Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 Hey: I did not want to post this on another thread to not upset anyone. I don't get all the remorse shown when people who risk their lives and limbs knowingly and willingly and the finally loose the gamble. First off their is a certain amount of vicarious thrill seeing people act this way, then when it turns ugly everyone is sad. If the Crocodile guy kept dealing with dangerous animals, chances are he was gonna get hurt, he did and he continued and now he is dead. Evel Kenivle et all take risks and sometimes they get hurt or die, No one is holding a gun to their heads, I do not get all the remorse when people get taken out, based on their own decisions. Quote
Bass Dude Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I am not a fan of the X-Games stuff and all the daredevil type things, but I think people feel sad that he won't be around to keep pushing the envelope. Dale Earnhardt died and he put himself at risk everytime he got in the car. It was his choice, no one put a gun to his head. Fans are still feeling the loss of Dale. It's the loss that they are sad for. His fans wanted to see him keep doing what he's doing. I don't think you should put your sadness and loss aside just because they choose a dangerous profession. We choose to go 70MPH in a bass boat(it's not exactly the safest thing to do), does that mean if our favorite pro has an accident, we shouldn't feel any loss? Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I have a 12 ft tin boat with a 30 thrust motor, I ain't going much over0.7mph ;D For me this is not like a soldier, police or fireman who do risk taking jobs to benefit others I am talking about guys who risk their necks for any combo of: Thrills,daredevil.fame and money and get hurt or die. I ain't feelin any emotion for this. Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 We as humans have feelings, whether a person dies sitting in a chair at home, walking down the street, or doing something "dangerous" we still feel for the loss. Just because he made a choice to do something "dangerous" for a living make no difference. Would his death mean more to you if he died driving to work at a regular job? His choice of work plays no part in the sadness felt for the loss of a young man in the prime of his life. The reason dangerous is in quotes is the word means different things to different people. Motorcross is called dangerous but how many deaths have you heard from it? Remember the other post of the most "dangerous" sport, it was fishing....... Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I guess that makes me inhumane because I don't get it :-/ Quote
Bass Dude Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 It shouldn't be a surprise to his fans that someone can die doing these things, but this was a young kid, and there has to be feelings of loss and sadness. *****PLEASE NOTE****I'M NOT WISHING THIS ON ANYONE---but if that was your son, would you just disregard his death and say he deserved it, he was a daredevil?? Quote
Super User senile1 Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 Muddy, I think it is similar to you and I feeling dejected when a musician that we have known and loved for many years dies at an early age. Some of them die young because of the lifestyle they have led. No one forced them to drink heavily or take drugs on a consistent basis but some of them did it anyway and now they are gone at a much younger age. We regret they are gone for a number of reasons I guess. (What could they have accomplished if they had lived longer? We regret they are gone because of our attachment to their music. Etc.) Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I understand that Ed, I don't get the LOOK WHAT I CAN DO GUYS, getting hurt and dying. They are sane and free men, Oh well just seeing how others felt If it was my kid, My Italian wife would break my kid's neck before he got a chance to risk it Quote
Branuss04 Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 We as humans have feelings, whether a person dies sitting in a chair at home, walking down the street, or doing something "dangerous" we still feel for the loss. Just because he made a choice to do something "dangerous" for a living make no difference. Would his death mean more to you if he died driving to work at a regular job? His choice of work plays no part in the sadness felt for the loss of a young man in the prime of his life. The reason dangerous is in quotes is the word means different things to different people. Motorcross is called dangerous but how many deaths have you heard from it? Remember the other post of the most "dangerous" sport, it was fishing....... I 100% agree with you. VERY well said. No matter how a person dies I still feel sad. I had a close friend that died from lung cancer because he was a heavy smoker... am I supposed to not feel sad because "Smoking is bad for you" and it's a stupide choice. H$ll no, it was very sad!!! Muddy - Obviously everyone has different emotions when it comes to death, maybe it's just because you did not know him. Maybe if this happened to somebody you knew (Hopefully it NEVER does) you might feel some sort of "Sadness" for him/her. Just a thought. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I understand, just seeing what makes others tick. I can be pretty far removed at times. I am not saying it is good or bad. I have lost a lot of friends and family members to all sorts of mayhem , I think I am what the shrink types would called desensitized. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted February 11, 2009 Super User Posted February 11, 2009 I understand that Ed, I don't get the LOOK WHAT I CAN DO GUYS, getting hurt and dying. They are sane and free men, Oh well just seeing how others felt If it was my kid, My Italian wife would break my kid's neck before he got a chance to risk it LOL. I know if it was my kids I would definitely discourage them from doing these things. Quote
Daniel A. Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 We as humans have feelings, whether a person dies sitting in a chair at home, walking down the street, or doing something "dangerous" we still feel for the loss. Just because he made a choice to do something "dangerous" for a living make no difference. Would his death mean more to you if he died driving to work at a regular job? His choice of work plays no part in the sadness felt for the loss of a young man in the prime of his life. The reason dangerous is in quotes is the word means different things to different people. Motorcross is called dangerous but how many deaths have you heard from it? Remember the other post of the most "dangerous" sport, it was fishing....... Well said. Keep in mind, everyone that passes leaves someone behind who cares about them. In this case, he left behind a young child, his wife, his parents, and those who looked up to him. Despite his line of work, that's a very sad situation for anyone to be in. Quote
FishingBuds Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I guess that makes me inhumane because I don't get it :-/ Lets see if I get ya Muddy, to me its a hole lot of differance between a man accidently driving into a wall, verses a man purposely driving into a wall? Quote
Branuss04 Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I understand, just seeing what makes others tick. I can be pretty far removed at times. I am not saying it is good or bad. I have lost a lot of friends and family members to all sorts of mayhem , I think I am what the shrink types would called desensitized. LOL @ "desensitized" ;D Another thing that I think plays a role in this, is if you can relate to how the person died. As an avid Dirt bike rider, I can relate to his passion and what he did. I understand the thrill and adrenaline he got from riding bikes. Or maybe it could be if you've seen him on T.V, etc. But if you told me a middle-aged man in Antarctica died from a broken blood vessel that he received while playing racquetball against a monkey.... well I have no relation to any of this, so I just might shrug it off Quote
Eddie Munster Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I know what you're saying Muddy. In fact, I'm mixed about how to respond in those threads. When a person such as this dies I go through the same thought process: On one hand I think 'man, the guy has a wife, kids, etc....what the hell was he thinking? Now the kid's don't have a father, wife is widowed, who will provide for them now?' Then I think 'well maybe what he was doing was the best way he could provide for them and he was just unlucky.' So, I get what you're saying but I try to see both sides. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted February 12, 2009 Author Super User Posted February 12, 2009 I try , I have lost so many to gunshots,stabbings and overdoses from how I used to live that I just do not have remorse for people who put themselves in harms way I guess. Quote
Big Tom Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I mostly feel hurt for the individual family members. Although daredevils put their life on the line often, its still a rarity that they go out in such a fashion. I get what you are saying in that you are not surprised when news of a daredevil passes but you got to feel something for them in that they usually go out at a young age. It just seems harder to lose young people. At least they die doing what they love and not spending their last remaining years regressing. Quote
FordNFishinLover Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Muddy i totally agree on how you feel and think... Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted February 13, 2009 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted February 13, 2009 Muddy i totally agree on how you feel and think... X2 I'm sure I would feel sad if it was someone I knew. However, if it is just some "daredevil" I would probably chalk it up to one less idiot on this planet. Quote
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