Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 UPDATE..... The kid is back in school this morning. The school board voted unanimously to allow him back and stated the punishment was too much. The school board will be amending the zero tolerance rule for 1 st graders and infractions judged on by a case by case basis. Quote
SharkHat Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Serious topic, but I can't stop laughing at the mental images of surly second graders sharpening toothbrushes into shivs by scraping them on the playground pavement Quote
swilly78 Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Serious topic, but I can't stop laughing at the mental images of surly second graders sharpening toothbrushes into shivs by scraping them on the playground pavement LMAO! Quote
Pitchinkid Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Im only 29 years old, but I can remember taking shotguns, rifles, and bows to school and leaving them in the truck. After school, we would go hunting. A few faculty members did the same thing. To my knowledge nobody said nothin to anyone about it. Just goes to show you how this world has changed in the last 10 -15 years. Im sure there were laws saying it was illeagal for us to have these things on school property but like i said, we never had issues at our school with gangs, hate crimes, or shootings. Todays kids are just scared to take a butt whoopin so they gotta carry guns to make themselves tuff. I know its a far reach from a 6 year old with a eating utensil, but change is what it all comes down too. I disagree with the punishment the little feller got, but his parents should have thought a little harder and smarter on letting him take it. Quote
mattm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 Im only 29 years old, but I can remember taking shotguns, rifles, and bows to school and leaving them in the truck. After school, we would go hunting. A few faculty members did the same thing. To my knowledge nobody said nothin to anyone about it. Just goes to show you how this world has changed in the last 10 -15 years. Im sure there were laws saying it was illeagal for us to have these things on school property but like i said, we never had issues at our school with gangs, hate crimes, or shootings. Todays kids are just scared to take a butt whoopin so they gotta carry guns to make themselves tuff. I know its a far reach from a 6 year old with a eating utensil, but change is what it all comes down too. I disagree with the punishment the little feller got, but his parents should have thought a little harder and smarter on letting him take it. No offense, but if that is your logic shouldn't your parents have thought harder about carrying guns and bows to school. I'm not certain that I would of said no son you can't bring your swiss army knife to school. I'm only 30 and certain that when I was in school the country crowd would bring pocket knives to school, the ones where the knife is inside your pocket, but it clips to the outside of the pocket. So it was OBVIOUS that had a little tiny knife in their pocket, but I never once thought about going down to the principles office and saying OMG what are we going to do. I'm not saying that someone shouldn't of but thats clearly worse than a 6 year old with a spoon/fork/knife and that was ok at my school. Tough to blame the parents imo. Quote
Pitchinkid Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Im only 29 years old, but I can remember taking shotguns, rifles, and bows to school and leaving them in the truck. After school, we would go hunting. A few faculty members did the same thing. To my knowledge nobody said nothin to anyone about it. Just goes to show you how this world has changed in the last 10 -15 years. Im sure there were laws saying it was illeagal for us to have these things on school property but like i said, we never had issues at our school with gangs, hate crimes, or shootings. Todays kids are just scared to take a butt whoopin so they gotta carry guns to make themselves tuff. I know its a far reach from a 6 year old with a eating utensil, but change is what it all comes down too. I disagree with the punishment the little feller got, but his parents should have thought a little harder and smarter on letting him take it. No offense, but if that is your logic shouldn't your parents have thought harder about carrying guns and bows to school. I'm not certain that I would of said no son you can't bring your swiss army knife to school. I'm only 30 and certain that when I was in school the country crowd would bring pocket knives to school, the ones where the knife is inside your pocket, but it clips to the outside of the pocket. So it was OBVIOUS that had a little tiny knife in their pocket, but I never once thought about going down to the principles office and saying OMG what are we going to do. I'm not saying that someone shouldn't of but thats clearly worse than a 6 year old with a spoon/fork/knife and that was ok at my school. Tough to blame the parents imo. No offense takin. My parents brought me up to tell right from wrong and would know that i would never do something stupid. Im not saying that they were at the door in the morning saying ' SON, IT'S THE FIRST DAY OF BOW SEASON. DO YOU HAVE YOUR ARROWS, QUIVER, RELEASE, ENGLISH HOMEWORK.. They didnt like it, but i respected them and everything stayed in the truck. Just saying , with these times now and and all the lawsuits, killings, and all around duche baggery , parents have to be more cautious than ever.Im probabley wrong but It makes sence in my head. Quote
mattm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 Exactly my point. Our parents brought us up to know right from wrong. I'm sure by this crazy ZERO TOLERANCE rule we both did things on multiple occasions that would warrant a friggin 45 day suspension. How would you feel if it was you. We've only been out of school 11 and 12 years. The world hasn't changed that much. I would be totally on board with this if the kid had his knife to someones eye threating to stab it out. However, it sounds like the kid sat down at lunch and started eating his grilled chicken and vegatables with it when a teacher noticed it. Thats an honest mistake. Give him a warning and explain the parents if anything similar happens again it will be addressed as the child bringing a weapon to school. The article says in the same district kids have been suspened for a grandmother sending a knife to school with a cake for a birthday and someone using a boxcutter to cut windows out of a cardboard building that was a school project. All 3 cases complete crap if theres not more to the story which there doesn't appear to be. Quote
Pitchinkid Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 Exactly my point. Our parents brought us up to know right from wrong. I'm sure by this crazy ZERO TOLERANCE rule we both did things on multiple occasions that would warrant a friggin 45 day suspension. How would you feel if it was you. We've only been out of school 11 and 12 years. The world hasn't changed that much. I would be totally on board with this if the kid had his knife to someones eye threating to stab it out. However, it sounds like the kid sat down at lunch and started eating his grilled chicken and vegatables with it when a teacher noticed it. Thats an honest mistake. Give him a warning and explain the parents if anything similar happens again it will be addressed as the child bringing a weapon to school. The article says in the same district kids have been suspened for a grandmother sending a knife to school with a cake for a birthday and someone using a boxcutter to cut windows out of a cardboard building that was a school project. All 3 cases complete crap if theres not more to the story which there doesn't appear to be. i agree with you 90%. But i believe the world has drastically changed in the last 10-11 years. Some good but mostly bad. Quote
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