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Who watched the game? That lady absolutely butchered the National Anthem..... she should be jailed

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I have been to easily a thousand baseball games in my life, many with my Dad before he died. HE taught me to stand, put your hand over your heart and sing the national anthem with pride. Did it then , still do and I suck as a singer, The song is sung as a tradtion to celbrate our national past time, not for a grammy award. IF she should go to jail, I should get the chair ::)

It happens to be a very difficult song to sing, and she did her best.

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I thought it was horrible and I like Patti Labelle.  The country music singer last night was awesome.

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It's about the game not how good or bad someone sings.

PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!!! 8-)

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It's about the game not how good or bad someone sings.

PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!!! 8-)

I agree normally .....

However, Game 1, with the Backstreet Boys ... that was a disgrace. They tried to put their own spin on it and even changed the wording around a bit. That's a big no no in my book. Just sing the thing like it was intended. It's already PERFECT. No need to put your own spin on it.

Taylor Swift nailed it though last night!!!!!!

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It is actually law to remove your hat and cover your heart during the singing of the National Anthem at all sporting events.

I agree it is a hard song to sing.  I don't mind it sounding bad as long as it's not done on purpose, like Rosanne Barr did several years back.  Now she should have gone to jail.

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It's about the game not how good or bad someone sings.

PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!!! 8-)

I agree normally .....

However, Game 1, with the Backstreet Boys ... that was a disgrace. They tried to put their own spin on it and even changed the wording around a bit. That's a big no no in my book. Just sing the thing like it was intended. It's already PERFECT. No need to put your own spin on it.

Taylor Swift nailed it though last night!!!!!!

I'm sure that's how some people look at Jimi Hedrix's spin on the star spangled banner......But I think it's pretty cool. Changing the words around is a little different though... :-X

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Maybe "changing the words" wasn't the right way to put it.  It's more like they changed the arrangement a bit.  It just didn't sit well with me.  There was no need for it.  They sounded great.  They just needed to sing the song the way it is written.

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It's about the game not how good or bad someone sings.

PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!!! 8-)

I agree normally .....

However, Game 1, with the Backstreet Boys ... that was a disgrace. They tried to put their own spin on it and even changed the wording around a bit. That's a big no no in my book. Just sing the thing like it was intended. It's already PERFECT. No need to put your own spin on it.

Taylor Swift nailed it though last night!!!!!!

I'm sure that's how some people look at Jimi Hedrix's spin on the star spangled banner......But I think it's pretty cool. Changing the words around is a little different though... :-X

As far as I know, Jimi Hendrix' version of the SSB was supposed to be defiant.

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No actually it was inspired when he was in the US Army. On some of his parashute jumps, live rounds were fired, and he stated that is where he got the idea to bend the notes , and play THE Star Spangled Bannner as he did to mimic the falling and parashuting soldiers dropping through live ammunition.

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Sure, that's the inspiration for the musical aspect, but it still had political motivation. link

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That is an opinion, on a site calling itself the Official Hendrix Site

NOT!!!!!!!!!

Jimi gave a number of inteviews and spoke to the SSB. He spoke about Franis Scott Keyes getting inspired by watching FT.Henry under fire, Jimmi was relating to that as another generation of Americans were under fire. He was also feeling the effects of the race riots going on and American National Guards troops being deployed on home soil, which was a somewhat new eperience. Jimmi was doing what a lot of Jazz musicans did at the time they told thier stories with music, not lyrics.

Francis Scott Keyes was a poet so he used words and music.Jimi was a musician so he used notes to capture the moment. Jimis song of out right protest would come a year later in the form of Machine Gun.

That site is not owned by Jimie's dad or the James Family( His mother's name) the only thing official about it is they say it is :-?

I saw Jimi many times, he played under the name Jimi James at first, he was from Seattle. He played in Ike and Tina Turners Band,Little Richards Band and the Isley Brothers. He was about to do a recording session with Miles Davis when he died.

His most popular bands were the Expeirience and Band of Gypsies. He was very non political and while the recording of his greatest studio work ELECTRIC LADY LAND, named after the studio CBS built for hm in NYC, he was under pressure from the Black Panthers to go to an all black band and write songs about the struggle.

Hendrix and Dylan were very much alike, the industry was trying to sell Hendrix as the Phycadelic King and Dylan as the radical poet, both men writing and recording blocks from each other were adamanent that they wrote what was right in front of them, and that included the whole life experience from the times. I witnessed both carrers, and thats what they did. Writing about politics,the music experience itself,drugs and most of all WOMEN!!!!!!!!!

Hendrix wrote about what was infront of him, his life experience and some stuff he passed through before he got his own band, politics was just a small part of that as was his experience with pshcyadelics.

 You are reading stuff that is opinions, I was there. I admit there are times that are hazzy from that era, as I indulged but there are things , mostly to do with music and the NY Music Scene at that time that I lived through,  and really kept up with my favorites, Jimi among them.

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Jimi gave a number of inteviews and spoke to the SSB. He spoke about Franis Scott Keyes getting inspired by watching FT.Henry under fire, Jimmi was relating to that as another generation of Americans were under fire. He was also feeling the effects of the race riots going on and American National Guards troops being deployed on home soil, which was a somewhat new eperience. Jimmi was doing what a lot of Jazz musicans did at the time they told thier stories with music, not lyrics.

That's the political influence I'm talking about... :-?

And that site isn't the only one. For example, Rolling Stone calls his performance "...that legendary version of "The Star-Spangled Banner," which Hendrix pitch-bent from patriotic warhorse into a defiant proclamation"

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I like Patti Labelle.  She is very talented and I understand what she was trying to do, but, she butchered it IMHO.  Was screechy and parts of it sounded like she was making it up, and unsure, as she went along.  Not as bad as Roseanne, but definitely in the bottom.

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If you try to sing with dignity and still butcher because you just cant sing that is one thing. Butchering the song because you are trying to put your own twist on it is another..... Sing it the way it was written you arent going to be able to make it better its perfect the way it is now

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Jimi gave a number of inteviews and spoke to the SSB. He spoke about Franis Scott Keyes getting inspired by watching FT.Henry under fire, Jimmi was relating to that as another generation of Americans were under fire. He was also feeling the effects of the race riots going on and American National Guards troops being deployed on home soil, which was a somewhat new eperience. Jimmi was doing what a lot of Jazz musicans did at the time they told thier stories with music, not lyrics.

That's the political influence I'm talking about... :-?

And that site isn't the only one. For example, Rolling Stone calls his performance "...that legendary version of "The Star-Spangled Banner," which Hendrix pitch-bent from patriotic warhorse into a defiant proclamation"

That is a historical , rather than political . You are reading some inacurate accounts about something that I witnessed. See if you can find the Buckley interview from Aug 69, a few days afterWoodstock where Jimi actually spells it out. Most of those sites, like many others using Musicans who have past, are for someones benifit other than the suirving family members.

Rolling stone is notourius for getting it wrong, artistically. I remeber when they were uspet that Miles Davis was dissing his audience because he was playing with his back turned to them. Miles was actually rebelling against the hype his label was dishing out and was making a statement that the music was more important then he was as a "star" good to see Rolling Stone up on that one!

Let us not forget the  Hendrix expert got in some hot water when the Hard Rock Cafe opened in NY> HE sold them one of Jimi's authentic Strats for 10 G's. It was a beautiful left handed blue strat.

JIMI ONLY PLAYED RIGHT HANDED STARTS, upside down and revesed stringed b/c they only made righty strats in those days.

 I do not know a lot about a lot of things, but I know this era of music as both a listener,fan and I was full time drummer in those days.I lived ,ate and breath music and was their to witness a lot of it.

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If you try to sing with dignity and still butcher because you just cant sing that is one thing. Butchering the song because you are trying to put your own twist on it is another..... Sing it the way it was written you arent going to be able to make it better its perfect the way it is now

She sung it as it was written, posibbly one of the few voices that can hit all the octaves needed. One of the honors for any song writer is to have another artist do thier number and own it thier own way

 I would say, now having heard it, she folllowed the head ( melody) of the song and imporvised some scale climbing there. Whats the big deal?

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"...When it was written then, it was played in a very very beautiful, what they call beautiful state, it's nice and inspiring and your heart throbs and it's like great, I'm American. But now adays when we play it we don't play it the particular way all this greatness that America is supposed to have, but we play the way the era is in America today, the era is slightly static, isn't it?"

-Jimi Hendrix, tv interview after Woodstock

Woodstock was in 1969, RFK and MLK Jr. Were assassinated in 1968, Vietnam was going on, and the Civil Rights movement was in full swing. I think that is the type of "era" he was talking about that motivated his performance.

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I am done aruing with you, you were not there, you only know what is printed and not all of what is printed is correct. Again I was there, i saw all but one NY Performance he did ( Woodstock, did not go) I followed his whole carrer you can think you have this right, at your age I am not going to convince you. Like I said I lived through that era, I was there to witness it. I am done with this

Jimis life was torn apart, his last lieup of Billy Cox on Bas and Mitch Mitchell on drums,was probally his best

The world wanted him to be this Psycho freak on stage, forever. It actually was but a brief minute in his young life

The Panthers and the Left wanted him to embrace politcis and be part of the "revolution" Jimiwas more hipo to the history and the livesd of many African American musicians than any of the people tryint to push him in that direction. The panthers were trying to shake him down and trying to get him to play wiuth all black musicians. Poltics also came and went in his music

Jimi would never be cornered as being any one thing, he was proud of his service in the Army, and he was confused as we all were watching the National Guard turning on American Kids, at home.

This is one of the things that killed him and tourted him.He was all of these things and none of these things,

Look for Jimi in his music and what he wrote. I have a TV inerview where a President is saying " I did not sleep with that woman!"  Makes for good TV but that werent the truth either,

His music was passionate, way beyond it's time and there is no use in trying to explain it to folks who just read about it anyway 8-)

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Just because I wasn't there doesn't mean I can't be knowledgeable about it. How does anyone know about Julius Caeser? No one was alive during his time but by all means there are experts that know almost everything about him...

You yourself admitted in two different ways that Jimi was influenced by the state of America during his time. And it is a historical fact that the SSB performance was "controversial" at least. He was asked about it in interviews and it was seen by some (particularly those in the armed services) as disrespectful (and I have heard this from people who WERE alive at the time)

From the interview it is pretty clear that he did the song as a reflection of the changing and turbulent "era" in the country's history. I'm not saying that is bad, I'm just saying he had motivations for playing it and given the context it's pretty easy to see why. I don't think he was taking sides, but rather summarizing the time.

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If you try to sing with dignity and still butcher because you just cant sing that is one thing. Butchering the song because you are trying to put your own twist on it is another..... Sing it the way it was written you arent going to be able to make it better its perfect the way it is now

She sung it as it was written, posibbly one of the few voices that can hit all the octaves needed. One of the honors for any song writer is to have another artist do thier number and own it thier own way

I would say, now having heard it, she folllowed the head ( melody) of the song and imporvised some scale climbing there. Whats the big deal?

She sang it the way it was written? You obviously werent even paying attention.... She didnt even get all the words right ::)  She added words.... it was IMHO a disgrace to the honor of the thousands of men and women that have given their lives fighting for our freedom.....however, like I said thats my opinion...... you are allowed to have a different one.

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Its pretty normal for a jazz or R&B performer to add their own twist to a commonly known melody. Look up B éla Fleck and listen to his version of The Star Spangled Banner played on an electric banjo. Or Jaco Pastoria's version of America, played on the bass.

I can accept that some may not like changes to it, and take a purist stance, but to call it a "disgrace to the honor of the thousands of men and women that have given their lives fighting for our freedom" really is hyperbole. Francis Scott Key's poem was set to a British pub song, and 75% of it was cut out and made into our National Anthem. I wonder if he's ticked that 3/4 of his heartfelt outpouring was canned.

Music is a personal and subjective artform, and those men and woman that fought and/or died for our freedom, did so for our freedom of expression and our freedom to have an opinion about it. So, you don't like it, big deal. Throw her in jail. I don't like your opinion of it, throw you in jail. Now that sounds absurd, doesn't it? ;D

That said, I thought it more of a unnecessary display of her range, and didn't speak to me as anything other than a vocal athlete singing. The man that sang God Bless America at the 7th inning stretch made a much more heartfelt connection. My 9 year old son thought she sounded like a donkey. I told him that's what I thought about the Kenny Chesney album he's so fond of, LOL.

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If you try to sing with dignity and still butcher because you just cant sing that is one thing. Butchering the song because you are trying to put your own twist on it is another..... Sing it the way it was written you arent going to be able to make it better its perfect the way it is now

She sung it as it was written, posibbly one of the few voices that can hit all the octaves needed. One of the honors for any song writer is to have another artist do thier number and own it thier own way

I would say, now having heard it, she folllowed the head ( melody) of the song and imporvised some scale climbing there. Whats the big deal?

She sang it the way it was written? You obviously werent even paying attention.... She didnt even get all the words right ::) She added words.... it was IMHO a disgrace to the honor of the thousands of men and women that have given their lives fighting for our freedom.....however, like I said thats my opinion...... you are allowed to have a different one.

Hey Mr.Marshall read what I wrote: I said " She followoed the melody, and used her large range= the ability to hit many octaves. ' MUSICALLY: SHE SANG IT AS WRITTEN, she improvised the structure of the song, one of her artisitic trademarks is her large range: she sings in many octaves.Each Artist , sings it thier way; they are not juke boxes that swallow quarters and spit a song out the same way 50 times a day.

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