/month. This indeed a recent development.

Sprint's plans are only mobile-to-mobile. Any mobile, on any network, but doesn't include land lines (at least as far as I know. Their ads are very specific about it being mobile-to-mobile). 4G is a neat marketing gimmick, but even Sprint isn't using it yet. So it's moot.

Only T-Mobile offers no contract options, which is what the link in my first post was all about.

Sorry this turned into a long thread. It wasn't my intent. I doubt there's any one carrier that works best for everyone. It completely depends upon your calling and data habits, as well as your location. Seriously, it doesn't matter who has the largest network. It only matters that the network works in your area, with few dropped calls (if any). And as I stated before, lots of coverage doesn't equate to better service.

No doubt Verizon has better coverage in remote areas more than other carriers, but don't assume that you're automatically covered. Many times I've been out in rural areas where only my T-Mobile phone worked, and my friends with other phones didn't. That's why an accurate coverage map is so important. T-Mobile has one.

For full disclosure, yes, I work for T-Mobile. As with Sprint, T-Mobile has recieved a bad rap for awhile about their coverage. But they outspent the competition 3:1 over the past few years building out their network - to the point it's nearly identical to the others now. In fact, most all the carrier's coverage are about the same these days. It's now really a matter of who has rolled out 3G the most. Verizon is ahead of the pack on that, which is why they are so focused on it now. To be sure, T-Mobile's 3G coverage isn't as big as Verizons, but that might not matter to you anyway.

Note that 3G ONLY affects data speed, meaning faster web browsing, and in some cases, faster apps. So if you don't surf the web much on your phone, or don't use apps, 3G means squat to you.

Bottom line: Only T-Mobile offers unlimited talk, text, and data to anyone, anytime, at the lowest rate of anyone, AND with no contract!

Ok. I'm done sounding like a commercial. Even I'M getting tired of hearing myself. I simply wanted to clarify a few misconceptions. I suggest checking out all the carriers when you're ready to switch, and see which one is best for your needs.

Since these plans are a recent development you can expect one of the other carriers to undercut T-Mobile's prices soon. Sprint's Simply Everything Plan has been available since February 29th of this year. I expected someone to eventually match or undercut it.

As for clearing up misconceptions, you just created one by calling 4G a marketing gimmick. I hope T-Mobile and the other carriers do believe it's a gimmick (although another carrier in the top three knows it isn't a gimmick.) And while we're clearing up misconceptions maybe we should tell everyone that a large percentage of T-Mobile's customer base is on 2G, not 3G. T-Mobile is spending money to build out advanced 3G which could very well compete with 4G. Only time will tell. Clearwire, of which Sprint has 51 percent ownership, will be servicing 4G in approximately 25 markets as 2009 closes. So much for your statement that Sprint isn't using it yet. That's 25 markets in one year. This will only increase exponentially. (3G speeds reach 2.5 Megabits per second while 4G can reach 100 megabits per second while moving and up to 1 Gigabit per second while stationary. These figures are posted by Mobile Insight.) All of those apps everyone wants to use will truly come into their own on 4G. Don't create the misconception that 3G is where it's at. Imagine having a cellphone that downloads data as fast or faster than your home computer with a broadband link. As Glenn stated, these speeds are important for data. If you just use your phone mostly for calls, the slower speeds will be fine for you.

I've been on this forum since 2005 and I've never tried to "sell" the company I work for even though I've seen a few bad things posted about Sprint based on past experience that no longer holds true. The reason I do that is because these types of threads can easily become as bad as political or religious threads. They only create tension among members with differing viewpoints and with over 25,000 members I'm sure there are others here who work for other carriers.  Hopefully, all of our companies can succeed at a level that will provide jobs and security to all of us in this difficult economic climate. 

[senile1]

I think he means DeathStar=Verizon, and AT&T is suing Verizon over their 3G coverage map ads.

The Verizon maps are actually very misleading.

I have AT&T coverage and get 3g coverage is many areas that are not on Verizon's maps. I haven't seen anything on the ads dating the AT&T maps, but I do know for a fact that I get 3g coverage is areas that the Verizon maps say that AT&T doesn't provide it.

The verizon maps are VERY VERY misleading thus the lawsuits!

The Verizon maps are pretty accurate. In the white areas on the map AT&T only offers 2G which is not a great standard for transmitting data. Could they be off by a little bit. Probably, but there isn't a huge difference between what AT&T offers and what the maps show on those commercials. 2G works fine for calls. The Verizon maps state that they are comparing 3G coverage, not full coverage. I'm sure this does mislead some people but that is due to the fact that people assume this is all coverage. The moral of the story: Read the labels on the maps. The fact remains that much of AT&T's network is 2G. With all of the iphones that have been sold, and with the amount of data that the average iphone user downloads, it was just a matter of time before their network became overloaded. A network with a large percentage of 2G combined with 3G can't handle all of that data at effective speeds.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10365952-266.html

If you go online and look at AT&T's own map they only provide one that displays their GSM (2G) coverage. If you click to see the 3G coverage they don't provide a map . . . . just a listing of cities. I've included the ATT 2G map image and the link to the list of 3G cities below. I've also included links to Verizon's, Sprint's and T-Mobile's maps. Much of T-Mobile's coverage is 2.5G (EDGE-GPRS) which is the purple color on their map (Funny that they don't show which is which because EDGE is better than GPRS. They also don't show their pure 2G areas.  I assume these must be included in these purple areas.) The very dark purple on T-Mobile's map is their 3G coverage. Sprint's areas are all 3G.

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.jsp

http://vzwmap.verizonwireless.com/dotcom/coveragelocator/images/maps/3Gcomparison.pdf

http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?MapType=Data

http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp

[Glenn]

Wow, I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. I honestly didn't think people were that sensitive. my mistake.

Apologies if I sound like I'm "pushing" T-Mobile. That's not my intent either. It's just that T-Mobile's marketing is very poor, and there's a lot of misconceptions and downright lies about the company that I feel compelled to clarify a few things.

I'm not going to get into a ticking contest between T-Mobile and other companies. And I'm especially not going to nitpick minor descrepencies between the different types of networks, for it this very thing that has consumers up in arms.

Tri-band, quad-band, GPRS, EDGE, 2G, 3G, 4G, etc. all are very, very confusing to people. People don't care! They just want to know if it works for them.

Again, apologies for this thread turning into a mess. My only intent was to let people know what the Even More plans are about; that they're worth checking out if you're looking to switch carriers. I know I've helped a number of people save money in the past, so I was hoping to help out a few more. I certainly didn't intend this to become a fight over which carrier is better, or to step on anyone's toes. Apologies if any feelings got hurt.

I've learned my lesson though. I won't talk about cell phones any longer, even though I've been in business for going on 8 years and am very qualified to speak about it. Clearly there are others on this forum that are quite qualified as well, but in all fairness, I must ask them to refrain from this topic too. It's a shame great knowledge must be suppressed because it upsets people.

To prevent any further hurt feelings, I am closing this thread. I don't want anyone getting bent out of shape over a cell phone.