Super User 5bass Posted August 14, 2009 Super User Posted August 14, 2009 Let's hear it. Good move, bad move? What do you think? Quote
seyone Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I'm all for second chances, just wish he got his second chance with a different city. Quote
Koop Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I think this is absurd. I am disgusted how much leeway people with the money are given. Just like the football player who hit a 50 some odd year old with his car while drunk... served 24 days? in jail and was fined... any normal person would be serving a prison term. Vick spent time on house arrest now he's being given a "second" chance... I don't agree with it, what he did was inhuman, he should be doing blue collar labor for the rest of his life. He should lose the luxuries he was privileged enough to enjoy. Quote
Ldavis Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I am a Eagles fan and only time will tell if it was a good decision or not. I personally think they will use him more as a receiver/scat back type player. Quote
Jake. Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Just like the football player who hit a 50 some odd year old with his car while drunk... served 24 days? in jail and was fined... The guy darted out into a six lane highway. Stallworth probably would not have been able to avoid him even if he was sober. He did make a very bad decesion to drive that morning, and he deserved punishment, but there was more to the story. Quote
preach4bass Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I think this is absurd. I am disgusted how much leeway people with the money are given. Just like the football player who hit a 50 some odd year old with his car while drunk... served 24 days? in jail and was fined... any normal person would be serving a prison term. Vick spent time on house arrest now he's being given a "second" chance... I don't agree with it, what he did was inhuman, he should be doing blue collar labor for the rest of his life. He should lose the luxuries he was privileged enough to enjoy. I don't understand how anyone could compare the loss of a human life to a bunch of dogs fighting. He paid his debt to society, now he's going back to work. His job just happens to be very public and high paying. I think with Tony Dungy being his mentor, Vick will be a good example to young people that you can change your thuggish ways and lead a good, more productive life (while still tearing it up on the football field). Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted August 15, 2009 Super User Posted August 15, 2009 I think this is absurd. I am disgusted how much leeway people with the money are given. Just like the football player who hit a 50 some odd year old with his car while drunk... served 24 days? in jail and was fined... any normal person would be serving a prison term. Vick spent time on house arrest now he's being given a "second" chance... I don't agree with it, what he did was inhuman, he should be doing blue collar labor for the rest of his life. He should lose the luxuries he was privileged enough to enjoy. I don't understand how anyone could compare the loss of a human life to a bunch of dogs fighting. He paid his debt to society, now he's going back to work. His job just happens to be very public and high paying. I think with Tony Dungy being his mentor, Vick will be a good example to young people that you can change your thuggish ways and lead a good, more productive life (while still tearing it up on the football field). i dunno..............ive buried 2 of the best dogs i could ever imagine and it about killed me to do it. dogs may not be human but they feel pain just like you and i. to me vick might not belong in jail but after that i hope karma takes a huge bite out of his life. > Quote
detroit1 Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Thuggish? I would like to think inhumane would be a better word. Even thugs don't kill their dogs.... Quote
Koop Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I think this is absurd. I am disgusted how much leeway people with the money are given. Just like the football player who hit a 50 some odd year old with his car while drunk... served 24 days? in jail and was fined... any normal person would be serving a prison term. Vick spent time on house arrest now he's being given a "second" chance... I don't agree with it, what he did was inhuman, he should be doing blue collar labor for the rest of his life. He should lose the luxuries he was privileged enough to enjoy. I don't understand how anyone could compare the loss of a human life to a bunch of dogs fighting. He paid his debt to society, now he's going back to work. His job just happens to be very public and high paying. I think with Tony Dungy being his mentor, Vick will be a good example to young people that you can change your thuggish ways and lead a good, more productive life (while still tearing it up on the football field). Apparently we do not view dogs in the same way. It is my opinion that a person who intentionally murders a dog (ie throws poison in someones back yard to kill the dog) should be prosecuted the same way someone who killed a human is. I have a few dogs, my wife shows them and does agility testing etc, I do hunt trials with them. They are like children to us, not just some pet. The things Vick did were cruel and uncalled for. I think he should have been in a federal prison for many years, he does not deserve the opportunity he is being given. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted August 15, 2009 Author Super User Posted August 15, 2009 I'm still on the fence about it. I know for a fact that I could never bring myself to treat an animal like that and I'm not too fond of people that do. I guess if I had to come out with a definitive opinion right now....I'd say he does deserve another chance to prove himself but I feel like it's a little too soon. The longer he is punished either in jail or sitting at home not playing football, the more he would understand just how serious an offense he was involved in and the extended time away would probably make him appreciate things more than he does. Dogs, fame, football, etc.... But it is what it is.....whats done is done. Hopefully he'll take full advantage of this opportunity and do the right thing, on and off the field. Quote
drmnbig Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 He has been sentenced and served his time. Not to mention he has lost pretty much everything he has ever accumulated. He has paid his debt to society and is trying to do above and beyond his sentence by speaking out for organizations about how bad the things he did were. I'm sure he could sell his story to someone to write a book about and live pretty comfortable the rest of his life but he isn't. He's trying to be proactive and live life as good as he can. I can't imagine the humiliation of having to live the rest of his life being heckled in the public eye. I hope he does good and has truly changed his ways. I can't wait to see him on the field again either. Quote
Koop Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Koopa= Future PETA President. ;D lol not QUITE that extreme I dont care if the president swats a fly . Dogs are just a sore spot for me. But like 5BL said, it is what it is... wasn't my decision to make. Quote
FishingBuds Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 This is another reason I do not give sports much respect. They'll look the other way for money, and hope we go along. It is what it is and is accepted. There is bad people all around us and our kids watch our reaction and acceptance to these people, Our kids will model themselves after our choices, we are doing a great job as you can see : each generation is being taught to be more tolerant then the next. There is no fear for commiting a crime-NONE! No one is perfect, or will be but, there is a responsibility to at least get rid of CRUD Its a lossing fight, and its too late now. There should have been concerned Adults in the NFL not acctepting Vick back They have got it good, what a better way to start teaching our kids than through entertainment. Quote
preach4bass Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I have a three year old chocolate lab that I love playing and working with. My wife is also 6 months pregnant with our first child. Now, I've never met my daughter, but I already love her a lot more than the dog I've known for three years. Sorry guys, but comparing a dog's life to the life of a human just isn't the same to me. Flies are a different story though. Obama should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. They have feelings too! ;D Quote
Super User Matt Fly Posted August 17, 2009 Super User Posted August 17, 2009 First off, If Vick gets out of line in Philly, the fans know how to treat their own, with batteries and bottles. lol Nice fit!!! Just ask Santa. ;D ;D ;D Second, am I hearing the commish may re-instate him sooner. I don't like that either. Quote
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