USA TODAY Coaches Poll

[Catt]

Wasn't it #1 ranked Oklahoma who scored 60+ points in 5 straight games all against Big12 opponents but could only muster 14 against Florida's defense?

Wasn't The Ohio State Buckeye touted as the greatest offensive teams of our generation only to get slammed back to back by the SEC.?

Wasn't the '03 Sooners praised by ESPN as the greatest team in college football history and yet lost to the lowly SEC?

BCS Bowl Records

SEC: 12-5

Big 12: 7-9

Y'all can't argue with back to back to back national championships period

[Matt Fly]

2003 Sooners LOL, Try 2005 Trojans, Greatest ever!!!lol

Guess you forgot how bad espn threw USC down everyones throat in 2005 with the greatest college football team EVER!!!! Linart, Bush, White.

Remember, 2003 USC and LSU shared the National Title that year? USC voted AP.

Remember, 2004, USC BCS champs

Remberer, 2005 USC vs Texas USC going to win 3 straight.

Wait a minute, Texas didn't lose. Espn looked stupid with all that greatest ever stuff didn't they.

8-)

Hookem

[Chris at Tech]

Ga Tech is the team I will love to watch out of the ACC though. I don't think they will ever win a national title with Paul Johnson there, but they will always be at the top of the conference. He is one of the best coaches in the country. I think another year wiser in their system and they will quite possibly take the ACC.

Post of the year!  Except the part about not winning a national championship

I cannot freakin' wait to see the GT offense this year.  If we did as well as we did last year while most of the guys still didn't understand the offense, this year could be downright ugly...for GT's opponents

[Dan:]

Ga Tech is the team I will love to watch out of the ACC though. I don't think they will ever win a national title with Paul Johnson there, but they will always be at the top of the conference. He is one of the best coaches in the country. I think another year wiser in their system and they will quite possibly take the ACC.

Post of the year! Except the part about not winning a national championship

I cannot freakin' wait to see the GT offense this year. If we did as well as we did last year while most of the guys still didn't understand the offense, this year could be downright ugly...for GT's opponents

being the son of a USNA graduate, I watched a lot of Paul Johnson in the last few years. He really is a great coach but I'm just not sure an option offense is capable of winning national championships anymore.

[Catt]

December 31, 2008 Chick-fil-A Bowl LSU 38 GT 3  

[1inStripes]

Post of the year! Except the part about not winning a national championship

I cannot freakin' wait to see the GT offense this year. If we did as well as we did last year while most of the guys still didn't understand the offense, this year could be downright ugly...for GT's opponents

being the son of a USNA graduate, I watched a lot of Paul Johnson in the last few years. He really is a great coach but I'm just not sure an option offense is capable of winning national championships anymore.

You will not see an option offense win the national title anymore without some other facet of their game being superior also offensively.  The reason I said they won't win a national title Chris at Tech is because defending the option requires discpline and technique.  The biggest part of discipline is reading your keys and staying where you are supposed to be.  The option is great for the regular season because with one week-2 max to prepare for it, its still tough to defend.  When you give these top notch D coordinators at BCS schools a month plus to drill it into the skulls of their defenders, its gonna get snuffed out most of the time.  GT will have to build a heckuva D to win a national title with that offense.  I am a big Paul Johnson fan though.

[Dan:]

Post of the year! Except the part about not winning a national championship

I cannot freakin' wait to see the GT offense this year. If we did as well as we did last year while most of the guys still didn't understand the offense, this year could be downright ugly...for GT's opponents

being the son of a USNA graduate, I watched a lot of Paul Johnson in the last few years. He really is a great coach but I'm just not sure an option offense is capable of winning national championships anymore.

You will not see an option offense win the national title anymore without some other facet of their game being superior also offensively. The reason I said they won't win a national title Chris at Tech is because defending the option requires discpline and technique. The biggest part of discipline is reading your keys and staying where you are supposed to be. The option is great for the regular season because with one week-2 max to prepare for it, its still tough to defend. When you give these top notch D coordinators at BCS schools a month plus to drill it into the skulls of their defenders, its gonna get snuffed out most of the time. GT will have to build a heckuva D to win a national title with that offense. I am a big Paul Johnson fan though.

bingo. Couldn't have said it better. Top tier programs with top tier players and coaching should be able to defend the option easily.

[Matt Fly]

I have seen enough option football to know you can't defend the option when its exicuted and read correctly.

   You may slow it down some, but thats about it.      Plenty of NCCA titles won based on some form of the option.  

   What do you call the Wildcat formation?    Wasn't it Vince Young and the Longhorns who used an option style offense to win the 2005 National title?

So it don't look like the wishbone.  It works none the less.  

  Pat White seemed to run that style of offense with authority as well.

[Dan:]

As long as everyone sticks to their assignments it's not that hard to defend. The problems come when you have a ridiculous athlete thrown in there like Vince Young or Pat White. That is why the option is used more at high school levels and less in college and even less in the Pros (like not at all). Once the skill and knowledge levels are that high, the option is not as successful.

[Catt]

Georgia Tech's problem was they tried to live by triple-option which LSU's defense shut down completely; with the speed of defenses today a team can not become one dimensional.

The Longhorns & Vince Young had other equally effective weapons

[Matt Fly]

LOL   Georgia Tech,    What bowl?    Chick filet Tidy Bowl    ;D ;D ;D

Plenty of teams run the wildcat which is an option based scheme that has been very successfull in todays football.

18 titles from the Big XII boys, most of them from the option.    

Air Force puts up stats every year running the option, and they don't recruit for Championships, military priorities first.

Pat Whites career will tell the option is alive and well where needed.

   

[1inStripes]

Excuse me, let me rephrase things in the proper terms of TRIPLE OPTION.  Plus, lets not be completely hailing VYs option national title winning team against a weak USC defense.

[Matt Fly]

Excuse me, let me rephrase things in the proper terms of TRIPLE OPTION. Plus, lets not be completely hailing VYs option national title winning team against a weak USC defense.

Just like Michigans defense the year before. no matter, How many titles does your team have?

Stick your neck out there. Whos your team? you a fence rider or do you have a dog in our hunt???? Speak up, so you can reap what you sew this year.

[1inStripes]

I aint scared...  

The Real UT

[Chris at Tech]

As long as everyone sticks to their assignments it's not that hard to defend.

So, uh, couldn't the same thing be said about ANY offense?  I guess that's why so many games end in 0-0 ties -- because defenses are always in position, and there are never any missed tackles or mismatches to exploit.

And all of you can continue to expect that last year's offense and this year's offense will be exactly the same thing.  As a matter of fact, count on that.  PLEASE.  Then we'll see what happens.

Catt -- LSU was clearly the better team that day last year.  GT picked a heck of a time to lay a complete egg.  But do I think LSU was really 35 points better of a team?  No.  Many other teams last year said the exact same thing about stopping a one-dimensional team.  Most of them, including the preseason Number 1 from the mighty SEC, were left with a L on their schedule.  And as I recall, GT did finish with a winning record against the SEC last year.

Allow me to bow down to the superiority of the mighty Big XII and SEC.  I'm surprised you let anyone else even discuss football here.  Please continue about your business, and just pencil in the entire ACC as winless in out of conference games.  As a matter of fact, didn't a mighty SEC team get embarassed by a Mountain West (read: NON-BCS) team last year?  Just sayin'.

Am I realistically expecting a national championship?  No.  Is it outside the realm of possibilities?  No.  But I'm sure as heck gonna enjoy the ride.

[daviscw]

Great post! With VTech and UNC in the picture the ACC is finally getting some deserved respect. I am a Wake Forest fan, and I expect for them to put out a decent showing even though they somehow fell of the charts...?

Bottom line, the polls are stupid and useless and only give SEC fans even bigger heads. So what, you won a popularity contest even though there are 5 teams that a better than you. Doesn't it make sense that colleges located in the south should get the better players and more votes since most of the nations population is situated in the south? Hmmm.... I wonder why all these Texans and Cajuns and Floridians don't boast about their hockey teams.....??

Go Apps and Deacs!

[Catt]

How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

LSU's problem last year was Pick6 Lee

Is the SEC invincible? Absolutely not!

[daviscw]

How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

LSU's problem last year was Pick6 Lee

Is the SEC invincible? Absolutely not!

My school won 3 in a row.

[Catt]

How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

LSU's problem last year was Pick6 Lee

Is the SEC invincible? Absolutely not!

My school won 3 in a row.

So that's your way to explain away the SEC dominance?

[daviscw]

How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

LSU's problem last year was Pick6 Lee

Is the SEC invincible? Absolutely not!

My school won 3 in a row.

So that's your way to explain away the SEC dominance?

Uh no. The point is, what is so great about a whole conference winning 3 straight when my SCHOOL did it by itself?

Nothing.

[Catt]

So you gonna compare Appalachian State to the SEC?

I think y'all tried that in 08

[daviscw]

Where did I say ASU could beat an SEC team?

I'll help you... I didn't.

[Catt]

Where did I say ASU could beat an SEC team?

I'll help you... I didn't.

Then what's your point when commenting My school won 3 in a row. When I asked How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

The comments were made how every thing is basically handed to the SEC or how an ex-SEC commissioner who started the BCS made it favor the SEC and that is the reasons for their dominance.

No the dominance is because y'all are flat getting out played

[Root beer]

Where did I say ASU could beat an SEC team?

I'll help you... I didn't.

Don't argue with a person from the bayou.  ;D

I'm an SEC fan and I see your argument is to brag on your school winning 3 titles in a row not the conference as a whole, (Even if you want argue on appy state conference, the conference itself won 3 in a row.)

Catt, I might be illiterate, but somewhere above I must have missed Davis statement about Appy state will beat any team the SEC send to Boone. Unfortunately he didn't claim that. Catt his point is, his school won 3 in a row in their respective league and conference. he believes that a greater bragging right. LSU never won 3 national title in a row, so thus, you cannot counter-argue that. Only the SEC as a whole won 3 in a row. Capisce?   ;D

P.S. Catt, Alabama domination in 60s and 70s is far more greater achievement than LSU ever had in their history of football.

[daviscw]

Where did I say ASU could beat an SEC team?

I'll help you... I didn't.

Then what's your point when commenting My school won 3 in a row. When I asked How do y'all explain away Back to Back to Back National titles?

The comments were made how every thing is basically handed to the SEC or how an ex-SEC commissioner who started the BCS made it favor the SEC and that is the reasons for their dominance.

No the dominance is because y'all are flat getting out played

MY back to back to back National Titles were won through a football playoff system.

How were your CONFERENCE'S National Titles won? Through preseason rankings and coaches polls that do not determine an actual best team.