njbasser Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Diesel is just a less refined form of fuel than gasoline. The only reason why i think it is more expensive is because so many huge machines and commercial vehicles use diesel because the engines are simpler and more reliable. I was watching the a show on tv about the Palm Islands in Dubai and it said that the dredging boats that they used to build the islands used an insane amount of diesel (6 gallons/ foot??) Quote
Super User Raul Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 Diesel is getting more expensive because nowdays oil companies can obtain more gasoline per barrel of oil than they used to a few years ago ( better refining technology ) so the ammount of diesel that can be obtained from a barrel of oil diminishes proportionately to the ammount of extra gasoline they obtain from the same barrel, less diesel per barrel of oil ---> more expensive fuel. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted August 15, 2008 Super User Posted August 15, 2008 Diesel is getting more expensive because nowdays oil companies can obtain more gasoline per barrel of oil than they used to a few years ago ( better refining technology ) so the ammount of diesel that can be obtained from a barrel of oil diminishes proportionately to the ammount of extra gasoline they obtain from the same barrel, less diesel per barrel of oil ---> more expensive fuel. Thanks Raul, I didn't know that. You learn something new everyday. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Oil is currently trading down $3.52 @ $111.49. ;D ;D ;D ;D Keep on going down. GO GO GO!! Quote
moby bass Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I've been keeping tabs on it here. http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/ Funny, our gas dropped about 20 cents several weeks ago, when prices started to drop, then hasn't moved since. Also strange how every station in the area has exactly the same price at the same time. Where's the competition? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 15, 2008 Author Super User Posted August 15, 2008 Buy your gas at Walmart, Costco or stations that are competing near them. In the Memphis area, gasoline varies by as much as 40 cents a gallon! We also get up to 30 cents discount from a rewards program at Schnucks, a regional grocery chain. With a little luck, we might break below $3 this month! 8-) Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 I hope your right RW. Around here we never vary more then a nickel. Usually its 2 cents. Quote
moby bass Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 We have grocery stores that give 10 or 20 cents off per gallon up to 30 gallons for every $50.00 you spend on groceries. We frequently get $1 or $2 off every gallon and I buy the whole 30 gal. When price was lower I occasionally got gas free. Of course, many of the groceries are higher priced, you have to watch and shop the deals only. Quote
NaterD Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I wonder how much a station really profits from the sale of gasoline... or are they just hoping to get you in the store and purchase other things, such as Mega Millions tickets! Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 I wonder how much a station really profits from the sale of gasoline... or are they just hoping to get you in the store and purchase other things, such as Mega Millions tickets! I know a guy that owns a 7/11 he is lucky if he makes 6 cents a gallon. The money they make comes from inside. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted August 18, 2008 Super User Posted August 18, 2008 Most retailers who wish to remain competitive are lucky if they can make 10 cents a gallon profit. Quote
Super User Hookemdown. Posted August 18, 2008 Super User Posted August 18, 2008 Gas down to 3.35 That's a .50 cent drop. Quote
the captain Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 So this may be a stupid question, or it may have been answered already, but I still have to ask: Why is deisel so dang high? Isn't it suppose to be like the left overs of Gasoline? If thats the case then why is my dad, who is an owner/operator of a big rig paying just under $5 a gallon? idk either cuz it dont take nearly as much to refine deisel, the only thing i can think is that maybe they make it high cuz they know they can and get away with it cuz all the big rigs need it so they can provide the essential goods from the farm to the store and such. So basically they are just takin advantage of our dependence on oil to get rich quick... Quote
the captain Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Wait i know... everyone get a bicycle and ride it to work this friday... that would basically break the oil companies down because they would lose millions of dollars just in one day...lol I highly doubt that many will do this but... anyone know a way to keep methane a liquid while its in ur gas tank???? its easy to make it however its in a gas form and u must keep it cold to make it a liquid, and if u try to burn it as a gas u will blow it up... however the liquid will burn just like gasoline...so when somebody thinks of a way to keep it cold in the tank(idk how cold but under room temp) then we can move forward with a new source...lol we can even start our own company on resource here...jk Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 18, 2008 BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 18, 2008 Gas finally dipped below $4 a gal this weekend in my area, although many stations are still above it. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 hey RW, what are down too today? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 18, 2008 Author Super User Posted August 18, 2008 Down 97 cents @ $112.82 8-) Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Down 97 cents @ $112.82 8-) Thank you very much Quote
brgbassmaster Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 cheapest i saw it was 3.49 in texas here in new mexico it is 3.63 Quote
Still a Bigbuckifan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 In my part of florida the cheapest I've found is $3.52 Quote
tyrius. Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 What are we at today RW? This website will provide you with all you need to know. http://bloomberg.com/energy WTI spot prices are 112.15 which is down .72. Wholesale gas prices are up 2.23 cents though. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 19, 2008 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2008 Commodity markets are very volatile. We were down overnight to just north of $111, but have turned around throughout the morning session. Currently up $2.88 @ 115.80. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks guys. Good site too. Wish it would have been down 2.88. Oh well I'll wait till tomorrow. ;D Quote
nboucher Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Just skimmed this thread quickly at lunchtime, but it seems to me you guys are forgetting that more than ever the market for oil is international, not just national. To the extent that gas prices in the U.S. are based on oil pricesand the correlation is not an entirely direct onethe skyrocketing demand for oil in Asia is here to stay and will only grow. Free markets in a global economy will mean more short-term volatility in oil prices and permanently higher prices in the U.S. The relationship between supply and demand is becoming much more complicated. Don't forget: oil companies exist not to provide U.S. consumers with the lowest possible gas prices but to return the maximum financial return to shareholders. Which means a lot more global speculation and a rush to meet demandin Asia. Quote
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