llPa1nll Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 What I am saying is the owners treat a lot of great palyers this days any way they wnat. Is this the same ownership ( Please excuse me I do not watch the AL at all) that let Boggs leave and wind up in the infield fo the hated Yankees? Owners since the days of the Black Sox Scandal to the dismanteling of the Oakland A's and Baron Von Steinbrenner have been no less forceful or greedy than the modern player. Look what happend with Seaver, he should have been a life long Met, it just is not that way anymore. If Manny gets to LA and does not produce, he has egg on his face, if Boston is teeling him we will not negotiate a longer contract, Manny has to smell the possibility of an off season trade, he may have found himself going to somehwere he really did not want go, trade restrictions aside, he controlled his move to a major market team ( endorsements woth more) with a proven manager ans a chance for WS play and he is delivering to the team that provided it. Muddy, first Im not on the side of rich owners. Secondly the current ownership came into town around 2002. Take Johnny Damon he said he wanted to stay, Red Sox didnt have a big enough contract on the table and he went to the NYYs. I dont hvae any hard feelings towards him. Yea it would have been nice for him to stay, but if you can make more money somewhere else fine. Sure I dislike when that type of thing happens. The thing with Manny was this. Follow along because not allot of people understand this. Manny signed a 8yr contract with 2 option yrs held by the Red Sox, when he was a free agent. Now in 2005 or 2006 I cant remember he was complaining and said he wanted to leave. The Red Sox put him on waivers and not one team wanted to take him and his $20mil a yr contract. So 2008 rolls around this is the last year of his 8yr $160mil contract. The Red Sox have 2 option yrs now. Manny also changed agents this year his new agent Scot Boras, would not have made any monies if Manny played out this year and the Red Sox picked up the 1st option year for 2009, nor would he of had any earnings if the Red Sox picked up the 2nd option year for 2010. What Manny and his agent Scott Boras wanted was a new contract for 3-4yrs in the $80-100million area. That would be the only way Boras would stand to earn any money off of this. So when the Red Sox didnt feel they needed to negotiate a new contract because they held option years, Manny didnt like it and played cry baby. The last trip to Anahiem he told teammates he wasnt going to Seattle and would be back in Boston to wait for the KC series. This is after pushing the teams player assistant to the ground after he couldnt fill Manny's request to get 16 tickets for a sold out Texas Rangers game the day before the game. Now that players assistant is a retired 65yr old police officer that Manny pushed to the ground, almost twice Mannys age. Then he just started to quit playing, thats what I have a problem with. If it were me I would have stuck him in the minors and let him rot down there. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted October 3, 2008 Super User Posted October 3, 2008 I am on neither side of this, I think greed has hurt the game. My point is Agents ESPECIALLY BORAS and the MANAGNMENT OF THE YANKEES<METS<DODGERS AND RED SOX they made this mess now they are stuck with it As for pushing old men around see BOSTON RED SOX PUMMEL ZIMMERMAN Â DOOHHHH!!!!!!!! ;D Quote
llPa1nll Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I am on neither side of this, I think greed has hurt the game. My point is Agents ESPECIALLY BORAS and the MANAGNMENT OF THE YANKEES<METS<DODGERS AND RED SOX they made this mess now they are stuck with it As for pushing old men around see BOSTON RED SOX PUMMEL ZIMMERMAN DOOHHHH!!!!!!!! ;D Hahahah I still laugh at that when you see Pedro act like a Matador. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 I can't freakin' believe the bo sox. Â The Halos were my pick to win the WS. Â Â Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted October 4, 2008 Super User Posted October 4, 2008 Just scored tix to game 3 tonight @ Miltown, hopefully the Crew lives another day. The question is, which Dave Bush will show up? GO BREWERS!!! Quote
Super User burleytog Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 I hate Los Angeles. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Thanks for the memories Cubbies. Wait till next year! Quote
Super User Muddy Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Since the Philthies eliminated the Met's, and the Cubbies have left the building, I will be rooting for the Dodgers. START BETTING AGAINST THEM NOW, of course I get my ususal 10% for rooting for the team you bet against ;D Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 5, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 5, 2008 I can't believe the Cubbies lost. Quote
Super User Muddy Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Good Pitching will conatin good hitting. These 5 game sets show how pitching is even more important then the next 2 seven game sets they will have to face. Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Looks like the Brew-Crew is done.... Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 5, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Another one bites the dust. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted October 5, 2008 Super User Posted October 5, 2008 Well, at least I got to witness the first Milwaukee playoff win in 26 years. Â There are some definite bright spots for next year, like Gallardo and Parra. Â Hopefully we'll be able to make a run at CC. Â See ya later Sheets. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 6, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 6, 2008 You've got to love the Angles defensive skills. ;D Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 6, 2008 Super User Posted October 6, 2008 Well, at least I got to witness the first Milwaukee playoff win in 26 years. There are some definite bright spots for next year, like Gallardo and Parra. Hopefully we'll be able to make a run at CC. See ya later Sheets. You just don't have the money to sign CC . He's going for the BIG payday and you guys are just like Cleveland------CHEAP. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 6, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 6, 2008 I hope everything is OK with Beckett... :-/ Quote
srv1990 Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Congratulations to the Phillies and Dodgers on advancing to the NLCS. Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 6, 2008 Super User Posted October 6, 2008 I hope everything is OK with Beckett... :-/ Couldn't locate the fastball, I'm kind of worried. Quote
Super User Gone_Phishin Posted October 7, 2008 Super User Posted October 7, 2008 Well, at least I got to witness the first Milwaukee playoff win in 26 years. There are some definite bright spots for next year, like Gallardo and Parra. Hopefully we'll be able to make a run at CC. See ya later Sheets. You just don't have the money to sign CC . He's going for the BIG payday and you guys are just like Cleveland------CHEAP. The new owner in Milwaukee is far from cheap. There is a difference between cheap and small market. Look what the Crew's GM gave up for Sabathia alone: a stud in LaPorta, Brantley, and two arms. He basically went all-in. He jacked our payroll up to almost $100 mil. For a small market team, that's a lot of beans. Cleveland is a different story, as they have monkeys running the ballclub. Â Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 7, 2008 Super User Posted October 7, 2008 Well I love that dirty water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 7, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 7, 2008 NEXT! ;D Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 7, 2008 Super User Posted October 7, 2008 V-Tek saved that game. And Bay is lucky he didn't break his hand when Napoli stepped on it as he was sliding in. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted October 7, 2008 Author Super User Posted October 7, 2008 And Bay is lucky he didn't break his hand when Napoli stepped on it as he was sliding in. I saw that on the replay. Â He's lucky Napoli didn't put his entire weight on his hand. Manny Who? ;D Quote
Super User Tin Posted October 7, 2008 Super User Posted October 7, 2008 And Bay is lucky he didn't break his hand when Napoli stepped on it as he was sliding in. I saw that on the replay. He's lucky Napoli didn't put his entire weight on his hand. Manny Who? ;D Don't say that yet. Knowing our history he will hit the game winning home run in game 7 at Fenway in the WS and begin another 86 year curse. Quote
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