NewAngler Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Is there any law enforcement agency that is willing to pursue these people? I used to forward the Nigerian deals to the FBI, but never received any replies, so I gave up. > I did the same. The ones where they would send you money orders that had to be cashed at the bank? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 No. I only opened one after being warned by a friend NOT to ever open suspicious e-mails. The one I recall was for an odd number, like $3,830,00 or something. They needed $4-$5000 for "processing". I was told to send a certified check, SS# and bank account with wiring instructions. I forwared the e-mail to the FBI, but they never responded. > Quote
Super User Root beer Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 No. I only opened one after being warned by a friend NOT to ever open suspicious e-mails. The one I recall was for an odd number, like $3,830,00 or something. They needed $4-$5000 for "processing". I was told to send a certified check, SS# and bank account with wiring instructions. I forwared the e-mail to the FBI, but they never responded. > I can imagine it being pretty hard to crack a case like this with just one guy sending an email to FBI about this. They probably have disguised ISPs and things like that, that makes it harder for FBI to actually locate it. Even if they do, I can imagine they are sending emails from several public locations making it harder to narrow it down. I'm sure they read your email(s) just haven't had time to reply. Must had a budget cut back to hire a pretty office assistant to reply to all emails. The FBI DOES have a cyber investigation group, I can imagine they have their plates full. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 [i'm sure they read your email(s) just haven't had time to reply.] I'm not holding my breath, it's been at least ten years since these scams started popping up. Quote
llPa1nll Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 No. I only opened one after being warned by a friend NOT to ever open suspicious e-mails. The one I recall was for an odd number, like $3,830,00 or something. They needed $4-$5000 for "processing". I was told to send a certified check, SS# and bank account with wiring instructions. I forwared the e-mail to the FBI, but they never responded. > I can imagine it being pretty hard to crack a case like this with just one guy sending an email to FBI about this. They probably have disguised ISPs and things like that, that makes it harder for FBI to actually locate it. Even if they do, I can imagine they are sending emails from several public locations making it harder to narrow it down. I'm sure they read your email(s) just haven't had time to reply. Must had a budget cut back to hire a pretty office assistant to reply to all emails. The FBI DOES have a cyber investigation group, I can imagine they have their plates full. Your of the thought that this is happening inside the US borders. Im guessing a large percentage of this type of activity is happening outside the US borders, where our laws and jurisdiction is useless. They have internet cafes in Nigeria and Jamica where they do nothing but fish for unknowing rich westerners to swindle from. Quote
Super User Root beer Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 Hey, I've been to Jamaica they tried ripped me off in person. Actually one guy did it in succession. :-? Quote
Super User KYntucky Warmouth Posted October 6, 2009 Super User Posted October 6, 2009 The problem I see is that ebay doesn't handle it's own finances, at least I don't think they do, that's why they created paypal. I also don't think they allow outside deals like that to be made. Quote
Adi Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 [i'm sure they read your email(s) just haven't had time to reply.] I'm not holding my breath, it's been at least ten years since these scams started popping up. Actually we read every email that you send. If you have not been a "victim" the is not much we can do. We get 8-10,000 email a day. We are here 24/7 and we read every email. If you send us the scam and tell us you are aware of the scam there is nothing much for us to do. If you have been a victim of one of these scams we usually send you a referral email or call you and refer you to www.ic3.gov. This site is a joint effort by the FBI and SS set up to stop these scams. You do have to understand that the FBI does NOT have jurisdiction in other countries. We relay on other countries police to help us apprehend individuals. If you guys have any questions please feel free to message me. (I'm on the night shift) Quote
Stasher1 Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 The problem I see is that ebay doesn't handle it's own finances, at least I don't think they do, that's why they created paypal. I also don't think they allow outside deals like that to be made. IIRC, Ebay didn't creat Paypal, they "aquired" them several years ago. There were numerous security problems during the change of ownership and many, many folks got ripped off. Quote
SimonSays Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 The whole point of craigslist is to be able to see the thing you're buying and take it home on the spot. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 [i'm sure they read your email(s) just haven't had time to reply.] I'm not holding my breath, it's been at least ten years since these scams started popping up. Actually we read every email that you send. If you have not been a "victim" the is not much we can do. We get 8-10,000 email a day. We are here 24/7 and we read every email. If you send us the scam and tell us you are aware of the scam there is nothing much for us to do. If you have been a victim of one of these scams we usually send you a referral email or call you and refer you to www.ic3.gov. This site is a joint effort by the FBI and SS set up to stop these scams. You do have to understand that the FBI does NOT have jurisdiction in other countries. We relay on other countries police to help us apprehend individuals. If you guys have any questions please feel free to message me. (I'm on the night shift) Maybe I'm being naive, but it seems like these schemes would be easy targets for sting operations. I don't think these guys are the sharpest knives in the drawer! I guess their victims aren't either. It's pretty hard to win a lottery in the UK without buying a ticket. : Quote
tyrius. Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Maybe I'm being naive, but it seems like these schemes would be easy targets for sting operations. I don't think these guys are the sharpest knives in the drawer! I guess their victims aren't either. It's pretty hard to win a lottery in the UK without buying a ticket. The problem with a sting operation is that these people never even set foot on US soil. They send email messages or post on message boards and wait for some sucker to send them money. They don't ever have to meet that person face to face and they never have to leave their home, which is typically in a different country that doesn't have the resources to monitor this type of crime. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted October 14, 2009 Super User Posted October 14, 2009 For those wondering, Ebay does not call you for your financial information. I have sold motorcycles and cars on Ebay, the transactions went smoothly. Ebay does not hold anything in a trust account, and I was paid through paypal. This woman wanting redline's address and phone number is trying to steal his identity. Once "Ebay" calls and gets the financials she has everything she needs to steal his identity. The 3500 bucks would be nothing compared to the financial havoc she could make. Quote
done Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 For those wondering, Ebay does not call you for your financial information. I have sold motorcycles and cars on Ebay, the transactions went smoothly. Ebay does not hold anything in a trust account, and I was paid through paypal. This woman wanting redline's address and phone number is trying to steal his identity. Once "Ebay" calls and gets the financials she has everything she needs to steal his identity. The 3500 bucks would be nothing compared to the financial havoc she could make. yeah, I LOVE phone phishing scams. Got a few of those here. The dude behind us tries it from time to time. He is to dumb to cover his number on caller ID. One thing to try, I have heard of folks doing this, could be fun, when they call tell them you do not really trust the phone for this type of transaction. Ask them instead to MAIL via US Postal service, the forms for you to fill out. If they are dumb enough to do that, hand the forms and all your info to your local postmaster. From what I have read, it ramps it up to mail fraud and the Postal service takes that very seriously. Quote
Tokyo Tony Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Maybe I'm being naive, but it seems like these schemes would be easy targets for sting operations. I don't think these guys are the sharpest knives in the drawer! I guess their victims aren't either. It's pretty hard to win a lottery in the UK without buying a ticket. The problem with a sting operation is that these people never even set foot on US soil. They send email messages or post on message boards and wait for some sucker to send them money. They don't ever have to meet that person face to face and they never have to leave their home, which is typically in a different country that doesn't have the resources to monitor this type of crime. "Are you one of the many people who aren't making as much as they'd like to? Are you tired of your long commute and spending money to get to work? Wouldn't you love to make a CEO's salary without leaving the comfort of your own home? Well now you can with our new work-from-home system!"... Quote
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