jbass Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I'm going to join a local sportsman's club that has trap shoots a couple of times a month. With the advent of no lead shot, they only shoot steel. Now my question is can you shoot steel shot through an older shotgun, let's say circa 1980's to 1990's? I used to shoot trap back in the day when I went to the University of Montana. We had an extra curricular (sp) activity which was a trap and skeet class. I used a Remington 870 pump. I really liked the way it felt and I was looking to purchase a trap model, but if I have to buy a new one so be it. Thanks in advance. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted November 19, 2008 Super User Posted November 19, 2008 Was I asleep or something? Since when can you not shoot lead at the trap/skeet/sporting clays facility? Not being sarcastic, I just had no idea. I hate this state. Quote
jbass Posted November 19, 2008 Author Posted November 19, 2008 Was I asleep or something? Since when can you not shoot lead at the trap/skeet/sporting clays facility? Not being sarcastic, I just had no idea. I hate this state. Bizz don't misunderstand me, the club took this upon themselves to forbid lead, no other governing body required this to happen. The property is owned by the club. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted November 19, 2008 Super User Posted November 19, 2008 Well that just sucks! I wouldnt shoot there. Thats just way too expensive. Specially for trap, which is pretty boring IMO. An 870 from the 80s-90s with a fixed choke will shoot steel no problem. If it has interchangable choke tubes just make sure they are steel safe. If you shoot a couple hundred rounds of steel a week, your barrel and tubes will wear fairly quickly. If its a hundred birds a month, youll probably never notice. My dad and i used to burn 400-1000 rounds between us a week. Despite reloading, that was VERY expensive. I wouldnt have been able to shoot like that with steel, thats for sure. I did shoot a money round of sporting clays with an old dude when i was 15. $50 said I could beat him with steel 6 shot. I did, it was awesome. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted November 19, 2008 Super User Posted November 19, 2008 id not shoot at that club. we shoot 50 and 100 target sets and youll go through 500 rounds easy a meet. even though #6 shot isnt that big with the added charges in the shell to push the load your barrel will be grooved quickly. Quote
Super User MALTESE FALCON Posted November 19, 2008 Super User Posted November 19, 2008 I would contact Remington and talk to their technical people. I think they would have the best information. I haven't shot since my accident. (12 years) I really miss it. Falcon Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Trap is ok. Sporting clays is a whole lot more fun. Quote
Super User flechero Posted November 19, 2008 Super User Posted November 19, 2008 You can't choke steel since it's so hard. So if you are shooting steel, stick with an IC, skeet or skeet II choke. (you can shoot it out of a mod or tighter but it will wear the gun horribly and your patterns will be comical) Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 I agree with flechero, but just thought i'd add that a fixed choke barrel that is tighter than those he mentioned would be fine, just not a tube choked gun. Matter of fact a modified fixed choke 28inch barrel and 6 would probably be a good all around combo. I just think that shooting steel only is such a financial and competitive handicap that I wouldnt even bother. Its like pitching with a fly reel, lol. A suggestion: buy a bunch of high brass 2 3/4, stuff them with lead 8 shot, pretend its steel. Simple solution. ;D Only in California would you have a steel only trap club. Birds are made out of soy and natural dyes. Shells are made out of recycled paper. They sell Patchuli Gun Oil. Do they bless every clays spirit and thank it for its sacrifice? I hope they have spotted owls there. Dead a pair! lol This place sucks donkey. Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Idaho, N. New Mexico are all becoming a real possibility for me. P.S. Flech if im wrong about adding to what you said, let us know. You may know some thing I dont. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 I agree with flechero, but just thought i'd add that a fixed choke barrel that is tighter than those he mentioned would be fine, just not a tube choked gun. Matter of fact a modified fixed choke 28inch barrel and 6 would probably be a good all around combo. I just think that shooting steel only is such a financial and competitive handicap that I wouldnt even bother. Its like pitching with a fly reel, lol. A suggestion: buy a bunch of high brass 2 3/4, stuff them with lead 8 shot, pretend its steel. Simple solution. ;D Only in California would you have a steel only trap club. Birds are made out of soy and natural dyes. Shells are made out of recycled paper. They sell Patchuli Gun Oil. Do they bless every clays spirit and thank it for its sacrifice? I hope they have spotted owls there. Dead a pair! lol This place sucks donkey. Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Idaho, N. New Mexico are all becoming a real possibility for me. P.S. Flech if im wrong about adding to what you said, let us know. You may know some thing I dont. i always shoot full choke. the 16 yard line is a "starter" for most groups. different charges/wads will change the pattern out the barrel. if youre not hand loading id take the time to shoot paper at different distances, you might find one shell works great at 20 yards and under while another load works better back to 27 yards. the OP might look for an aftermarket barrel if hes wants to shoot a lot. Quote
Super User fourbizz Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 Skunked can you explain to me why you shoot trap instead of sporting clays? Ive shot half a dozen rounds of trap and was bored to death. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted November 20, 2008 Super User Posted November 20, 2008 Skunked can you explain to me why you shoot trap instead of sporting clays? Ive shot half a dozen rounds of trap and was bored to death. i think for me its the compitition. when half of the shooters are tossing up perazzi and custom BT-99's and the other half are using the guns these shooters had las year its compairable to a Ranger boat and fishing from the bank. its just what i like. id probably shoot clays more if there was a good place to do so around here and had a good gun for the job. Quote
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