Super User grimlin Posted June 26, 2009 Super User Posted June 26, 2009 I need something settled.It's a debate on pitbulls. My question is do pitbulls have a locking jaw or is it just the fact of greater pressure they can apply? Reason why i ask this...because years ago i seen a guy shoot a pitbull who had his dog in the neck and killed the pitbull...but it never released it's jaw...they had to pry the dead pitbull apart from his dog. Can you explain why to me? Quote
Super User Raul Posted June 26, 2009 Super User Posted June 26, 2009 "Lockjaw" is a myth, the animal not willing to release is the real reason. Through selective breeding the muscles that close the mouth have been enlarged so a Pitt even without mouth muscle training can create an enormous ammount of force when it closes it 's mouth, now if you add to that training to fight, man you got a bone breaking chewing machine. Pitts are not bad dogs, unfortunately it 's the people who makes them bad. A Pitt should not bite. I 've worked with many Pitts and they are lovely, never been bit by one. Now just ask me how many times I 've been bit by toy breeds and you 'll see who 's meaner. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted June 27, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 27, 2009 Thank you for your knowledge! Quote
atx_newbie Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Yeah, pit's don't have a locking jaw, but it is a powerful jaw. My dog is a mutt, but definitely has some pit in him, and he hasn't yet come across something that he can't snap in two pieces after one bite. I'll give him a bone from a beef rib, and it'll be crushed to powder in about 30 seconds. When I'm smoking a rib rack or brisket or something, I have to keep the wood chips out of his reach, because he eats them for fun. When I first got him, I tried to break him of the habit because I was afraid he would puncture something in his belly, but it never caused him any harm, so I just let him do it now. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted June 28, 2009 Super User Posted June 28, 2009 Yeah, pit's don't have a locking jaw, but it is a powerful jaw. My dog is a mutt, but definitely has some pit in him, and he hasn't yet come across something that he can't snap in two pieces after one bite. I'll give him a bone from a beef rib, and it'll be crushed to powder in about 30 seconds. When I'm smoking a rib rack or brisket or something, I have to keep the wood chips out of his reach, because he eats them for fun. When I first got him, I tried to break him of the habit because I was afraid he would puncture something in his belly, but it never caused him any harm, so I just let him do it now. Uncooked bones don't splinter. Cooked bones will, and they can do serious damage. Get 'im some beef knuckles from the meat department. Most also sell bones that have marrow in them. Cost a bit more than cooked scraps, but also will do a better job at cleaning his teeth. Quote
dave Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 I bought a Staffordshire Bull Terrier when I was 18. They are the original fighting pits from England. (before American of course made them bigger and better :) Sweetest dog ever. Quote
Super User CWB Posted June 29, 2009 Super User Posted June 29, 2009 "Lockjaw" is a myth, the animal not willing to release is the real reason. Through selective breeding the muscles that close the mouth have been enlarged so a Pitt even without mouth muscle training can create an enormous ammount of force when it closes it 's mouth, now if you add to that training to fight, man you got a bone breaking chewing machine. Pitts are not bad dogs, unfortunately it 's the people who makes them bad. A Pitt should not bite. I 've worked with many Pitts and they are lovely, never been bit by one. Now just ask me how many times I 've been bit by toy breeds and you 'll see who 's meaner. Agree with Raul 100% on Pitts. (American Staffordshire Terrier) My brother has 2 of them and I love to go out in the back yard and wrestle with them. Unfortunately, they always kick my butt. Never once even a threat of a bite. He trains dogs and had Dobermans until one bit his son. Any dog can be trained to be a killer. Some are just inherently better than others. I've heard German Shepherds are one of the meanest breeds. I have a Dachshund that thinks its a Wolverine. > Quote
Daniel My Brother Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 I was at the boat ramp yesterday with my 9 year old daughter....A local family and their 3 pit bulls were next to the ramp swimming (it's a no swimming lake). When we got out of the vehicle, the dog's owners, who were rough looking themselves, started yelling at the dogs to behave. The dogs were not on leashes and they were looking at us like lunch. I know they're not born to be bad, but when I see Pit Bulls in situations like this, they make me a nervous wreck. Too many times the people who buy them don't want a pet, they want the meanest dog in town. Quote
slomoe Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 People have the idea that APBT's are baby killers. Most people think that because this breed of dog was bred to fight, that they are aggressive towards people. In fact its quite the opposite. These dogs fought to please their owners. Although most pitbulls are very affectionate with other animals and humans, they are not for the complacent owner. A lot of APBT's become dog aggressive as they mature. It's in their blood. I never leave my dog alone with another dog, she stays in the crate. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted June 29, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 29, 2009 I still get mixed feeling about pits talking to certain people.Some people love them and think they are the kindest dogs,other think they are Natural born killers. Most people here have them to look "tough". Quote
Super User Raul Posted June 29, 2009 Super User Posted June 29, 2009 The meanest dog I 've dealt with in my 20 years of practice is a toy poodle female called "Bolita" .... she even bites her owner , I have to muzzle her every time she shows up for grooming. How many mean Pitts I 've dealt with in those 20 years ? ---> 0. How many times have I muzzled a Pitt ? ---> 0 Do I think Pitts are natural born killers ? nope For that matter, the only dogs I pay close attention on how they are reacting when I 'm dealing with them are Rottweilers, Chows, Belgian Malinese Sheperds and those darn chihuahuas and poodles. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted June 29, 2009 Author Super User Posted June 29, 2009 I have yet to come across a mean chihuahua yet.They shake like crazy though... ;D Poodles however....I've been bit by them more times than i care to tell. My best friend was attacked by a doberman when he was 8.Still has the scars to show for it.Looks like somebody took a razor blade and started slicing up his back and left side.Settled on a lawsuit.His dad didn't tell me all the details,but they were able to buy a house because of it.Once he turned 21 the house was his. Quote
Super User Root beer Posted June 29, 2009 Super User Posted June 29, 2009 The meanest dog I 've dealt with in my 20 years of practice . I don't know if I want take my pooch to your clinic. I don't want you practicing, I want you to use knowledge. ;D I love joking on doctors when they say the word practice. ;D Quote
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