Super User South FLA Posted October 8, 2009 Super User Posted October 8, 2009 Anyone every have their brass detach from the plastic hull when cycling? I have been shooting Rio Field Loads through my Benelli M2 20 gauge and have had 3-4 episodes where the actual brass detaches from the hull. Upon ejection the brass gets caught jamming my gun as it cycles or last weekend on the dove field the brass was ejected but the plastic hull was left in the chamber, thank God the hull in the chamber prevented the next round from loading. I am wondering if my extractor is being a bit rough on the shells tearing the brass from the hull or if I have a bad batch of Rio Shells. I haven't experienced it with Federal, Remingtons, or Estate Cartridges, but I mostly shoot Rio ammo since I bought a bunch of flats 3 years ago. By the way its a very clean detachment the hull looks perfect and the brass is not dented or crushed, except if caught in the action upon cycling. Any ideas or input appreciated. Quote
Super User Micro Posted October 9, 2009 Super User Posted October 9, 2009 I've never heard of that. Ever. I've tried to pull a plastic hull out of the brass and couldn't do it without tearing up the hull. I think you got a batch of bad ammo. Quote
Super User South FLA Posted October 9, 2009 Author Super User Posted October 9, 2009 hand loads? No, Rio shells are manufactured in Spain, supposedly they are good quality shells with plastic piston wads. Quote
Super User Micro Posted October 9, 2009 Super User Posted October 9, 2009 I've never shot the stuff but isn't Rio sort of cheap ammo? If your hulls are being torn out of the brass, that sounds like an ammo problem to me. Like I said, I've disassembled shotgun shells and tried to tear the hulls out of the brass before. It aint easy. If the shells were assembled properly and it was the gun, you'd be having failures to eject or failures to return to battery. But the shells would stay together. I think you got a bad batch of ammo. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted October 9, 2009 Super User Posted October 9, 2009 what Micro said. ive hand loaded Remington Greens a butt load shooting trap and had cases crack but i have never had them separate from the brass. id give the left over ammo to someone with a single shot shotgun. then id buy winchester super x shotshells and know you wont have problems in the field. Quote
Super User South FLA Posted October 14, 2009 Author Super User Posted October 14, 2009 UPDATE I actually got a call back from Rio and they are sending me a case of replacement shells. Pretty good for customer service. Quote
ALbasser Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Never had any experience with those particular shells but I have never seen anything like that before. For trap shooting I use the cheapest remmington shells I can find (the green ones) and after I shoot them I will reload them 10-20 times before retiring them and never had a problem. IMO that is a darn great shell. Winchester are good as well but I use a Mossberg 835 a lot and winchester shells do not agree with most Mossbergs. Quote
Sfritr Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 sounds like a bad batch to me. Pitch em.. Stick with Remingtons or Winchesters Quote
1inStripes Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 I've never had that happen either. I have an older Browning Sweet 16 that jams alot, but I've never had a casing come away from the brass like that. Anyone ever shot Fiocci shotgun shells before? Quote
Pond Hopper Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 I've never had that happen either. I have an older Browning Sweet 16 that jams alot, but I've never had a casing come away from the brass like that. Anyone ever shot Fiocci shotgun shells before? Yes, and I would shoot them over just about any of the regular manufacturers for an upland load. And they reload very well IME. Quote
ALbasser Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 I've never had that happen either. I have an older Browning Sweet 16 that jams alot, but I've never had a casing come away from the brass like that. Anyone ever shot Fiocci shotgun shells before? Never shot any out of the box, but I have heard they are very well made shells. I have reloaded several that were given to me once shot. They reload very good, several times, just take different components than what I was used to with my usual remington greens and sts shells. Quote
1inStripes Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 Thanks for the info Pond Hopper and ALBasser. I may give a box a try then. I had never came across them before until back in the summer at a local sporting goods store. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 it does happen time to time. Its an ammo problem usually. Quote
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