GitRDoneIke23 Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 I just dropped off my Jeep at the exhaust shop. I'll pick it up tomorrow, and hopefully pass inspections. If all goes well I'll have it legal by the end of tomorrow. -Ike Quote
frogtog Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 New law in NC, we have to have vehicle inspected and then carry a card to the license plate agency to get our tags, What you think about that. Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted October 15, 2008 Super User Posted October 15, 2008 More government intervention. We have always had inspections but are not required to carry proof to get a tag unless the vehicle had failed a test earlier. Quote
tipptruck1 Posted October 15, 2008 Posted October 15, 2008 What are the emmison test you guys speak of? ;D Here in WI cops don't even check if your running a cat or not. ALso If I ever wanted to do a emmison test I would have no clue were to go. Quote
GitRDoneIke23 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 What are the emmison test you guys speak of? ;D Here in WI cops don't even check if your running a cat or not. ALso If I ever wanted to do a emmison test I would have no clue were to go. The cops don't check for cats or mufflers when they pull ya over or nothin. Just they guy who does the state inspection does, just to make sure you're doing whatever some big wig EPA dillweed says you're suppossed to. On my buddy's truck he just got a clamp on muffler and cat, and puts it on just for inspection. The other 364 days a year he's got a straight pipe! I'll be takin it in today. Wish me luck! -Ike Quote
Fisher of Men Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 More government intervention. We have always had inspections but are not required to carry proof to get a tag unless the vehicle had failed a test earlier. Get used to it. More's coming! Quote
tyrius. Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 just to make sure you're doing whatever some big wig EPA dillweed says you're suppossed to. On my buddy's truck he just got a clamp on muffler and cat, and puts it on just for inspection. The other 364 days a year he's got a straight pipe! Never really understood this line of thinking from someone who enjoys outdoor activities. Shouldn't fishermen (outdoorsmen in general) want to protect the environment that they enjoy? Guess I'm just weird. :-/ Quote
GitRDoneIke23 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 just to make sure you're doing whatever some big wig EPA dillweed says you're suppossed to. On my buddy's truck he just got a clamp on muffler and cat, and puts it on just for inspection. The other 364 days a year he's got a straight pipe! Never really understood this line of thinking from someone who enjoys outdoor activities. Shouldn't fishermen (outdoorsmen in general) want to protect the environment that they enjoy? Guess I'm just weird. :-/ Oh, I'm all for conserving our enviroment and all that. It's just when it gets all out of hand!! Ever wonder why gas prices are where they're at?? You guessed it envriomentalists!! Same thing with Diesel Fuel!! enviromentasts just get in the way of everything!! It's all a bunch of bull corn! *sorry if I offended anyone* **Just my opinion** -Ike Quote
tyrius. Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Oh, I'm all for conserving our enviroment and all that. It's just when it gets all out of hand!! A catalytic converter converts (shocking huh?) the REALLY bad exhaust fumes into not so bad ones. Acid rain is directly attributable to nitrogen oxides in the air which without a catalytic converter is emitted from your exhaust. Acid rain is not so good for lakes, streams, etc and smog is not so good for urban areas. How is a catalytic converter "out of hand"? Because you can't have your exhaust sound super loud? Ever wonder why gas prices are where they're at?? You guessed it envriomentalists!! Same thing with Diesel Fuel!! enviromentasts just get in the way of everything!! It's all a bunch of bull corn! Sure I did, but instead of holding onto an uninformed opinion I researched the issue. Environmentalists have little to do with the current fuel prices (even when they were much higher). Quote
Troutfisher Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 More government intervention. We have always had inspections but are not required to carry proof to get a tag unless the vehicle had failed a test earlier. Get used to it. More's coming! You're right there. Quote
Jake P Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 What are the emmison test you guys speak of? ;D Here in WI cops don't even check if your running a cat or not. ALso If I ever wanted to do a emmison test I would have no clue were to go. The cops don't check for cats or mufflers when they pull ya over or nothin. Just they guy who does the state inspection does, just to make sure you're doing whatever some big wig EPA dillweed says you're suppossed to. On my buddy's truck he just got a clamp on muffler and cat, and puts it on just for inspection. The other 364 days a year he's got a straight pipe! I'll be takin it in today. Wish me luck! -Ike I dont see why people say they do this, it doesnt work. If you do not have cats it will not pass emmissions. If you have a "clamp on" cat it still will only be "clamped" on and nto securely mounted. The testing will show dilution or the test will last for 5 seconds and it will fail almost instantly. There is no way to get around having no cat im pretty sure. I do state inspectiions and it has never worked not one single time in my experiences. Im not saying its not possible but i have done thousands of inspections and it has never worked. I can understand not having cats if your dragging but your every day driver i think should have them, it doesnt make THAT much of a difference IMO. Just my 02 cents . Quote
Jake P Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 I just dropped off my Jeep at the exhaust shop. I'll pick it up tomorrow, and hopefully pass inspections. If all goes well I'll have it legal by the end of tomorrow. -Ike Why would it not pass? If you ordered the Delta flow its just the muffler and pipe(s). You have nothing to worry about. Quote
Pencil Pusher Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Jake P, You must have been working 24 hours a day for the last month (since you were certified to do inspections) in order to do "thousands of inspections). Quote
GitRDoneIke23 Posted October 18, 2008 Author Posted October 18, 2008 Oh, I'm all for conserving our enviroment and all that. It's just when it gets all out of hand!! A catalytic converter converts (shocking huh?) the REALLY bad exhaust fumes into not so bad ones. Acid rain is directly attributable to nitrogen oxides in the air which without a catalytic converter is emitted from your exhaust. Acid rain is not so good for lakes, streams, etc and smog is not so good for urban areas. How is a catalytic converter "out of hand"? Because you can't have your exhaust sound super loud? Ever wonder why gas prices are where they're at?? You guessed it envriomentalists!! Same thing with Diesel Fuel!! enviromentasts just get in the way of everything!! It's all a bunch of bull corn! Sure I did, but instead of holding onto an uninformed opinion I researched the issue. Environmentalists have little to do with the current fuel prices (even when they were much higher). I don't want to start some major argument or have anything get out of hand.......... But, I personally know about 20 people in the oil business. From people making multi million dollar descisions everyday, to refinery workers. I've talked to them and they said the main reason gas is so high is, EPA regulations, and Goverment taxes. And in answer to your question, yes I do like my truck EXTRA LOUD!! No disrespect or offense intended. -Ike Quote
Jake P Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 Jake P, You must have been working 24 hours a day for the last month (since you were certified to do inspections) in order to do "thousands of inspections). Thousands was an expression meaning alot. Next time I will be sure to say millions that way it is understood correctly. good luck on your ride Ike, I know its fun fixing it up and cruising around on the weekends. When i got my first vehicle (chevy blazer) i would put in $50 in gas a weekend and burn it all just cruising around with friends. Now I wish I could snap my fingers and magically be wherever I need to be lol. Quote
tyrius. Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 But, I personally know about 20 people in the oil business. From people making multi million dollar descisions everyday, to refinery workers. I've talked to them and they said the main reason gas is so high is, EPA regulations, and Goverment taxes. No offense taken. I have a thick skin for discussion on message boards and usually end up getting them locked. Hopefully, we can avoid that one. Here's a question to ask your 20 friends in the oil biz. "What EPA regulations or gov't taxes changed to cause the price of gas to rise so quickly? (to $4 a gallon) And conversely what changed to cause them to drop back down to under $3 a gallon?" The answer to both of those questions is nothing. The thing that changed was worldwide demand coupled with the supply. There is no question that gas taxes are expensive, but they aren't responsible for the latest run up in prices. Quote
GitRDoneIke23 Posted October 21, 2008 Author Posted October 21, 2008 But, I personally know about 20 people in the oil business. From people making multi million dollar descisions everyday, to refinery workers. I've talked to them and they said the main reason gas is so high is, EPA regulations, and Goverment taxes. No offense taken. I have a thick skin for discussion on message boards and usually end up getting them locked. Hopefully, we can avoid that one. Here's a question to ask your 20 friends in the oil biz. "What EPA regulations or gov't taxes changed to cause the price of gas to rise so quickly? (to $4 a gallon) And conversely what changed to cause them to drop back down to under $3 a gallon?" The answer to both of those questions is nothing. The thing that changed was worldwide demand coupled with the supply. There is no question that gas taxes are expensive, but they aren't responsible for the latest run up in prices. I admit they (EPA/gov.) arent responsible for the sudden changes, the reason for the changes, like you said are do to the market. However, they (my friends) said the reason for the high prices period, is EPA/gov taxes. But hey, there ain't nothin we can do about it. The prices are high, and I'm pretty sure they're gonna stay that way!!! -Ike Quote
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