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oh and i'm a bengals fan by the way incase you were wondering. i'm still not over the cheap shot on palmer.

......or all the losing! ;D      (kidding)

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- I'm still not sure if Holmes foot was on the ground. Only he knows, and he's not telling.

While I don't think Holmes got the foot down, I don't think there was enough evidence to overturn.  Though seriously, how ironic would it have been if they did overturn that call.  Refer to the Steelers/Ravens game for more information  ;D

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I lost whatever respect I had left for the Steelers last night.

Sounds like you didn't have any to begin with. ::)

Yep, your right. There wasn't much when the games started. But after watching this play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9GXtr9rpY

along with Ike Taylor trying to pick a fight with Bolidin, there isn't any left.  :)

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well when the majority of the people outside of steelers fans see's it that way their must be something going on. your opinion is biases because you are a steelers homer. there is no way they will come out in say it, hell even goddell wouldn't even show bellicheats video tapes because it will ruin the league. yeah the steelers are a better team but very questionable penalties favored the steelers which gives them the unfair advantage and extra oppurtunities and takes time off the clock. i am not convinced the better team won last night.

 I could give a care about football but as in any sport the

BETTER TEAM=TEAM WITH THE MOST POINTS AND THE TROPHY>

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The Cards did not deserve another play.  Warner lost control the of the ball before his arm went forward.  I would argue that the pick 6 to ent the half was down before the ball crossed the goal line though.

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I think that the better team won the game when it was all on the line the steelers made the plays and the cardinals did not. end of story,  If the refs were helping the steelers then Ben's first quarter touch down would have stood, and the holding in the end zone would not have been called at all.  I just love all of these guys who's teams are not winning and they are finding any excuse possible to rain on the steelers parade get over yourselves please After all it is just a game.  By the way CONGRATS TO THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS THE PITTSBURG STEELERS.

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1. The refs were ticky tacky on both sides of the field: Cards got called on some things same as Steelers. Other calls were not made; again on both teams. That first 'tuck rule' fumble was a fumble same as the one to close out the game. Just because the QB can still 'hit the ball forward' does not mean it's a incomplete pass. Not perfect officiating but pretty decent.

2. The personal foul call on Harrison was dirty as hell. When they showed that I felt he should be ejected immediately but a friend of mine said he'd like to see the whole scene of what the guy did to instigate that response. We only saw Harrision's reaction which seemed brutal but we don't know what #47 did prior to it. Spitting, trying to kneecap him, etc... we don't know.

People who didn't want the Steelers to win will cry and moan about the refs no matter what happened. You'll see what you want to see and disregard the rest, missing a great game and fantastic finish.

"Here we go Steelers, here we go!"

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I hated the Steeler's before this game, and i'll hate them after. That being said, i didn't really care who won, as long as it was fair. You can't drop the ball 10 yards directly in front of you at a 90 degree angle.  (at 20 yards per second)   Impossible.  Incomplete pass.

Volleyball players don't hold the ball (they hit it) yet accomplish kind of the same thing right?! The ball was loose before his arm started forward (2nd time) and he pretty much just batted it forward. WHICH IS A FUMBLE.

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The ball was not in Warners control when it started going forward.  It was put in forward motion by the defender as much as it was the QB.  I would liked to have seen the Cards pull it off, but that was a fumble.

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it would be pretty hard for warner to move the ball unless he could do curls with number 56 hanging from his arm. I know his arm is strong and all but thats a little much.

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I am not saying it froze. I would guess it probaly gave out under the weight of #56 and he fumbled the ball.

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Hmmm...I really don't understand all this.  I keep hearing about the refs and how they cheated the Cardinals, but it was the refs who reversed a touchdown against the Steelers and a holding call in the endzone that resulted in a safety against the Steelers and overlooked holding calls on Harrison almost every play.  So if the refs were so against the Cardinals, they even sucked at doing that.  It was a great football game no matter who you root for (though if the Cowboys or the Patriots were the winning team, maybe I would be bitter too).

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The ball was not in Warners control when it started going forward. It was put in forward motion by the defender as much as it was the QB. I would liked to have seen the Cards pull it off, but that was a fumble.

Sorry Stripe but your credibility on this one is running low for me.

In your first post, you doubted the pick six was a touchdown, and i think that that was obviously a touchdown. Seems as though we can't agree on anything........ ;D

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From a goalpost angle that they showed the play it appeared to me Harrisons left elbow/wrist was down with a small amount of green between his elbow and the goal line.  I hated hearing Michaels say it never looked like his knee was down, but on Fitzgerald.  That doesnt matter.  Elbows count just like knees.  Heck, feet and hands are the only thing that doesn't count as being down if they make contact with the ground (while being forced/touched in the NFL).  

Game speed, theres no other call the official can make but a TD though because they couldnt get down the field in time because of all the traffic on the sideline and thats the only official who could have been able to see anything that close to the sideline.  Was there enough video evidence to overturn?  No, it was very close, and you would have just about had to have been parallel to the goal line and up on it to get the call 100% accurate.  

I can say that I can make just as good an arguement that that wasn't a TD as you can make that that was an incomplete pass.  

Heck, the Cards should have had better field position to start that last drive. By NFL rule, Holmes should have been assessed a US and the kickoff should have happened from the 15.

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thanks for the last word :P

I am sure if I was a Cards fan I would of wanted one last play. but being a Steeler fan I was happy with the call.

:)

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Brent's right:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28971640/

Nobody has mentioned the fact that the Cards had to challenge 2 additional blown calls by the refs.  

Another invisible asterick next to a Stealers' SB trophy.  If I were a Stealers fan, I'd be livid about the officiating.  Too many screw-ups by the refs question the legitimacy of their win.

That's the way it is.  People are going to question it when the refs blow calls.  If you're a Stealer's fan, get over it, and demand higher standards from the officials.

As for the Stealers "dominance" - Warner had a whopping 377 yds passing - the 2nd highest in any SuperBowl, and 3 TD's, equating to a QB rating of an astonishing 112.3.  Looks like their dazzeling defense, fizzled.

One has to wonder what might have happened if Arizona's coaches had started throwing the ball earlier in the game. For some reason, the team that was last in the NFL in running the football, but near the top passing, tried to establish the run in the first half. It didn't work.

The Stealers didn't win this one.  The Cards lost it, and the refs blew it.  Nothing worth gloating about.

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Another invisible asterick next to a Stealers' SB trophy. If I were a Stealers fan, I'd be livid about the officiating. Too many screw-ups by the refs question the legitimacy of their win.

The Stealers didn't win this one. The Cards lost it, and the refs blew it. Nothing worth gloating about.

Put down the ax. Glenn; you've ground it down to the wood. ::)

I AM a Steelers fan and I saw a great game played by two great teams. The only people I see questioning the legitimacy of their victory are people who have already shown (prior to the game) that no matter how the Steelers won, they wouldn't accept it. With closed minded people, I stop listening to their opinion as it's never objective and thus bears no fruit.

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Brent's right:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28971640/

Nobody has mentioned the fact that the Cards had to challenge 2 additional blown calls by the refs.

Another invisible asterick next to a Stealers' SB trophy. If I were a Stealers fan, I'd be livid about the officiating. Too many screw-ups by the refs question the legitimacy of their win.

That's the way it is. People are going to question it when the refs blow calls. If you're a Stealer's fan, get over it, and demand higher standards from the officials.

As for the Stealers "dominance" - Warner had a whopping 377 yds passing - the 2nd highest in any SuperBowl, and 3 TD's, equating to a QB rating of an astonishing 112.3. Looks like their dazzeling defense, fizzled.

One has to wonder what might have happened if Arizona's coaches had started throwing the ball earlier in the game. For some reason, the team that was last in the NFL in running the football, but near the top passing, tried to establish the run in the first half. It didn't work.

The Stealers didn't win this one. The Cards lost it, and the refs blew it. Nothing worth gloating about.

Glenn, seriously.....GIVE IT UP MAN!!!!

Get a glass of water and rinse that bitter taste from your mouth  

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after a meeting of the warren commission they came up with the magic football theroy. :)

Warner lost control of the ball before moving his arm forward.

The ball was then caught in a draft created by the forward progress of the ball less arm, propelling it forward.

Case closed... :)

I watched alot of NFL games all season, and I am pretty sure there were challenges in most of them. Its part of the game now.

the last time I checked the steelers defense kept the cards from scoring more points than the steelers. The defense kept a great player (Fitz) in check for a whole half.

Considering the cardnals did not use many running plays, Warners passing yards dont suprisie me.

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With closed minded people, I stop listening to their opinion as it's never objective and thus bears no fruit.

That's ironic..... :-?  :D

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Brent's right:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28971640/

Nobody has mentioned the fact that the Cards had to challenge 2 additional blown calls by the refs.

Another invisible asterick next to a Stealers' SB trophy. If I were a Stealers fan, I'd be livid about the officiating. Too many screw-ups by the refs question the legitimacy of their win.

That's the way it is. People are going to question it when the refs blow calls. If you're a Stealer's fan, get over it, and demand higher standards from the officials.

As for the Stealers "dominance" - Warner had a whopping 377 yds passing - the 2nd highest in any SuperBowl, and 3 TD's, equating to a QB rating of an astonishing 112.3. Looks like their dazzeling defense, fizzled.

One has to wonder what might have happened if Arizona's coaches had started throwing the ball earlier in the game. For some reason, the team that was last in the NFL in running the football, but near the top passing, tried to establish the run in the first half. It didn't work.

The Stealers didn't win this one. The Cards lost it, and the refs blew it. Nothing worth gloating about.

Wow...someone needs to relax and go fishing.

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Another invisible asterick next to a Stealers' SB trophy. If I were a Stealers fan, I'd be livid about the officiating. Too many screw-ups by the refs question the legitimacy of their win.

Nothing worth gloating about.

Ok, two things here that I forgot to highlight:

1. You dont have any astericks due to your lack of championships.

2.  There is a difference between "gloating" and being happy that your team won.

You're stepping out of character there, Glenn.  What's up with that?   :)

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My only problem with the officiating is with the lack of review on the fumble/incompletion. It may very well have been a fumble, but with the Super Bowl on the line why does the booth not take the time to fully review it? My understanding was that the booth quickly looked at and decided it was a fumble and not worthy of complete review. This is the biggest game of the season! You can't take two minutes of your time to make sure it was the correct call before you end the game?!?

You beat me to the post. ^^^^

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