Money helping enforcement crack down on speeders

[FishingBuds]

Our county recieved a grant So, in 2008 officials from the Indiana Criminal Justice Instute took action by puting more money in the hands of law enforcement officials to catch speeders.

I don't understand this, nothen against the officers but, why do they need more money for the job that they are required to do? is it over time?

and whats up with this statement "When we are working, a grant requires our officers to make three stops an hour at a minimum,"

I thought quotas wore a myth

[slomoe]

Takes money to make money. :

[Siebert Outdoors]

I could be wrong on this but I do believe it puts more officers on the road for traffic stops only, unless emergency arises.  Their main focus is traffic stops.  Not all that $ stays with the city on those stops from what an officer has told me.

That is my understanding of it.

[FishingBuds]

So it has to be just more paid hours then?  Not hiring more Officers

The 3 required stops an hour is funny?  That looks as if they need money back.

[Siebert Outdoors]

right.  its like your company offering overtime.  the $ has to come from somewhere to pay them.

3 per hr per officer is probably about right.  figure by time he stops someone, does the call in, then does the paperwork and listens to the complaint of why you were speeding takes about 20 minutes or so.  

[done]

If it is any consolation guys, these traffic stops pick up so many real criminals. I know my sisters first traffic stop when she was out of training in her own patrol car. Dude was doing 65 in a 45, 1 tail light out, no headlights on the front of the car at all, missing 1 license plate (in NY you need 2). She pulls this pile of moving violations over, and ends up he has a trunk FULL of illegal firearms. Largest gun bust in the history of our small town. The largest drug bust we had was something similar.

So yeah, these suck but they do allow the cops to grab some nasty folks and to be honest, I have gotten 2 speeding tickets in my life and I deserved both. If you are getting ticket, you are breaking the law. I would fear what our roads would be like without enforcement of the laws governing them.

[FishingBuds]

If it is any consolation guys, these traffic stops pick up so many real criminals. I know my sisters first traffic stop when she was out of training in her own patrol car. Dude was doing 65 in a 45, 1 tail light out, no headlights on the front of the car at all, missing 1 license plate (in NY you need 2). She pulls this pile of moving violations over, and ends up he has a trunk FULL of illegal firearms. Largest gun bust in the history of our small town. The largest drug bust we had was something similar.

So yeah, these suck but they do allow the cops to grab some nasty folks and to be honest, I have gotten 2 speeding tickets in my life and I deserved both. If you are getting ticket, you are breaking the law. I would fear what our roads would be like without enforcement of the laws governing them.

I'm not bashing the cops,  I have some kin folk in the law inforcment bizz, It sounds like the our State allowed it anyway what I don't get is granting money on the job they already do? Why is overtime needed to catch speeders that much more?????  We do have a large Highway project the next 4 years, I wonder if that has something to do with it?

[skunked_again]

id pay the police to give out tickets around my house. SOME kids think back streets are a perfect place to race their rice burners. i also have to cross a highway to get to my subdivision and although the speedlimit is 55 mph if youre not 70 in the left lane (which you have to use to slow down to cross the highway) youre getting bread by the driver behind you.

[done]

id pay the police to give out tickets around my house. SOME kids think back streets are a perfect place to race their rice burners. i also have to cross a highway to get to my subdivision and although the speedlimit is 55 mph if youre not 70 in the left lane (which you have to use to slow down to cross the highway) youre getting bread by the driver behind you.

We are very fortunate here with that type of thing. I emailed the police about a dude who used to speed past our house every day in a red firebird. I emailed them Monday morning, on Friday a cop followed me into our driveway told me he just got done writing him his 3rd tick of the week. They mailed him wednesday, thursday, and friday same place, same time.

[Sam]

At the Emporia section of I-95 takes in around $1,500,000 a year from traffic tickets on I-95 and Route 58.

Friend on Virginia State Police tells me that there is no quota system but if the troopers want to go from 5 tickets a day to 7 then that is OK.

It is all about the income.

Follow the money.  

[Sam]

Opps!

Left out Greensville County in my post.

Sorry.

[Low_Budget_Hooker]

It gives officers an incentive to work instead of sitting on their butt on side of road while munching on donuts and drinking coffee.

....isn't that what the paycheck for the first 40 hrs is for??

[Munkin]

I wish they would ticket the people that double park around here! They could write 15 tickets per hour on any given day. People will go as far a getting out and putting on their alarm right beside a parking space! >

Allen

[bassnleo]

Allow me to add my .02

We have and participate in traffic safety programs here. The grants are intended to put officers on the street soley for enforcing agressive driving actions or seatbelt violations. Here in PA a police dept has to apply for the grants, then be approved for them, by our DOT. PennDOT examines the crash statistics for the police depts region then tells us what highways we have to run the enforcement on.

Officers are ASKED to average 2 stops per hour. It's about visibility...

I can tell you firsthand that these programs work.

We have a particular strech of road that averaged several crashes a week due to agressive driving. We have reduced our crashes on that strech by 40% over the past 2 years. On top of that, I can't tell you the number of additional things we have acheived like DUI arrests, drug arrests, warrant arrests, etc while performing these enforcement waves.

If you think it's about the $$$, so be it. I personally have no idea where ticket money goes and I've been doing this almost 15 years now. I'm out there to help other motorists be able to safely about their lives without having someone ruin it by driving like an idiot and causing a crash. That's what it's about for me......

As far as the negative and derogatory comments about Police in this thread........ :-X :-X :-X

[Bassn Blvd]

A lot, if not most, of the money goes to building and maintaining the roadways within your state. Some departments get $1 from each ticket written contributed to the city retirement fund. The department, including the deputy, I work for gets ZERO money from tickets.

Also, more cops are killed from doing traffic stops than any other call for service so I'm pretty sure we don't get our rocks off by pulling people over for the heck of it.

[FishingBuds]

Allow me to add my .02

We have and participate in traffic safety programs here. The grants are intended to put officers on the street soley for enforcing agressive driving actions or seatbelt violations. Here in PA a police dept has to apply for the grants, then be approved for them, by our DOT. PennDOT examines the crash statistics for the police depts region then tells us what highways we have to run the enforcement on.

Officers are ASKED to average 2 stops per hour. It's about visibility...

I can tell you firsthand that these programs work.

We have a particular strech of road that averaged several crashes a week due to agressive driving. We have reduced our crashes on that strech by 40% over the past 2 years. On top of that, I can't tell you the number of additional things we have acheived like DUI arrests, drug arrests, warrant arrests, etc while performing these enforcement waves.

If you think it's about the $$$, so be it. I personally have no idea where ticket money goes and I've been doing this almost 15 years now. I'm out there to help other motorists be able to safely about their lives without having someone ruin it by driving like an idiot and causing a crash. That's what it's about for me......

As far as the negative and derogatory comments about Police in this thread........ :-X :-X :-X

So when they apply and are approved for the grants, they use the grant money for the study?   I think your post led to my actual question, what is the grant used on??

[FishingBuds]

A lot, if not most, of the money goes to building and maintaining the roadways within your state. Some departments get $1 from each ticket written contributed to the city retirement fund. The department, including the deputy, I work for gets ZERO money from tickets.

Also, more cops are killed from doing traffic stops than any other call for service so I'm pretty sure we don't get our rocks off by pulling people over for the heck of it.

I'll say this again and this is toward my state not the cops, but we do have a major new highway under construction and in 2007 it slowed down due to funds, now they OK a grant for speeding in 2008 inside my county, and we got a new undercover Ford explorer and mustang that runs up and down this highway construction, Hmm?

Well then the highway project is mysteriously refunded and its ahead of schedule by October 2008.

As of 2009 I have not seen the undercover Explorer or mustang yet.

[bassnleo]

Allow me to add my .02

We have and participate in traffic safety programs here. The grants are intended to put officers on the street soley for enforcing agressive driving actions or seatbelt violations. Here in PA a police dept has to apply for the grants, then be approved for them, by our DOT. PennDOT examines the crash statistics for the police depts region then tells us what highways we have to run the enforcement on.

Officers are ASKED to average 2 stops per hour. It's about visibility...

I can tell you firsthand that these programs work.

We have a particular strech of road that averaged several crashes a week due to agressive driving. We have reduced our crashes on that strech by 40% over the past 2 years. On top of that, I can't tell you the number of additional things we have acheived like DUI arrests, drug arrests, warrant arrests, etc while performing these enforcement waves.

If you think it's about the $$$, so be it. I personally have no idea where ticket money goes and I've been doing this almost 15 years now. I'm out there to help other motorists be able to safely about their lives without having someone ruin it by driving like an idiot and causing a crash. That's what it's about for me......

As far as the negative and derogatory comments about Police in this thread........ :-X :-X :-X

So when they apply and are approved for the grants, they use the grant money for the study? I think your post led to my actual question, what is the grant used on??

The grant money pays for additional officers to be on the road. These officers soley do agressive drivng enforcement. It is usually overtime.

For example, I'm doing it the next 3 months. I get 3.5 overtime hours per month. During those hours I only do agressive driving enforcement on the highways that PennDOT says we have to do it on.

[roadwarrior]

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