Super User Tin Posted November 13, 2009 Super User Posted November 13, 2009 Joe Cada is the luckiest sob on the planet. I have never seen someone that crazy go all in on hands like pocket two's against pocket queens and pull it out. Where as the guy last year was hitting full houses and straights left and right when heads up, it seemed like Cada just played like he didn't care.it Nice 8.5 mill ion dollar pay day for a 21 year old. ;D Quote
daviscw Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 I think that's the rare example of when skill and balls are better than luck. He was up against some great competition. I like this streak of young players winning. Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 13, 2009 Author Super User Posted November 13, 2009 I really think Moon was the better player. He took out 5 guys from the final table. When a guy has 1% of the chips at the table and pulls it off, you know he has a horse-shoe up his arse. Quote
The Unabasser Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 Cada should have been out in the 20's...he got lucky 2 if not 3 times and kept doubling up hitting 1 & 2 outers... we'll see down the road just how good he is another Moneymaker?...most likely IMO Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 another Moneymaker?...most likely IMO I agree, although less marketable because the poker craze has come and gone, unfortunately, due to the ridiculous restrictions on internet play. If only it could be like it was in 2004, I wouldn't need my day job. Online poker is way tougher than it used to be. Quote
NewAngler Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 I agree, Tony. It is way harder today than is 2004. Cada is real lucky, and Moon is definately the better player. Cada did have some balls though, seemed like the heads up play went rather quickly. Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 13, 2009 Author Super User Posted November 13, 2009 another Moneymaker?...most likely IMO I agree, although less marketable because the poker craze has come and gone, unfortunately, due to the ridiculous restrictions on internet play. And because Phil Hellmouth made poker look like a spoiled-rich kids game. Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 another Moneymaker?...most likely IMO I agree, although less marketable because the poker craze has come and gone, unfortunately, due to the ridiculous restrictions on internet play. And because Phil Hellmouth made poker look like a spoiled-rich kids game. I actually don't even watch tournament poker anymore because they mostly show the late stages when the blinds-to-stack ratio is through the roof, which means a lot of bets are just shoving your whole pile in the middle and trying to look like a tough guy. All the chips are in pre-flop a lot of the time, which I find uninteresting. If you want to watch real poker, check out High Stakes Poker, where you see the best of the best (and some really rich, clueless amateurs) buy in for $100K to $1M of their own CASH and play a cash game. That's when you see some real skill, and that's when it's exciting to watch, IMO. (don't worry, I'm getting to the reason I quoted your Hellmuth statment Tin ;-) ) If you've seen the episodes in which Hellmuth tries his luck against REAL poker players, you'd lose any remaining respect you might have for him. Not only is he a whiny little girl, but he's really not that good. He made a name for himself by being able to read bad players who play in the World Series events. When you put him against the big guns, he almost always fails, and miserably. You should see these guys beat him in the cash game. They'll willingly call a big preflop raise with Q6o just cuz they know they can outplay him after the flop. It's pretty amusing. One hand I'll never forget from that show is when this guy Yukon (forgot his real name) bluffs Phil Ivey, who has pocket kings, by going all in for over $300K of his own cash when the flop comes all little cards (under 6 I believe). THAT'S called having balls, and knowing how to play the game. Quote
llPa1nll Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 How did Phil Ivey do? I had an acquaintance that was in the main event last year and earned a paycheck. No idea if he was in it this year. Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 13, 2009 Super User Posted November 13, 2009 I saw some bad poker at the final table. No way I call and go all in with QJ suited on a draw to end the championship. I also know that this is editted for TV and not every hand dealt is showed on TV. We might not have seen a few bluffs Cada got busted on prior and he was getting really low cards before the QJ suited came. Who knows? Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted November 13, 2009 Super User Posted November 13, 2009 Ivey got taken out in 7th place on a bad beat on the river. His AK dominated moons AQ, and just like the last time at the final table, his AK gets taken out by an AQ. Quote
The Unabasser Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Matt...I thought it was Cada that took him out with the lucky Q Quote
Shad_Master Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 No, I'm pretty sure it was Moon - up to that point they had been pretty chummy at the table and still ended on a friendly note. Quote
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