llPa1nll Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I dont know if everyone has heard about this as of yet. This is all over the news up here in New England. Read more about it. Boy, 8, shoots himself to death at Mass. gun show I dont own a gun, I am however an advocate for the 2nd amendment. You can only guess what the gun control people up here are saying. I just wanted to get some people's responses non-political and non-offensive of course because I would like to see this thread stay open. My thoughts on the matter is that its a tragic mishap that a child has been killed. I personally dont think I would allow my children to fire an automatic weapon holding it by themselves, especially at that young of an age. On the other side I think with proper safety training someone that young can safely use and shoot a firearm. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 That's just freaking awful. No comment on guns and gun control, but what a freaking living nightmare it must be to see your child die right in front of you. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 That should be child endangering and someone should go to jail. It's hard to believe that some one would let that child fire a fully automatic weapon. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 I don't think the blame game is going to bring back that little boy, and I don't think it'll prevent more accidents. His father will probably be emotionally tortured for the rest of his life, which probably is punishment enough. Man, that story really gets to me. Nightmare. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 IMO this has nothing to do with guns or gun control. Where are the parents? #1 problem with every accident involving a young kid. Its easy to point a finger, but there isnt anyone to point them too but the parents. The owner should have known a 8yro cant handle that. The parents should have know not to let him shoot it without thier hands on it. I've shot quite a few full autos. They take 100% attention. Especially with kids. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 Most anything you do can be hazardous to ur health or kill ya simply drivin to a store a mile away can end your life or ones u love life is a gamble each and everyday i love guns and own many i know the price thats paid when a accident happens all we can do is try and be more careful ,but no matter how much you know or have seen there is always a chance of a accident Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 all we can do is try and be more careful ,but no matter how much you know or have seen there is always a chance of a accident I agree, seems like the gun industry always gets bashed for accidents big time. Dont here much about luxury deaths though. Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 Tragic to say the least, unfortunately this kind of accidents only provide with ammo to those who use it as an argument to ban/control guns > even though we know that guns on their own don 't kill people. Quote
Fisher of Men Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 IMO this has nothing to do with guns or gun control. quote] Agreed, but unfortunately the anti-gun folks will use this as fuel. I always cringe at ANY negative publicity toward guns. Bad publicity related to guns always equals bad PR to hunting as well. Not good at all!! My heart goes out the family of the little boy. I can't imagine their grief. God be with them all. Quote
key chain bass guy Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Not passing judgement, I just don't understand. I can see teaching a child to shoot a rifle if hunting is a part of your life. What I don't understand is what is the purpose of having an eight year old learn how to fire an Uzi? Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Not passing judgement, I just don't understand. I can see teaching a child to shoot a rifle if hunting is a part of your life. What I don't understand is what is the purpose of having an eight year old learn how to fire an Uzi? Thank you. Quote
Max-in-Mn Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Not passing judgement, I just don't understand. I can see teaching a child to shoot a rifle if hunting is a part of your life. What I don't understand is what is the purpose of having an eight year old learn how to fire an Uzi? Completely agree. In fact, I just said to myself "what kind of bleeping idiot lets their 8yo son shoot a fully auto weapon!?". Maybe that is harsh, but this is the first time I read about this and it is quite upsetting. Quote
Super User Raul Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 Completely agree. In fact, I just said to myself "what kind of bleeping idiot lets their 8yo son shoot a fully auto weapon!?". Well, right there you can see an example. Stoopid is forever. Quote
basser89 Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Tragic indeed! I was brought up around guns. I was first introduced to shooting at a very young age. It was a pellet gun and I was never allowed to use it unless my Dad was with me. I graduated up to a bb gun and when I proved that I was responsible enough with it, I was allowed to use it unsupervised. Eventually, I moved up to a 22 and a 20 gauge, and so on and so on. I can't see any reason why anyone would want to encourage a young kid to handle, let alone shoot an automatic weapon! Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 I don't think the blame game is going to bring back that little boy, and I don't think it'll prevent more accidents. His father will probably be emotionally tortured for the rest of his life, which probably is punishment enough. Man, that story really gets to me. Nightmare. Wrongs have to be righted and the guilty have to pay the price. The child is dead before his time and the people responsible must pay. Quote
baboosicbass08 Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I don't understand why the parents allowed him to shoot a fully automatic gun on his own without anyone else holding it because of his age, but I also don't really think anyone is to blame, besides the parents have to live with the fact that they saw their child shoot himself in the head. Quote
=Matt 5.0= Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 IMO this has nothing to do with guns or gun control. Where are the parents? #1 problem with every accident involving a young kid. Its easy to point a finger, but there isnt anyone to point them too but the parents. The owner should have known a 8yro cant handle that. The parents should have know not to let him shoot it without thier hands on it. I've shot quite a few full autos. They take 100% attention. Especially with kids. I respectfully disagree. Quote
atx_newbie Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole. I'll get way too worked up. I heard this on the radio on my morning commute, and thought I just had to have misunderstood. I thought "No way someone let their 8 year old shoot an Uzi." I mean, I shot my first gun when I was 8, and I own one now. So I've got no problem with guns. But that is too young to shoot a full-auto weapon. Hell, the first time I shot a pistol, at about age 9, the recoil made me drop it. And that was a .22 ruger semi-auto Quote
jax Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 That is horrible for everyone involved. Things happen too fast at times. I can not imagine the guilt that everyone involved must be dealing with at this time. It saddens me to think of what they must be going through. I will keep the family and business owner in my prayers. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 IMO this has nothing to do with guns or gun control. Where are the parents? #1 problem with every accident involving a young kid. Its easy to point a finger, but there isnt anyone to point them too but the parents. The owner should have known a 8yro cant handle that. The parents should have know not to let him shoot it without thier hands on it. I've shot quite a few full autos. They take 100% attention. Especially with kids. I respectfully disagree. Please expand. I'm curious of why. Quote
Valascus Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 IMO this has nothing to do with guns or gun control. Where are the parents? #1 problem with every accident involving a young kid. Its easy to point a finger, but there isnt anyone to point them too but the parents. The owner should have known a 8yro cant handle that. The parents should have know not to let him shoot it without thier hands on it. I've shot quite a few full autos. They take 100% attention. Especially with kids. I respectfully disagree. Please expand. I'm curious of why. I am not trying to step on anyones toes here. Just a respectful reply. I think I see where he is coming from GMAN. I am all for the 2nd amendment. However, did the article say anything about whether this gentleman was licensed to even have the Uzi? Or if the "instructor" was licensed to have, fire, and "give lessons" on how to use the Uzi? Control of hunting rifles, carrying pieces, home protection, antique collectibles, etc., etc., I believe is unnecessary. I understand there are already very, very tight regulations on automatic weapons. It appears to me that they may need to be a bit tighter. The article says it all. Full investigations are being conducted to check whether all parties involved had the proper licensing. I may be wrong, but that COULD be where Matt is coming from. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 Not passing judgement, I just don't understand. I can see teaching a child to shoot a rifle if hunting is a part of your life. What I don't understand is what is the purpose of having an eight year old learn how to fire an Uzi? There is no difference between a Remington 700, Winchester 70, Ruger M77, Ithaca 37, Colt 1911 or an Uzi. Quote
Super User burleytog Posted October 28, 2008 Super User Posted October 28, 2008 It appears to me that they may need to be a bit tighter. Why? Quote
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