Captain Chaos II Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 What applications are they good for and what do they do?? Thanks Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 12, 2008 Super User Posted June 12, 2008 http://www.fishingworld.com/Slider/Details.tmpl?ID=95687337951554 I prefer the Spider Slider style of head because it is the most snagfree. It is one of the best post cold front presentations. Some use it just like any other regular jig head. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted June 12, 2008 Super User Posted June 12, 2008 They are a finesse application and they catch fish. Have you looked at their website by chance? If not, do that. They have different styles of heads that can be fished in various elements. Slider fishing is a killer way to score fish when nothing else is working. People talk about "panic box" or last ditch methods/baits and if I had a panic box it would consist of finesse lures/methods. Slider Fishing is probably my #1 finesse method. Charlie Brewer did it right!! This is also some of the most killer panfish tackle I've fished. The best thing about it all??? It's FUN fishing because it's basically a light tackle presentation. When you get on a good Slider bite you are having SERIOUS fun. Quote
Captain Chaos II Posted June 12, 2008 Author Posted June 12, 2008 So as the name implies....do you just slide it on the bottom generally or do you pick it up off the bottom or whatever works? Thanks Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted June 12, 2008 Super User Posted June 12, 2008 The original head design imparted a bit of "glide" to the bait. The original and snagless heads are shaped to do that. The Spider is not. but yes, you fish them slow. I fish with quick, light pops of the rod tip to get that "glide". There are numerous ways to fish them of course. I'm headed out right now for 3 days of fishing and I'm figuring on lots of Slider action. This is a subject I love, it's such a great system and widely overlooked. If you want more info, just shoot me a PM on Monday night. Your best source though is to read Charlie's book, available on their website. M power spinning rods, light line (6lb test for me) is what I use for fishing sliders. Quote
Autiger24 Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 so you just pop it and then let it settle down to the bottom again? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted June 12, 2008 Super User Posted June 12, 2008 If you read about the original presentation of Slider fishing, it simulates the way bait fish seem to just glide as they move about without a lot of body wiggle. I guess it was the forerunner of swimming a jig. The presentation is to just throw it out, and reel in slowly, not tying to add any motion to the lure. Your natural body nervousness will impart some light action. The original Slider rod is less than 5' in length; I have several that are 4' 10", with a Tennessee handle. I use the Spider Slider head version for working the bait over and through cover. In recent years, a jig model has been marketed with a stronger hook called the Pro Model Slider Head and is of the Spider version head. I never cared for the ball type head for deep fishing that he came out with before he passed away. Quote
Zel Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Yes, you just pop it and then let it settle down to the bottom again, or drag it, or fish it like a T-rig, or hop it, etc., etc.... work it any and every way imaginable. You need to go finesse at some of the Pocono lakes, and cold water situations up north, if you want to be successful. I've been using Charlie Brewer baits and tackle for over 20 years. And Charlie Brewer... of Slider fame, is also credited with inventing the Gitzit (tube bait). I'm a big fan of the Slider head jigs, their various 4 Slider worms, their 1.5 Slider grubs for cold water smallmouth, and their long discontinued Hard Times Grubs. I use the Spider Classic Head (3/0 hook), the Slider Spider Head (2/0 hook), and when I want a gliding action I go with the Snagless Slider Head. I haven't used there other style heads in quite a while. I also use Slider head jigs for various other grubs, slim sticks, beaver craws, and many other plastics. They use thin wire hooks (excellent for smaller plastics), and can be worked easily through a plethora of obstacles like weeds, rocks and wood. And when they do get hung up, the hook often bends and you get back your entire rig. You just need to take your pliers and bend the business end back into shape. Now, if you hook into a monster, you need to be careful to not horse it in. Quote
hjerk24 Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I use the 1/8- 1/16th oz. spider head 2 3/4" with a baby brush hog-or yamamoto crayfish, and have awesome hook-up ratio's. I throw them out, and then slow hop back a few times, then reel in. Most strikes will come on the first few pick ups. I only raise the rod tip a few inches. They are a great hook, but do bend up more easily that others. I have one on, and fish them with most of my finesse baits. Good Luck- Jamie Quote
Super User Micro Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 I use the 1/16 and 1/8 OZ slider heads (bullet head), too, with 4" Zoom Finesse Worms. They make the worms sink slowly in a slightly-off-vertical manner. I used them last week flipping them (on a 7' M/F baitcaster) around a pier and they were very productive. These are fantasic for finesse fishing. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 More information on slider fishing than you'll be able to absorb if you search through the old threads on NYBASS. com and Bronzeback.com Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted June 13, 2008 Super User Posted June 13, 2008 I have been fishing the Charlie Brewer slider since the late 70s when I was living in Alabama. It will sure break a slump. Quote
The_Natural Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 I use the 1/16 and 1/8 OZ slider heads (bullet head), too, with 4" Zoom Finesse Worms. They make the worms sink slowly in a slightly-off-vertical manner. I used them last week flipping them (on a 7' M/F baitcaster) around a pier and they were very productive. These are fantasic for finesse fishing. +1 The Slider worm is designed to swim through the water column. I guess you could bump the bottom with it, but I'd go for a different head. I generally fish them on 30-45 degree banks or points and under docks. The little slider worms on that head just glide through the water column. Just leave your rod tip high and reel slowly intermittently...it will swim back to the boat with little effort on your part. Quote
Super User Micro Posted June 14, 2008 Super User Posted June 14, 2008 They were winners again today. The 1/16th oz head with a smoke-purple finesse worms fipped around the pier. I started out using the 1/8 oz but I got no hits. The much slower sink of the 1/16 oz apparently hit the "attack button." Quote
hjerk24 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Just ordered the 1/8th and the 1/16th oz. spider classic 20 pack. will do me well for my trip to Champlain and the next few Fishers of men tournies. These hooks rock!!!! Had on a few years back inhale the Brush Hog, had a rough fight, and the hook bent, which happens with these, and it actulaly bent right around the fishes jaw, and sealed his (temporary) fait. Took third that tournament at Cayuga Lake in NY. I l love these things. Tough part I have found is that you get so accustomed to throwing them, that when you think you should throw something else, it's a tough one for the mind to take. I started throwing regular Texas rigged with a bullet weight last tournie, and did great, but felt weird not using the slider, like I niormally do. Either way--- Take Care- Jamie Quote
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