There no point in trying anymore.

[Root beer]

My final exam is approaching for Economic II, and I give up. > I Currently have an A average in the class, but I have yet to make a 100 on a single test. The last test which cover: Financial Market, Taxes, Labor Market, and Union market. I made a 95 on it. The other previous tests I made 88 and 86 then when you factor in couple 100s and 90s on quizzes I have an A average.

There no point in trying get a 100 on a single test, it will never happen. :-/ Economic professors everywhere, you win!

[Uncle Leo]

An A is an A. Still sounds like you did well. Do not give in to them.

[Dan:]

as long as you get an A on your test then you will get an A average, meaning it won't have an affect on your GPA whether you get a 95 or a 100...

[NewAngler]

try taking an econ class with a prfessor with a heavy indian accent..

[Root beer]

try taking an econ class with a prfessor with a heavy indian accent..

My greatest fear LOL. I'm hearing impair, so I usually find a different professor. Lot of time I have no problem with foreign person or woman teaching, but if their voice is weird to me, I have to change professor or make them give me their notes after class. It sucks when you missed information and do not even bother to ask question because you didn't know the information exist. This is one of reason why I went to community college to take my general education, because at 4 year colleges general education classes are usually large. And I didn't want be in a large classroom with 300 people and a professor using a microphone. My average classroom size at my school is around 25. So it more easier to understand. I'm transferring ETSU after this year, but since I'll be back in business classes the classroom be same size as it is now. I always thought it be fun to major in International Business, but with my hearing I cannot minor in a foreign language, it hard enough for me to understand English let along learn a new foreign language. I've been to Mexico, those people can speak fast. :-? I took latin in high school, it was just hard to hear it sometimes because latin pronunciation is different from English. I was able read and translate the words, but I couldn't hear then translate it.

Dan, it fun to make a 100.   But sadly I cannot pull it off in Economic. Maybe I can in Accounting classes and other business classes where the test will not be so broad and gray.

[SirSnookalot]

You never see the class rank of a doctors diploma.

[daviscw]

I've found better things to do in college other than overachieving.

[Shad_Master]

Do you know what they call people who graduate from medical school with a "C" average?

Doctor!  Suck it up and get your degree!

[Zel]

I think you're right Root beer My advanced Economics prof made our lives miserable for 2 semesters.  We referred to him as "Professor Kingsfield" (anybody remember the show?)

[uicdent11]

"A's are overrated."

- This statement's coming from a straight "B" student.

[gator1968]

If he gives you a 100 you would not try as hard. By giving you a 95 its still an "A". And you keep trying. See my point.

[bocabasser]

I think you're right Root beer My advanced Economics prof made our lives miserable for 2 semesters. We referred to him as "Professor Kingsfield" (anybody remember the show?)

the paper chase?

[drmnbig]

I know what it's like to want to give up.  I've got a 3.89GPA right now with only 18 credits left.  I've never gotten less than a very high "B" and It looks like I'm gonna get a solid "C" in philosophy this semester unless the exam I took today is better than I'm expecting it to be.  

BTW, I've got to rant.  Philosophy is the most worthless, POS class I've taken to date.  What the crap?!  It's like they try to force you to think the way they want.  I know most of it is that I'm already set in my ways but they should use a little common sense instead of the freakin' "what if's"!!!!  

[Root beer]

I know what it's like to want to give up. I've got a 3.89GPA right now with only 18 credits left. I've never gotten less than a very high "B" and It looks like I'm gonna get a solid "C" in philosophy this semester unless the exam I took today is better than I'm expecting it to be.

BTW, I've got to rant. Philosophy is the most worthless, POS class I've taken to date. What the crap?! It's like they try to force you to think the way they want. I know most of it is that I'm already set in my ways but they should use a little common sense instead of the freakin' "what if's"!!!!

Tell your professor to ponder on this: A person with a technical education working in a factory will make more money then them, because they have a higher MRP, because they are more productive than philosopher.

That will tick him off.

[burleytog]

It's like they try to force you to think the way they want.  

You're just figuring that out?  Isn't that the entire point of education?

[daviscw]

You don't go to college to learn a trade or occupation. You go to college to learn "how to learn", and to problem solve. I learn more working summers in construction than I have in the 6 years of construction classes I have taken already.

Quit whining dudes! Get your piece of paper and be happy. In rare circumstances employers will actually look at your grades. Some people don't need college educations, but most do. The only thing it can hurt is your wallet.

I learned my freshman year I'd rather have fun and do average than study my butt off, be a recluse, and make just a little bit better. I still have above a 3.0. That's all I'm worried about.

[Tin]

I've found better things to do in college other than overachieving.

x2

But this year they are now going to charge me another $115 for a parking sticker for the boat. >

As long as I keep above a 3.5 and I have extra money being given to me I don't care. 84.49 and up is fine for me

[Root beer]

You don't go to college to learn a trade or occupation. You go to college to learn "how to learn", and to problem solve. I learn more working summers in construction than I have in the 6 years of construction classes I have taken already.

Some classes are plain useless, some are invaluable. For instance, is classes on music, art, philosophy, biology, or literature going to be useful for ME (accountancy major) in future? Nope. They are just on the curriculum to gain more money. (notice how lot of colleges charges by hours of classes...)

Classes for me in accounting and math will give me skills necessary for jobs in CPA field.(which is what I want to be, a CPA in the consultant service) Classes in Economic will provide me a broad knowledge on how the market as a whole will work. Management classes will teach me infrastructure of a business. Marketing is fun, but it too freaking easy. (it easy to learn it, but it hard to actually sell something, which I will admit) Thus, I'm in college because I need skills necessary to become a CPA, which is what they are providing me along with some useless crap to get more money out of me and professor gets a larger paycheck because my scholarship paid for his class. With this skill and education, employers can spend less time and money on training me because I already have the skills provided. Which is bottom line.

While I agree college doesn't equate to guarantee job, some degree are extremely useful and they are design to train people for the jobs. Like accounting degree, medical school, law school, et cetera.

Also, while a degree doesn't necessary mean anything other than fact you are dedicated towards something, it just simply saves employer a lot of time and money by weeding out applicant. They assume because of a paper they are already more qualified. But me? I'm being train and taught how to do a specific job. My accounting professor has a CPA license, my economic professor has a CFP license. I'm being taught by people like them to do a desired job. Is it necessarily to have a college degree? Absolutely not. But I will never see a person with no degree working as a CPA, because they don't have training required to be one. While it true that number of college degrees has gone up, the labor market already loaded with bachelor degrees making it a very competitive market. It going take even more education to beat them out.

I'm simply in school to learn a desired occupation. Not to show off some fancy paper and prove world I'm smarter than them. There always going be someone smarter than me whether they have a college degree or not, but with my training I SHOULD be better than them at specialized knowledge. I get paid because I have such extensive specialized knowledge, that will make someone else more productive, because he/she do not have the kind of skills that I possessed.

Most people go to college because they think it guarantees a job or they think people will believe they are smarter than those without a degree. That an erroneous belief, you are there to learn something specialized which will be valuable to society or for your own interest.

There only two jobs I will accept after college: Any financial analyst job on Wall Street or LaSalle street, or an accounting job for CPA firm. If any employer tried offer me a non finance related position they can kiss my arse (Hopefully I will get an intern before going to graduate school for my master)

[daviscw]

You have a lot to learn my friend.

Going to college is more than job training. The arts, musics, and theater classes are to make a well rounded student, not necessarily to "get more money." You have to remember the arts and music majors are taking classes like yours that do nothing for them. I had to take Accounting and Business Law, but I am a Construction Management major. You are missing the point that college is just about building you a resume to show that you are competent in more than one subject, rather than "learning a job". If college was about "learning a job", then you wouldn't spend 2 out of 4 years taking general education classes.

I will say this again, and most of the older folks here with jobs will agree: There is no class in college that will prepare you for a real world job. There are classes that help, but studying 3 hours a week is nowhere near close to actual on the job experience.

You seem very organized and optimistic about your plans. I think myself others here are trying to stress that any job right now is hard to come by, much less a job in your particular field. Not many people actually start out with the jobs they are "trained" for either. I guarantee you will be stacking papers and making copies long before you do whatever a CPA does. Good luck with that.