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[Root beer]

Any of the moderators want to explain why you deleted my last thread I started? I actually made a useful post for once and it gets deleted. Nice.

[atx_newbie]

I think it's because there was already a thread about AIG, which already got closed for political reasons.

[Root beer]

ATX, it was a different thread. I made a thread and posted a link that deals with today issue in the economy that really useful for EVERYONE to understand whats happening in the economy today. And it got deleted...

The link was no different from what we discuss everyday on here when RW post a stock market thread...

If you are still interesting in the link PM me and I'll send you link.

P.S. this isn't no foxnews crap that RW post, this is a actual person that studies Finance in our society today. Great article.

[atx_newbie]

Sorry, I just assumed that was the one.  Yes, I would like to check it out.

[daviscw]

Any of the moderators want to explain why you deleted my last thread I started? I actually made a useful post for once and it gets deleted. Nice.

Welcome to the kingdom, my friend!

[Triton21]

Root Beer, We all know that the Mod's  are always right.  If you or anyone else, including me, don't like it we can move on to another forum.

[Glenn]

I deleted it. It was too political.  

You can pretty much assume any subject that discusses government involvement is subject to being closed or deleted.

Please read the sticky about no political or religious posts for further clarification.

[Root beer]

Glenn, I can see how you thought it was politic, but it actually wasn't! It just a brief recap of how the economy fell. And it also gives a great opinion about prevention. It did not say that the particular party screw the economy or anything.

But oh well. It was an educational read. 8-)

[Glenn]

Any topic that discusses gov't involvement in business turns political.  Happens every time without fail.  Seen it too many times to count now.

I realize you feel singled out, but trust me, when it comes to hot topics like these, I don't look at who's posting a topic when deciding if any action needs to be taken on a thread.

[SirSnookalot]

A forum is not a democracy and and there should be guidelines followed by all. Some topics seem always to lead into a discussion of politics, the economy for one because it is so intertwined with politics.  A stock market slump or surge for example may be caused by economic policies by the government........that's politics.

IMO the moderators themselves need to stay away from starting threads that can lead into a political discussion.

[Muddy]

A forum is not a democracy and and there should be guidelines followed by all. Some topics seem always to lead into a discussion of politics, the economy for one because it is so intertwined with politics. A stock market slump or surge for example may be caused by economic policies by the government........that's politics.

IMO the moderators themselves need to stay away from starting threads that can lead into a political discussion.

 That is an excellent point as it happens on the everything board a lot, and this should be reconsidered because then we answer in ways that are also contrary to policy and wind up on the short end of the stick. Most us realize that we can not control each other and when we put something up it is going to get all kinds of responses. I really believe that to expect because a Staff puts something up, that people will not react to politically charged and current issues in any other fashion. I glad you put that up it has needed to be said for a while.

[MALTESE FALCON]

I agree with SirSnookalot and Muddy.

Falcon

[done]

Another thought as well guys.  If you think a moderator has started one of the types of threads mentioned above, or if you have an issue with them deleting on of yours, IMO, the best way to handle it, write Glenn a PM and manage the discussion that way. Throwing such discussions out in an open forum can sometimes give a moderator the feeling you are calling him/her out or challenging their authority.  

I have had a couple threads deleted and I just write it off to the mods erring on the side of caution in trying to keep the boards clean and free from flame wars which can totally poison a board.

The "everything else" topics on message boards are typically the most difficult to manage as they are the most likely to break into flame wars.

Just coming from someone who has managed forums on other sites in the past...

[senile1]

I like our moderators and I like Glenn. I think they do a great job with a huge 20,000 member forum. Having said that, I agree with Muddy and SirSnookalot. No one should start a thread that could lead to a political discussion.

Many of us have managed businesses in everyday life. If someone calls you out publicly and they are correct, a real leader doesn't hold a grudge or seek revenge. As a manager, when you make a mistake, you apologize publicly when called out. That's one sign of a good leader. Our moderators manage this forum. I think these guys are man enough to handle being called out in a respectful manner.

[done]

I like our moderators and I like Glenn. I think they do a great job with a huge 20,000 member forum. Having said that, I agree with Muddy and SirSnookalot. No one should start a thread that could lead to a political discussion.

M Starr, many of us have managed businesses in everyday life. If someone calls you out publicly and they are correct, a real leader doesn't hold a grudge or seek revenge. As a manager, when you make a mistake, you apologize publicly when called out. That's the sign of a good leader. Our moderators manage this forum. I think these guys are man enough to handle being called out in a respectful manner.

Very true on the mods. And as a manager, I have made mistakes that I have had folks call me on. I personally appreciate those who come to me though. If I owe an apology to others then I give it.  I guess the key is respectfully bring it up. On forums I have managed,  very frequently you get one person who throws out a thread on his thread being deleted (Many times with no ill intent), next thing you know there is a flame war with folks tearing into mods. Almost like a religious or political thread.

Like you said though, Glenn and the mods are big boys, if they have an issue they will say it themselves.

[senile1]

You are correct, M Starr.  That word, respectful, is the difference maker.  I hope everyone realizes I'm not condoning "attacking" the moderators and Glenn.  I think they do a fantastic job!  

[Glenn]

All feedback is welcome and greatly appreciated.  And I do prefer PM.

However, please understand that the mods and I look at things from a conflict perspective. That is, we're always on the lookout for what threads have the potential to blow up into a flame war in a hurry.   We look at the content of a thread for this potential, and never the name of the person doing the posting.  

Editing, closing, or deleting a thread is NEVER a personal vendetta. Ever.

 

Often we seem to shut down threads on a whim or without much merit.  But to us, we've seen similar threads explode into angry words and insults, which in turn leads to members leaving.  We're able to recognize these issues before they happen. So we stop them before they even begin.  

 

When we do, we're often criticized for being too militant, unequal, or we're exercising favoritism or censorship.  When we don't, we're criticized for not doing enough.  It's a no-win situation sometimes.

 

Honestly though. Please remember that we are not perfect, and each of us has our own way of doing things. If you were to ask all of us our opinions on something you would get five totally different views. But we always respect each other's decisions and we aren't afraid to let each other know how we feel about that decision. That is what has always made our team work so well.

 

Sometimes I wish each member could look over our shoulder for one day and see what we do and the things we have to deal with. Our goal has always been to keep BassResource a place where everyone can feel comfortable. 

 

So before you fire off an angry PM to me about a perceived injustice, please consider this, and that we're only trying to keep this place a fun, friendly environment for all to enjoy. Thanks to all the members who make our jobs a little easier. You guys are great.

 

Glenn

[FishingBuds]

Technically we could be getting political on this thread

[Captain Obvious]

I like all the Moderators and I think that all and all they do great jobs ( though I think that RW shuts down some posts a little to early, but still thats his call not mine)

But there was a post on here titled " hottest women" that I thought was a little outside the rules  

[MitchIsFishin]

Glenn, I think, by and large all mod's here do a great job. RW sometimes shows his political virtue, and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it is kept 'generic', in whatever sense generic can be applied to political persuasions, but even Kent seems to toe the line. My opinion, which is not worth 0.02 cents minus a penny is to not allow anything that can become politically heated, in any sense. This is a bass forum, and the BEST bar none. Having a forum that delves into areas other than bass fishing is fine, but politics (like religion) merely begs for conflicts. You don't need it and we as the lucky recipients of your forums don't want it. Just MHO.

[jimmieO]

rules are rules. I don't pay the bills or the salaries here. Just glad to have a place to b.s. with all of you guys and gals.

[fish-fighting-illini]

I like all the Moderators and I think that all and all they do great jobs ( though I think that RW shuts down some posts a little to early, but still thats his call not mine)

But there was a post on here titled " hottest women" that I thought was a little outside the rules

 Actualy I was surprised it was shut down as several similar threads have been posted over the years. I thought I posted to keep it clean. I'll have to check the guidlines. Better to be safe than sorry anyway so as not to offend someone.

Sorry to anyone that it might have.

[The_Natural]

I'll quote homer simpson on this one...

"If you don't like it....move to Russia."

[flechero]

Sometimes I wish each member could look over our shoulder for one day and see what it is we do and the things we have to deal with.

Good idea, I'd love to... what's your password? ;D

[Fisher of Men]

But there was a post on here titled " hottest women" that I thought was a little outside the rules

If I recall, it was deleted within a short time after getting out of hand.

Glenn's right.  Just the mere mention of "bailouts" and "big-business" makes my blood boil.  Not too much productive has come out of any of those threads lately.