I.rar Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 what do you do? and if you dont mind me asking , whats your salary like? im thinking about going back and getting my associates since it seems the easiest but im curious as to what everyone is doing with theirs. Quote
JigMe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I have a B.S. in finance/business, and working on my MBA. The pay is ok, but stress level is high because I have to prepare all the departmental reports, budget, etc. Most peoples I know who is in finance/business field usually work 50 hours a week, or more. So say cyz to most of your fishing time. Â Quote
Super User cart7t Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 The few I know with an Associates in Business work very long hours running fast food places, small retail stores or cell phone stores. Â If you equate the number hours to an hourly rate I'd say the degree doesn't pay. Â BTW, this recession has been hard on those in managing. Â Many cuts with the bulk of the work dumped on those that are left. Â Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 I have a B.S. in finance/business, and working on my MBA. The pay is ok, but stress level is high because I have to prepare all the departmental reports, budget, etc. Most peoples I know who is in finance/business field usually work 50 hours a week, or more. So say cyz to most of your fishing time. If that's the type of grammar you use when preparing your reports, don't plan on getting ahead very soon. Â : Quote
JigMe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Sorry. Professor, Mike. I guess you don't know much about financial reports. It is all NUMBERSbut I do apologize for not using proper grammar. Quote
I.rar Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 The few I know with an Associates in Business work very long hours running fast food places, small retail stores or cell phone stores. If you equate the number hours to an hourly rate I'd say the degree doesn't pay. BTW, this recession has been hard on those in managing. Many cuts with the bulk of the work dumped on those that are left. ouch. i guess it is better than nothing. im still open to what im going for as i have a year if i want to get the NC resident discount thing. my fiances has a BA in accounting but ive seen the work she has done in school and it way over my head. Quote
JigMe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Well, you can consider retail management if you are interested in business. The primary responsibilities are hiring and train staffs, manage inventories, and customer service. Average salary should be at 55,000 dollars/yr. Quote
NewAngler Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Business degree I do not have, but am working in a job where one would normally be needed. I do sales/ marketing for a painting, cleanin, carpet cleaning company that has over 100 employees and works for over 45 properties in and around the DC and Baltimore metro areas. The pay is good, but the stress is high. Right now its budget season for me so I'm running profit and loss statements, preparing proposals and presenting proposals on a regional level. Its tough, but I love it. I have 3 kids, a house and 2 cars and live paycheck to paycheck.. But I have everything. My suggestion to you is find an entry level job and NETWORK. Its not always what you know, its who know. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 I don't have a business degree but here is what I know. You have NO business running someone elses business when you should be running your own. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 I don't have a business degree but here is what I know. You have NO business running someone elses business when you should be running your own. Quite true, however the stress level is much higher and most people are not cut out for it. Â I can give many reasons to work for some one rather than yourself. I took a path other than my educational background, owned my own business successfully over 30 years. I'm totally out of the loop as to what a good salary is today. Quote
Super User Sam Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 Depends on what you do with the degree. Some folks can obtain a degree but be totally unacceptable. Others do not have a degree and do great. However, to reply to your query....consulting and in six figures. Remember, a college degree gets you through the hiring "filter" so you can have an opportunity to advance and do well financially. GET THAT DEGREE!!!! Â Â Â Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted September 27, 2009 Super User Posted September 27, 2009 Lots of advice given on this forum, but Sam just hit it. BINGO! Quote
Slip Gun Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Recently graduated with accounting minor in eco. I am studying for the LSAT to continue on to law school so I have the 150 credit hours to sit for CPA certification. AKA my plan is to be in school forever. Accounting normally has a huge amount of jobs available but this economy is even knocking into the field no one wants to throw a stick at  If you truly wish to do business management go for it but from my experience *sorry to those I may offend with this* I have found everyone I have met with that major is somewhere encompassing both unmotivated and retarded. Theory of management is not a study in my opinion it's a skill you develop. Even my teachers made fun of the business management students. I would also avoid finance personally since that field is flooded due to all the layoffs from the bank failures. It will probably take a quite a while for this field to recover. Four year degrees are a dime a dozen - I would highly recommend you don't stop at two years. About the only "good" position I've been offered has been in retail management and that's with a 3.4 GPA and four year degree with a few years of management experience. *Trying to avoid getting into retail again sorta a dead end area come the time I have a CPA* Quote
I.rar Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 thanks for the replies everyone. i guess i havnt given it as much thought as i should have. like i said earlier , i do still have plenty of time before i decide what im going to major in and if anything i could go undecided for a bit until i get it all figured out. Quote
JigMe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Recently graduated with accounting minor in eco. I am studying for the LSAT to continue on to law school so I have the 150 credit hours to sit for CPA certification. AKA my plan is to be in school forever. Accounting normally has a huge amount of jobs available but this economy is even knocking into the field no one wants to throw a stick at If you truly wish to do business management go for it but from my experience *sorry to those I may offend with this* I have found everyone I have met with that major is somewhere encompassing both unmotivated and retarded. Theory of management is not a study in my opinion it's a skill you develop. Even my teachers made fun of the business management students. I would also avoid finance personally since that field is flooded due to all the layoffs from the bank failures. It will probably take a quite a while for this field to recover. Four year degrees are a dime a dozen - I would highly recommend you don't stop at two years. About the only "good" position I've been offered has been in retail management and that's with a 3.4 GPA and four year degree with a few years of management experience. *Trying to avoid getting into retail again sorta a dead end area come the time I have a CPA* CPA and retail management are two different fields. CPA is accounting, and retail management focus on the business aspect. I have to disagree that retail management is a dead end area. My dad manages retail stores his whole life, and made six figures but he retired few years ago. Accounting is a stressful job, and you need to be in the director level to make 100G plus. More stress and collect the same paycheck. Which one would you choice? Â Â Quote
Slip Gun Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 Recently graduated with accounting minor in eco. I am studying for the LSAT to continue on to law school so I have the 150 credit hours to sit for CPA certification. AKA my plan is to be in school forever. Accounting normally has a huge amount of jobs available but this economy is even knocking into the field no one wants to throw a stick at If you truly wish to do business management go for it but from my experience *sorry to those I may offend with this* I have found everyone I have met with that major is somewhere encompassing both unmotivated and retarded. Theory of management is not a study in my opinion it's a skill you develop. Even my teachers made fun of the business management students. I would also avoid finance personally since that field is flooded due to all the layoffs from the bank failures. It will probably take a quite a while for this field to recover. Four year degrees are a dime a dozen - I would highly recommend you don't stop at two years. About the only "good" position I've been offered has been in retail management and that's with a 3.4 GPA and four year degree with a few years of management experience. *Trying to avoid getting into retail again sorta a dead end area come the time I have a CPA* CPA and retail management are two different fields. CPA is accounting, and retail management focus on the business aspect. I have to disagree that retail management is a dead end area. My dad manages retail stores his whole life, and made six figures but he retired few years ago. Accounting is a stressful job, and you need to be in the director level to make 100G plus. More stress and collect the same paycheck. Which one would you choice? Yes it is a dead end because as you said they are two different fields. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand that that was exactly my point. Oh and ill choose accounting thanks : Quote
JigMe Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 okie...point well taken. So been different that made retail management a dead end? Quote
Slip Gun Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 okie...point well taken. So been different that made retail management a dead end? :-/English please? - I would also like to note I know many of you have done wonderful things with a business mgmt degree. I'm just saying I think that specializing still allows you to be a fantastic manager because you still get a general overview of every area. You just avoid the theory classes which from my experience anyone who works with people figures out quickly anyways. Quote
GLADES Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 I worked in the plastic's industry. My degree helped me land several management jobs over the years. At times, I was working 10-12 hour days, and getting phone calls at night. The pay was good, but those jobs have dried up and went to china and mexico. The propects are not as bright for college grads with the economy tanked. I have started a service company. It is growing slowly, and I am hopefuthat the economy will recover in 3.5 more years. Quote
fish-fighting-illini Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009  Forget the associates and go for a BA. An associates won't hurt you but it also won't help you much.  Life & often your salary is about effort; with an attitude like  " it seems like the easiest" your pay will be proportionate.  I don't mean to be harsh, just telling it like it is. FFI Quote
I.rar Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 Forget the associates and go for a BA. An associates won't hurt you but it also won't help you much. Life & often your salary is about effort; with an attitude like " it seems like the easiest" your pay will be proportionate. I don't mean to be harsh, just telling it like it is. FFI i appreciate it. i didnt mean to make it seem like im just going for what easiest , but im really not much of a desk-job person. i like working with my hands and/or being outdoors and everything ive looked at that does interest me , it seems it doesnt pay as well as the guy behind the desk. Quote
Super User Root beer Posted September 28, 2009 Super User Posted September 28, 2009 IMO, if you should get an associate, get accounting and work as a bookkeeper. If you want stick with management working in retail will be crappy, but if you rise to store manager you can make six-figures. I know a store manager with no degree making six-figures. I know of one with an associate I believe, and she makes 80k. There a store manager for Ingles grocery making six-figures a year and he vacation in Hawaii and drives a 2006 mustang which he bought brand new. Store manager is both a desk job and a working with your hands job. A good store manager does both, a crappy one sits behind desk and do not pay attention to their employees or what going on out on the sales floor. Â Believe me I know...I could write a book on crappy management from my time in retail. I worked for K-mart when I was in high school. It paid for my books, but I'm not going back into retail. Everytime I had to deal with a stupid customer, my IQ dropped. Â : Who ever said "the customer is always right" is full of #$%#! Quote
Olebiker Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 My dad manages retail stores his whole life, and made six figures but he retired few years ago. Accounting is a stressful job, and you need to be in the director level to make 100G plus. More stress and collect the same paycheck. Which one would you choice? I spent 20 years in retail management and would not wish that job on anyone, especially a man with a family. In my last job I got transferred from Louisville to Denver to Knoxville and, finally to Tallahassee. All of this was within five years. It darned near cost me my family. If you plan on trying retail, don't go to work for someone else. The money isn't worth it for the number of hours you have to put in. You can plan on working six days a week and, in the fourth quarter, seven days. Retail is a dead end since no one in any other business respects your experience in retail. Quote
slider head Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 When I got out of HS I went to college. I hated it. School interfered with women....fishing and partying. After 1 semester I was told to go home. Enrolled at Community College. I did real well and made good grades but hated this even more and quit. Got lucky and was hired on by a GREAT company. I worked real hard and learned real fast. I was always getting bumped up. Then after 6 years, no more bumps. It was explained to me I had gone as far as I was ever going to go until I got my degree. This made me real mad. Thought of quitting. A couple cooling down days I said you know what OK. I can do this. After all they agreed to pay for it. I had to sacrafice a couple years and really really hunker down. Getting my degree was the BEST thing I ever did! All in all I have been here 17 years and for the most part its been great. I know now I would not be where I am today without sucking it up and making the sacrafice. Hard work a dedication just does NOT get it done now in business. GET THE DEGREE! 8-) P.S. My wife figured out this very same scenario a couple years ago......and she is now on the verge of getting hers! Quote
FishingBuds Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Staying dept free is the key to having money Quote
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