Palomar Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Any salary workers on here, I have a question for ya. Does your employer keep track of your attendance? Lates, Days off and or sick days?? Quote
Uncle Leo Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Most will but will not necessarily pentalize you, that is if you normally work longer then 8 hours which most will do as you reach management level. Quote
dave Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Days off and sick days yes but, not late or leaving a little early when necessary. Quote
Super User flechero Posted June 16, 2009 Super User Posted June 16, 2009 Depends on the company, the job you are in and your specific contract or arrangement... If my projects are on track or ahead of schedule, I can come and go as I please. The flip side is that when we are real busy or behind, I may be here on the weekend or in the evenings. Contrast that against my last employer, who expected us to be seen at our desks during business hours. You'll find that most companies have an allotted number of sick days and holiday/vacation days you can take, and they usually track them since they are paid days. I think you only see people keeping track of being late, when it becomes an issue or regular occurrence. Quote
done Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Any salary workers on here, I have a question for ya. Does your employer keep track of your attendance? Lates, Days off and or sick days?? Depends on the jobs. I have not had a time clock or anything like that in a long time. I also do not have a 9-5 schedule so it would be difficult to attempt to give me a timeclock. That being said, they do have to bill for my hours with clients and in those cases I am extremely meticulous on recording time. Now, when it comes to PTO (all out sick and vacation , etc get lumped in there), we do have a set number and record them, they are paid days and we need to know where our cash is going. As I generate revenue any day I an not working I am not billing and that is like turning a machine off on the floor, they have to know when and why it is down. However, more than once I have put in a excessive amount of billable hours and they will just tell me to disappear for a day or 2. So short answer, yes they track PTO but not too anally. Quote
ring fry Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 I'm pretty sure that an employer cannot physically track how many hours you work if you are not an hourly employee. As has been mentioned, chronic tardiness can definately be an issue. Most places definately keep track of sick time, vacation, or PTO. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 16, 2009 Super User Posted June 16, 2009 I am salary exempt. I do track effort, on a project by project basis, and sick days, holidays, vacation, pers. time is tracked. I get paid the same monthly salary, regardless. Quote
done Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 That and if you are not getting any work done...they tend to notice. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 16, 2009 Super User Posted June 16, 2009 I'm pretty sure that an employer cannot physically track how many hours you work if you are not an hourly employee. As has been mentioned, chronic tardiness can definately be an issue. Most places definately keep track of sick time, vacation, or PTO.Uhhh, why not? How do you think they get their performance baselines? Its pretty easy to track a salaried employee these days. Work output, that's another story. BTW, I build web based reporting solutions for just that - tracking workers and what they do. Quote
Daniel My Brother Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Some projects require extra hours, occasionally I get to leave early. Sick days and vacation days are accounted for, nobody really tracks when I come in or leave, but I'm not out to take advantage of the situation. Employees who abuse privileges, don't remain employees for long. Quote
Palomar Posted June 16, 2009 Author Posted June 16, 2009 we're a small group of salary workers and the employer has not kept track of the time since past, something has changed and they started to this year. but its not a good way, it started off by others are suppose to tell on ya if your not here, then now its required that you have to keep it updated. well I found out today that I'm the only one that was being kept tracked of on leaving early so that peed me off for being singled out, I have three leave early days this whole year so far, so by no means am I taking advantage of it. I'm concerned about it and may need to seek some Fair act policy about it, I don't know right now just a bit peed off, can't think straight. Quote
bowfish12 Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Depends on the company, the job you are in and your specific contract or arrangement... If my projects are on track or ahead of schedule, I can come and go as I please. The flip side is that when we are real busy or behind, I may be here on the weekend or in the evenings. Contrast that against my last employer, who expected us to be seen at our desks during business hours. You'll find that most companies have an allotted number of sick days and holiday/vacation days you can take, and they usually track them since they are paid days. I think you only see people keeping track of being late, when it becomes an issue or regular occurrence. Same here. Quote
Super User flechero Posted June 16, 2009 Super User Posted June 16, 2009 well I found out today that I'm the only one that was being kept tracked of on leaving early so that peed me off for being singled out, . Maybe you should track the days/hours you stay late to show that you aren't taking advantage of anything. If nothing else, maybe you'll be working more OT than UT and they will drop it. Quote
done Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure that an employer cannot physically track how many hours you work if you are not an hourly employee. As has been mentioned, chronic tardiness can definately be an issue. Most places definately keep track of sick time, vacation, or PTO.Uhhh, why not? How do you think they get their performance baselines? Its pretty easy to track a salaried employee these days. Work output, that's another story. BTW, I build web based reporting solutions for just that - tracking workers and what they do. Great! Though those systems never work for me since i legally changed my name to "Mike'); Drop table Employee; " Ever since then those systems never can get my time in right. Quote
done Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 we're a small group of salary workers and the employer has not kept track of the time since past, something has changed and they started to this year. but its not a good way, it started off by others are suppose to tell on ya if your not here, then now its required that you have to keep it updated. well I found out today that I'm the only one that was being kept tracked of on leaving early so that peed me off for being singled out, I have three leave early days this whole year so far, so by no means am I taking advantage of it. I'm concerned about it and may need to seek some Fair act policy about it, I don't know right now just a bit peed off, can't think straight. I had an employer once who was really anal about me leaving early every now and then. When he called me on it, I told him if he wanted to play mr stopwatch I could to. I came in my 40 hours normal time (9-5). I had been coming in (6-4) and putting in a lot of extra hours to make sure all the project stayed on time or were early. After 2 months of late projects he got the point. Truthfully though nowadays, if i got a beef with my employer, I talk to him. Course I got a boss who is really good about that as long as you are not disrespectful about it. Quote
Super User CWB Posted June 17, 2009 Super User Posted June 17, 2009 I stay late quite often and leave early at times to watch my son's ballgames, go to the doctor, etc. I also work an occasional Saturday when needed. My boss is the Pres. and he's pretty cool. He usually gives me an xtra vac. day if I work a Sat. It all evens out though there are some that abuse the coming late and leaving early part. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 17, 2009 Super User Posted June 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure that an employer cannot physically track how many hours you work if you are not an hourly employee. As has been mentioned, chronic tardiness can definately be an issue. Most places definately keep track of sick time, vacation, or PTO.Uhhh, why not? How do you think they get their performance baselines? Its pretty easy to track a salaried employee these days. Work output, that's another story. BTW, I build web based reporting solutions for just that - tracking workers and what they do. Great! Though those systems never work for me since i legally changed my name to "Mike'); Drop table Employee; " Ever since then those systems never can get my time in right. ROTFLMAO!!!! For those not as astute as M Starr, I'll fix their records for $50, LOL. (drop table doesn't work on my databases...... I actually had a guy try it!) Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted June 17, 2009 Super User Posted June 17, 2009 I had around 40-45 hourly and 5 or 6 salaried employees working for me. I was pretty flexible but a lot had to do with the job description. Salesman are not expected to hang around but be in the field working on new accounts, pretty easy to keep track based on performance. Bookkeepers, reception, scale man, yard foreman had to be on site at all times but they had it easy with me as long as there was no abuse. Anyone is replaceable. Almost all of my friends were business owners or professionals as well, some were harder than me, some easier. " It's nice to be the king !" , Mel Brooks, History of the World part 1 Quote
George Welcome Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 An employer that doesn't know what is going on in a business isn't going to be in business very long. Quote
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